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Will We Never Return to the Moon?
July 10, 2004 | Robert Morley

Posted on 07/10/2004 2:04:56 PM PDT by frithguild

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1 posted on 07/10/2004 2:04:57 PM PDT by frithguild
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To: frithguild

Interesting post!


2 posted on 07/10/2004 2:06:37 PM PDT by neutrino (Hermes: God of trade, thieves, and commerce.)
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To: frithguild

The Senate never ratified the Moon Treaty, but the 1967 Treaty did get approval. The Moon Treaty was worse, but the 1967 Treaty was bad enough. Amazing that so many think the Moon Treaty is in force.


3 posted on 07/10/2004 2:08:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: F14 Pilot; Starwind; Light Speed; Physicist; Alamo-Girl; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; ALOHA RONNIE

Ping


4 posted on 07/10/2004 2:10:09 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Communism is a mental illness. Historical amnesia is its prerequisite.)
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To: RightWhale

Well, the essay still needs work then! Thanks.


5 posted on 07/10/2004 2:10:31 PM PDT by frithguild ("W" is the Black Ice President - underestimated until the left completely loses traction.)
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To: frithguild

There's nothing wrong with the essay that an alarm clock wouldn't fix.


6 posted on 07/10/2004 2:16:14 PM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: frithguild
You probably have the website address for the President's Commission on Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy AKA The President's Commission on Moon, Mars, and Beyond. http://www.moontomars.org/ Here it is anyway. Note--property rights received mention in the report.
7 posted on 07/10/2004 2:19:46 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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Amazing that so many think the Moon Treaty is in force.

Amazing also that this administration has caved in over the International Court on the only thing keeping any of us from being prosecuted and tried by an International Kangaroo Court comprised of Lord Haw Haws and Michael Moores....

It is time for a REALLY bold reassertion of national sovereignty.

8 posted on 07/10/2004 2:20:13 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Communism is a mental illness. Historical amnesia is its prerequisite.)
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It's pretty obvious how things are going. I just wonder why we are being kept from developing outer space. The socialists know quite well that private property rights or lack thereof is the only reason private industry is still missing from outer space, and they know that gov't will never develop outer space. So it is clear that we are being prevented from developing outer space. Why?


9 posted on 07/10/2004 2:25:13 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: frithguild
Be careful, The moon is a harsh mistress

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

10 posted on 07/10/2004 2:26:24 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: frithguild

Not until they have a Starbucks.


11 posted on 07/10/2004 2:26:32 PM PDT by AmishDude
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The present $10,000 per pound cost for exporting materials from the earth’s surface obviously inhibits immediate large-scale lunar activities.

I already look at the $10,000/lb. to LEO number as an anachronism harking back to the big government era of space exploration. With new, private means of getting into space, the old era is rapidly coming to a close.

We are starting to see a small shift in regards to space to stop thinking about it as a playground for government and scientists only.

It is starting to be viewed as a place for commercial development, human settlement and the occasional exploration.

We should see this shift occur gradually as more people realize that private space development is the way to go and government activity for propaganda and exploration only was a historical dead end.

12 posted on 07/10/2004 2:30:01 PM PDT by Brett66 (www.scifiartposters.com)
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China is on a mad dash to get to the Moon ... why?

Energy.

Whoever developes the Moon first will control the Earth.


13 posted on 07/10/2004 2:37:55 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: frithguild

"Oh, you're a riot Alice. A regular riot. I hope they like that joke on the moon 'cause that's where you're goin!!!"

 

 

14 posted on 07/10/2004 2:47:10 PM PDT by Fintan (Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car.)
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To: frithguild

Back when the One Small Step quote was made, it was interpreted to be "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." Only later were we told that is was actually "for a man" due to radio interference obscuring the "a." Personally, having heard this replayed numeerous times, I don't think there was any interference, merely revisionists trying to cover up the mistake that Armstrong made during the excitement of the moment.


15 posted on 07/10/2004 2:54:22 PM PDT by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: RightWhale
The socialists know quite well that private property rights or lack thereof is the only reason private industry is still missing from outer space,

Would you lay out for us a profitable outer space operation private industry is missing out on?

16 posted on 07/10/2004 3:15:49 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: frithguild
I vividly remember watching Neil Armstrong stepping onto the surface of the moon. It was about 12:05 Eastern time and the next morning my entire fourth grade classroom had been decorated in an Apollo theme, with “A SMALL STEP FOR A MAN, A GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND” in block letters carefully placed above the chalk board

Was there year-round school anywhere in the US in 1969? Because the landing was on July 20. And...July 20 was a SATURDAY that year. Methinks this gent is in the early stages of Alzheimer's.

17 posted on 07/10/2004 3:17:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: frithguild
To go back to the moon, you have to go through the cheese lobby.

Think of the competition should the moon be mined for its cheese. ;-)

18 posted on 07/10/2004 3:38:19 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't confuse disagreement with argumentation.)
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To: Paul Ross

It would be wonderful if this administration could
assert national sovereignty through a space program
that captivates and inspires Americans just as the
Mercury,Gemini and Apollo programs did decades earlier.
Unfortunately I don't think so.
Go USA!


19 posted on 07/10/2004 3:55:35 PM PDT by moonlite (Moonlite)
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To: Bobibutu
Whoever developes the Moon first will control the Earth.

In the Heinlein science fiction novel The Moon is a Harsh Mistress there is a terrible scenario where large rocks (asteroid size) are launched from the moon against the earth. The impact is equivalent to large nuclear weapons. There would be no way to stop such an attack.

20 posted on 07/10/2004 4:11:43 PM PDT by LibKill (Happy Birthday America! I love you.)
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