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Bates College Professor: Bush Has "No character at All"
The Lewiston Sun-Journal ^ | July 11, 2004 | Steve Hochstadt

Posted on 07/11/2004 5:24:07 PM PDT by bogeybob

Bush vs. Kerry Judging the candidates' strength of character

Sunday, July 11,2004

When I was 21 years old, a college senior in 1969, I participated in my only lottery. I'm not a gambler, but my life was at stake. So were the lives of all American young men born between 1944 and 1950, as our birthdays were picked one by one to determine our order in the military draft. That moment in American history was the hardest test my generation took. Our answers have been judged for the rest of our lives.

My friends made difficult choices. Some quit college and signed up for the Marines. As places in the Reserves rapidly disappeared, one of my classmates joined just before the lottery. His birthday was then picked as number 2. Others who did the same thing got high lottery numbers, and wished they had waited. Men who opposed the war declared themselves conscientious objectors, an arduous test of both character and faith. A few moved to Canada, giving up connections with family and friends to avoid fighting in Vietnam. Some made themselves into targets of government harassment by publicly protesting the war.

I did nothing. I had no idea what I would do if my number was called. My birthday, Aug. 30, was pulled as number 333, and I was safe from the biggest killer of my generation. I discovered something about my own character: I wait to see what comes, rather than making elaborate preparations against the unknown.

I was lucky. I didn't have to cheat on that test in order to pass. Many did. Strong men with football injuries visited friendly doctors to get medical deferments. Others gambled with their health by losing so much weight that they failed the induction physical. I did not believe then that avoiding Vietnam by such means was an immoral act, and I haven't changed my mind. I have learned since then, though, how unfair the draft was - from beginning to end, as children of the middle class like me allowed the children of poor families to go in our places.

In the late stages of the Vietnam War, there were no easy alternatives. We were young and scared. We all had friends who came home in boxes. Our choices still resonate today. If this election is partly about military character, then the Vietnam era choices of our presidential candidates, and what they say about them now, reveal the starkest contrasts between George Bush and John Kerry.

Kerry's Vietnam service is a major element of his political self-promotion. He led men into battle and saved some lives by risking his own. He saw enough of the Vietnam War to convince him that the whole enterprise was wrong for America. When he returned to the United States, he joined with other veterans to do a very unpopular thing: he openly protested the war.

Being an antiwar protester in the early 1970s meant alienating family, losing friends, risking one's career, braving arrest and having one's patriotism questioned. Whatever we think of the correctness of such protest, it meant standing up for one's beliefs. Founding Vietnam Veterans Against the War took courage. Kerry demonstrated military character.

George Bush's Vietnam era activities could not have been more different. Even though he got a lower grade on the qualifying exam than many previous applicants, he was placed by political and family friends into the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, the year of the Tet offensive. That's how affirmative action worked in wartime, putting Bush in the place of another Texan with better military qualifications.

But I don't fault him for that. Many good men used every resource to avoid the scariest fate we could imagine. When my number came up as 333, I was not thinking of my country or of the other man who might have to serve because I didn't. I thought about how happy I was that I had dodged those bullets.

The next chapter of George Bush's life is, in my opinion, the key to his military character. By joining the National Guard, he made a commitment to a job. But while supposedly serving in Texas and Alabama, he disappeared so effectively that nobody can remember him doing anything of significance. Knowing that he was politically untouchable, he abandoned the men he served with. George Bush ignored his military responsibilities, to them and to his country.

Beyond toughness and courage and strength, military character is founded on duty. Although he won't admit it, Bush did not do the military duty for which he had volunteered, for which people had pulled strings, that got him out of Vietnam.

Bush made other choices about what to do in the years after college, 1968-1973. The public discussion of the president's past should focus more attention on those choices. What exactly did George Bush do every day in those years when he served in the Air National Guard? No person has come forward to say that they worked with George Bush on a daily basis, or even that they knew what he was doing. From his years at Yale through his first years in business world, George Bush accomplished little because he attempted little. When the United States was at war, Bush was a privileged goof-off.

Maybe this was the folly and the self-interest of youth. We can forgive people for ethical lapses and personal irresponsibility when they recognize their faults and change their ways. But Bush is not willing to be honest with us about his military service. I would bet that everyone in my generation knows exactly what they were doing in those years of Vietnam and Watergate. Bush pretends to remember very little.

But now Bush has changed his mind. His campaign ads attacking Kerry's patriotism because he protested the war show that Bush would like us to believe that he has military character. George Bush hid from danger as a young man, but now appears in flight gear on the USS Abraham Lincoln because he wants us to see him as a soldier for our country.

I don't know what it means to save a man's life, because I have never seen men killed. I don't know what to think about Kerry throwing away his medals, because I never got a medal. I don't know how much courage it took to ask combat veterans to protest the war in which they had just risked their lives. I do know that all those choices were difficult, and that each defines military character.

When he was young, George Bush shirked his responsibilities. He skipped through Yale and then disappeared for years. He avoided military service from inside the military. Now he continues to shirk his responsibility for a military that he commands. Bush poses in uniform, while his campaign ads attack the patriotism of men who served under fire. In the biggest military command scandal of this generation, at the Abu Ghraib prison, Bush blames "a few American troops who dishonored our country."

When the buck comes near, Bush turns his back.

AWOL's should not dress up as soldiers. War avoiders should not criticize the patriotism of war heroes or resisters. Shirking should not be part of a president's resume. I don't like hypocrites. I can't trust someone who skated through life on his family's influence, and then denies it. My generation faced tough choices. Some died for those choices. Some, like me, got lucky. Some changed their minds about the war, like Kerry. Many still carry their wounds. None of us respect those who went into hiding when things got tough, only to reappear as born-again patriots. That's not military character; that's not presidential character; that's no character at all.

Steve Hochstadt teaches history at Bates College.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Maine; US: Texas
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1 posted on 07/11/2004 5:24:09 PM PDT by bogeybob
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To: bogeybob

I'll bet this guy really came down hard on Clinton. heh heh heh...

not a chance


2 posted on 07/11/2004 5:25:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

He must mean that Bush isn't a character at all.


3 posted on 07/11/2004 5:28:14 PM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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To: bogeybob

Another idiot traitor and fan of Michael Moron and Hanoi John.


4 posted on 07/11/2004 5:28:23 PM PDT by johnfl61
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To: bogeybob

Tell the truth. You really found this at one of the Indymedia sewers, didn't you?

Not an atoms worth of difference.


5 posted on 07/11/2004 5:28:31 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. )
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To: DoughtyOne

What is really pathetic is hearing all of those who yelled "baby killer" now singing the praises of a man who stated that he committed atrocities.


6 posted on 07/11/2004 5:30:04 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Didn't your father tell you that unnecessary excerpting will make you go blind?)
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To: bogeybob
The author teaches history? Hope he does that with a tad more accuracy than this writing.
7 posted on 07/11/2004 5:30:53 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: DoughtyOne

shochsta@bates.edu

Enjoy...let this leftist looney know what you think about his article...

G


8 posted on 07/11/2004 5:30:59 PM PDT by GRRRRR (Love America? Vote Republican--Flush the Johns!!)
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To: Paul Atreides

I agree.


9 posted on 07/11/2004 5:32:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: bogeybob
"Steve Hochstadt teaches history at Bates College

that is the saddest statement in the article.
A history teacher who cannot get facts straight and promotes 'paper-cut Kerry' as a hero- when the men he served with have gone to great lenghts to tell the public that he is unfit to server as commander-in-chief

10 posted on 07/11/2004 5:34:40 PM PDT by Mr. K (`,,`,,this is like liberal logic,,`,,`))
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To: bogeybob
This writer condemns Bush for his guard duty and knows nothing about the nature of the National Guard. What a hypocrite and typical round mouth Democrat. My lottery number was 30 for 1972 and I chose to go into the USAF for four years and ended up spending nine. The writers premise is flawed and biased but since when did that effect what liberals and lefties believe?
11 posted on 07/11/2004 5:35:13 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (In memory of S/Sgt. Segundo "Dean" Baldanado, Albuquerque, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: bogeybob
Kerry's Vietnam service is a major element of his political self-promotion.

Kerry volunteered only after his request for a deferment was denied. His first move was to escape from the military.

The author of this dribble is intellectually dishonest.

12 posted on 07/11/2004 5:35:37 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: bogeybob

Another member of academe who didn't notice when the Bush-was-AWOL non-story was debunked.


13 posted on 07/11/2004 5:36:15 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: bogeybob
Bates College Professor: Bush Has "No character at All

Oh yeah..well at least he's safe to have around yer kids.


14 posted on 07/11/2004 5:36:21 PM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: GRRRRR

Thanks Grrrr....


15 posted on 07/11/2004 5:36:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

You got THAT right! He probably still loves Bubba.


16 posted on 07/11/2004 5:37:37 PM PDT by EggsAckley (You can't be pro small business and pro trial lawyer at the same time! ** George W. Bush)
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To: EggsAckley

Not surprising that a guy with the last name Bates would love Bubba.


17 posted on 07/11/2004 5:39:52 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Didn't your father tell you that unnecessary excerpting will make you go blind?)
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To: bogeybob

Maybe the good perfesser would like to strap on a temperamental airplane with a not-so-great safety record like the F-102 and take a ride at Mach 1.5


18 posted on 07/11/2004 5:39:58 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: bogeybob

For a fleeting moment I thought this was from Lewiston, Idaho, but I see it's Lewiston, Maine. Whew!

---I don't like hypocrites.---

Self hatred'll kill you.


19 posted on 07/11/2004 5:42:49 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: bogeybob
I was lucky. I didn't have to cheat on that test in order to pass. Many did. Strong men with football injuries visited friendly doctors to get medical deferments. Others gambled with their health by losing so much weight that they failed the induction physical. I did not believe then that avoiding Vietnam by such means was an immoral act...

...and you sit there and lecture Dubya on his character.

You, Dr. Hochstadt, are a piece of work.

20 posted on 07/11/2004 5:43:11 PM PDT by RichInOC (Dubya spent more time in uniform than Bill Clinton. Heck, Riddick Bowe was in longer than Bubba.)
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To: bogeybob
Long before Bush ran for President he told a friend, "When I was alone in the cockpit on the runway at Ellington Field in that F-102 and lit up the afterburner, I didn't feel like I "got out" of anything."

Bush's National Guard service was honorable and dangerous. He didn't try to get out of it by exaggerating injuries.

21 posted on 07/11/2004 5:43:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: bogeybob
Kerry has no patriotism to question. He's not a war hero either, and from everything I've read and everything my dad(who was in a recon unit) told me, 4 of his 5 medals are cheap(Bronze Star is the only one that looks legit).
22 posted on 07/11/2004 5:44:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("With the Great White Buffalo, he's gonna make a final stand" - Ted Nugent)
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To: bogeybob

What an audacious pantload of unmitigated crap!

This communist fool needs to spend some time with his nose buried in a dictionary reading . . . and understanding . . . the definition of "Character".

The problem is that he doesn't have the vaguest comprehension of the very thing hew wrote this article about.


23 posted on 07/11/2004 5:45:53 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: bogeybob
Hate to disabuse him of his phony statistics.......but about 55,000 people die in automobile accidents EVERY year.

Doubtful the 58,000 deaths over all those VN war years qualifies for the biggest killer of his generation.

24 posted on 07/11/2004 5:52:31 PM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: bogeybob

What a disgraceful person this author is.

Shame


25 posted on 07/11/2004 5:52:38 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: DoughtyOne

No problem old friend...can you believe we're going into another election in a few months?? Seems like only yesterday the old Prodigy WW board was getting censored again...

This election, this year will be, perhaps, the most important election that this country has had in a century? Not since Lincoln and the onset of the Civil War, do I think this country has been so divided.

The reason for the division is simple. The "politics of personal destruction" that BILL and HILLARY Clinton initiated in their ill-fated eight years in the White House.

Those two have given the left permission to say and do anything they want with NO TRUTH DETECTION by the liberal media. This is the TRUE CLINTON Legacy, the filthy liberals can say anything and get away with it. The Woopie Filth-Fest Fundraiser the other night is PROOF, not a single "media source" has really brought out what was said. The Chicago-Tribune IGNORED IT COMPLETELY!!

God Help USA!!


26 posted on 07/11/2004 5:56:55 PM PDT by GRRRRR (Love America? Vote Republican--Flush the Johns!!)
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To: DustyMoment
What an audacious pantload of unmitigated crap!

This guy's so full of shiite, when he wears his peace-necklace, people pull on it to flush the stench.

FMCDH(BITS)

27 posted on 07/11/2004 5:57:05 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: savedbygrace
The author of this dribble is intellectually dishonest.

The author of this dribble is chickenshit. He even admits being a coward... and then feels he has the "right" to criticize the commander-in-chief!

28 posted on 07/11/2004 5:59:11 PM PDT by pageonetoo (Rights, what Rights'. You're kidding, right? This is Amerika!)
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To: All
Being an antiwar protester in the early 1970s meant alienating family, losing friends, risking one's career, braving arrest and having one's patriotism questioned.

Or launching a career as politician and gigolo.

30 posted on 07/11/2004 6:06:02 PM PDT by dighton
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To: GRRRRR

I was thinking of the many times that Grrrrr gave me a smile clear back on the Prodigy Whitewater Bulletin Board. It's been around twelve years since we began having fun at the lefties expense in public. The world has changed. I wish I could say in all ways for the better.

Your assessment of the Clinton legacy is accurate. I was just thinking this morning how sKerry's sKerrier half would contrast with the current wicked witch of the West, if John were elected.

I'd imagine we'll be seeing those stripped socks curl up under the house that lands on her this fall.

To that end friend...


D1


31 posted on 07/11/2004 6:06:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Floyd R Turbo

hahahahhahahah


32 posted on 07/11/2004 6:07:44 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: Floyd R Turbo

I think Hogswarts needs this guy back.


33 posted on 07/11/2004 6:12:27 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: Floyd R Turbo
Hochstadt, a board member of the Maine Holocaust Human Rights Center, wrote the script for an Emmy-nominated video, "Maine Survivors Remember the Holocaust." The author of "Mobility and Modernity: Migration in Germany, 1820–1989" (The University of Michigan, 1999), Hochstadt also has a forthcoming collection of Holocaust documents for students in courses like his own. His long-term research project concerns European Jewish refugees in Shanghai. Hochstadt's grandparents were among those who fled Vienna to Shanghai.

Interesting. This fellow teaches about the Holocaust. Then he disses the one friend Israel has at this time, Bush. Go figure.

I wonder if he would have supported Hitler too?

34 posted on 07/11/2004 6:13:17 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel eonomy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: cyncooper

Prostitutes and lawyers have been supplanted by journalists and (sadly, an increasing majority of) educators. And, in this case - a combination of the two.

Maine should change the signs which greet visitors to the state. Currently they read: The Way Life Should Be.

Southern Maine in particular has become the California of the east coast and I'm fed up enough that I'll be moving north, soon.


35 posted on 07/11/2004 6:17:30 PM PDT by Sid Knows Decency
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To: Mogger

WHO in the heck flees Vienna to go to SHANGHAI??? Maybe they didn't read their ticket closely enough???

G


36 posted on 07/11/2004 6:17:51 PM PDT by GRRRRR (Love America? Vote Republican--Flush the Johns!!)
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To: Tax Government
Hochstadt, Steve

Professor

207-786-6071

Pettengill Hall, Room 121

shochsta@bates.edu

I teach modern European history. Just as students may change their major interests during a college career, I have shifted my focus for teaching and research over the 20 years I have been at Bates. I arrived here in 1979 as a social and economic historian of modern Europe, still working on my dissertation about migration in Germany. Just last year that project was finally completed as a book, Mobility and Modernity: Migration in Germany 1820-1989, published by the University of Michigan Press.

Over the past dozen years I have become consumed by a new interest, the history of the Holocaust. I began by giving historical advice to a local group who was interviewing survivors in Maine. I interviewed my grandmother, who had fled from Vienna to Shanghai. These modest beginnings grew into major commitments. I have been on the board of directors of the Holocaust Human Rights Center of Maine since 1993. I have now interviewed over 100 Jews who were refugees to Shanghai, spending the war there under Japanese occupation, but surviving, unlike their relatives who could not leave Europe. To see more go to: bates.edu/Library/aboutladd/departments/special/shanghai.shtml. This is my major research project for the foreseeable future. My teaching has shifted, too, as I now offer a course on the Holocaust every other year.

The freedom to pursue my changing intellectual interests and to communicate them to students are continuing wonders for me as a member of the Bates faculty.

Classes:

 

37 posted on 07/11/2004 6:20:06 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel eonomy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Sid Knows Decency

Did this guy run the Bates Motel? Another nit-wit...
just get out and vote and have someebody watching the polls
because these are the types that have Civil War veterans voting,,something like they tried to pull in Florida which
Bush won by 27,563 votes....including the military ones
not counted and the ones torn up....they cheated in every
state they won except NoooYok and Calllyy4nia,,,,Jake.


38 posted on 07/11/2004 6:26:05 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: bogeybob

Look at me! I'm a college professor. If I write something, then it automatically must be true. Blah blah blah...


39 posted on 07/11/2004 6:32:59 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: sanjacjake
Wait... There's more! Remember the Somali "refugee" invasion of professional welfare bums into Lewiston/Auburn?... BTW, I was there yesterday.

In keeping with an egalitarian tradition pre-dating the Civil War, Bates has helped welcome Somali immigrants to the Lewiston area and has participated readily in efforts to show that hate and prejudice have no haven in this community. In an open letter soliciting ideas and participation, Chaplain Kerry Maloney, Dean of the College James Carignan and Dean of Students Celeste Branham thanked the Bates community for reaffirming the college's commitment to issues of "social justice and respect for the dignity of every person. We will continue to work together to oppose any group or person who aims to incite hatred, bias, violence and division within our community." Related Stories

Jan. 11: Slideshow of Diversity Rally Campus and community responses to hate groups

Bates College Community Information & Action Resource Page

The Many and One Coalition

The second teach-in, titled "The Ideology of Hate: Past and Present," will be offered at 4:15 p.m. Friday, Jan. 10. Professor of History Steve Hochstadt, who teaches about the Holocaust of European Jewry, will explore perspectives of the past. Steve Wessler, director of the Center for the Prevention of Hate Violence, and Kelvin Datcher, outreach coordinator for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), will discuss contemporary U.S. hate groups.

I wonder how they define "hate groups"?

I wonder if they would support a return to proper immigration policies?

I still have the paperwork from my grandmother coming from England. The ship's doctor had to certify she showed no sign of sickness each day.

40 posted on 07/11/2004 6:33:53 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel eonomy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: All

Norman Bates has a college


41 posted on 07/11/2004 6:34:55 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: The Wizard

Bates is in Lewiston-Auburn, Maine.


42 posted on 07/11/2004 6:38:11 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel eonomy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Mogger

"I arrived here in 1979... still working on my dissertation.... Just last year that project was finally completed...."

It took this guy 25 years to finish writing a book from his dissertation? Geez, what a slacker! I guess he wrote one word a day.


43 posted on 07/11/2004 6:39:13 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Mogger

It is in Lewiston. Auburn is across the Androscoggin River, but the cities are referred to as the "Twin Cities". Bates College is a bastion of liberal thinking. It has moved left hard over the last 30 years.


44 posted on 07/11/2004 6:42:12 PM PDT by bogeybob
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To: bogeybob

Yeah, that John Kerry guy REALLY has character -- like giving the finger to a Viet Nam Vet on Memorial Day at the Viet Nam Memorial.


45 posted on 07/11/2004 6:43:45 PM PDT by TommyDale ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." --Hillary Clinton)
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To: sanjacjake
"...have somebody watching the polls."

I've been looking for an opportunity to ask this... Do you not have representatives of each party at the polling stations, watching the voting procedures, able to challenge voter eligibility, observe the vote counting and able to challenge spoiled ballots? i.e. scrutineers.

46 posted on 07/11/2004 6:51:21 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: sanjacjake
Did this guy run the Bates Motel? Another nit-wit...
just get out and vote and have someebody watching the polls
because these are the types that have Civil War veterans voting,,something like they tried to pull in Florida which
Bush won by 27,563 votes....including the military ones
not counted and the ones torn up....they cheated in every
state they won except NoooYok and Calllyy4nia,,,,Jake.


27,563 votes???? Where did they come from? I need this figure for my Florida (D) mother-in-law!
47 posted on 07/11/2004 6:58:40 PM PDT by danamco
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To: bogeybob
Another mutant. The result of academia allowing the free flow of ideas to go unchecked if it attacks the institutions and moral values of the Judeo-Christion, capitalistic, free republic culture of America. Without such scrutiny, free ideas soon degenerate like skin cells without the protection of an immune system: they are allowed to go malignant. What we are seeing is a full blown cancer that is rampant in academia. What used to be bastions of noble thought for the betterment of mankind is now a cesspool as toxic as any of the worst industrial waste dumps.
48 posted on 07/11/2004 7:00:11 PM PDT by jonrick46 (jonrick46)
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To: Mogger

The guy is your banal cowardly "cosmopolitain"; the type who would carry water for totalitarians and then die in some gulag or some Sobibor while asking himself, "What did I miss?"


49 posted on 07/11/2004 7:04:49 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: bogeybob
War avoiders should not criticize the patriotism of war heroes or resisters.

Once again, I'd like someone to point me to one instance, one, where Bush or Cheney or the administration has questioned the patriotism of anyone.

** crickets chirping **

50 posted on 07/11/2004 7:11:30 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Virtue is learned at a mother's knee...and vices at other joints.)
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