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Iranian Alert -- July 12, 2004 [EST]-- IRAN LIVE THREAD -- "Americans for Regime Change in Iran"
The Iranian Student Movement Up To The Minute Reports ^ | 7.12.2004 | DoctorZin

Posted on 07/11/2004 9:44:51 PM PDT by DoctorZIn

The US media still largley ignores news regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran. As Tony Snow of the Fox News Network has put it, “this is probably the most under-reported news story of the year.” Most American’s are unaware that the Islamic Republic of Iran is NOT supported by the masses of Iranians today. Modern Iranians are among the most pro-American in the Middle East.

There is a popular revolt against the Iranian regime brewing in Iran today. I began these daily threads June 10th 2003. On that date Iranians once again began taking to the streets to express their desire for a regime change. Today in Iran, most want to replace the regime with a secular democracy.

The regime is working hard to keep the news about the protest movement in Iran from being reported. Unfortunately, the regime has successfully prohibited western news reporters from covering the demonstrations. The voices of discontent within Iran are sometime murdered, more often imprisoned. Still the people continue to take to the streets to demonstrate against the regime.

In support of this revolt, Iranians in America have been broadcasting news stories by satellite into Iran. This 21st century news link has greatly encouraged these protests. The regime has been attempting to jam the signals, and locate the satellite dishes. Still the people violate the law and listen to these broadcasts. Iranians also use the Internet and the regime attempts to block their access to news against the regime. In spite of this, many Iranians inside of Iran read these posts daily to keep informed of the events in their own country.

This daily thread contains nearly all of the English news reports on Iran. It is thorough. If you follow this thread you will witness, I believe, the transformation of a nation. This daily thread provides a central place where those interested in the events in Iran can find the best news and commentary. The news stories and commentary will from time to time include material from the regime itself. But if you read the post you will discover for yourself, the real story of what is occurring in Iran and its effects on the war on terror.

I am not of Iranian heritage. I am an American committed to supporting the efforts of those in Iran seeking to replace their government with a secular democracy. I am in contact with leaders of the Iranian community here in the United States and in Iran itself.

If you read the daily posts you will gain a better understanding of the US war on terrorism, the Middle East and why we need to support a change of regime in Iran. Feel free to ask your questions and post news stories you discover in the weeks to come.

If all goes well Iran will be free soon and I am convinced become a major ally in the war on terrorism. The regime will fall. Iran will be free. It is just a matter of time.


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Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail DoctorZin”

1 posted on 07/11/2004 9:44:53 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; McGavin999; Hinoki Cypress; ...
Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail DoctorZin”

2 posted on 07/11/2004 9:46:46 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Iranian Authorities Arrest Two Teachers' Union Leaders [Excerpt]

July 11, 2004
Dow Jones Newswires
The Associated Press

TEHRAN -- Authorities have arrested two leaders of Iran 's teachers' trade union, which organized an unsuccessful week-long strike earlier this year, a relative and the official news agency said Sunday.

Mahmoud Beheshti Langroudi and Ali-Asghar Zatti of Iran 's Teachers' Association were detained at their homes in Tehran Saturday, the Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

"Plainclothes judicial officers took my father away Saturday after searching our home for one and half hours," Zatti's daughter, Mona, told The Associated Press.

There was no word of explanation from the authorities about the detentions.

3 posted on 07/11/2004 9:47:35 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Arrest Warrant Issued For Iranian Editor, Monthly Closed Down

July 11, 2004
Khaleej Times Online

TEHERAN -- The Iranian judiciary issued an arrest warrant for the chief editor of the reformist daily Tosse’e and closed down a monthly, the news agency IRNA reported on Sunday.

The arrest warrant for Tosse’e editor Gholi Sheikhi was issued after he refused to show up at a court to answer charges of propagating against the Islamic system, IRNA said.

The judiciary also banned the reformist monthly Aftab which had allegedly published articles against the principles of Islamic rulership.

According to Iran’s Association for Press Freedom, more than 90 publications have been closed by the judiciary, 21 journalists and publishers remain in jail and more than 65 reporters have been summoned to courts on charges the association said were baseless.

Iran’s hardline judiciary, which accuses reformist press circles of trying to undermine the Islamic system and move the country toward secularism, views the press crackdown as defending Iran’s Islamic Republic.

4 posted on 07/11/2004 9:48:06 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Iran says "does not fear nuclear dossier being referred to UN"

AFP - World News (via Iranmania)
Jul 11, 2004

TEHRAN - Iran, facing allegations it is secretly trying to build an atomic bomb, dismissed Sunday calls by its archfoes for the dossier on its nuclear activities to be sent to the UN Security Council.

"Iran is not afraid of threats regarding the possible referral of its nuclear dossier to the UN Security Council," said foreign ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi.

"We are not worried about such threats, although we are trying to sort out the problem through the IAEA and its board of governors," he told a press conference, referring to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The United States and Israel, which both accuse Iran of seeking to make an atomic bomb, want the case sent to the Security Council -- which could impose sanctions on the Islamic republic.

But IAEA director Mohamed ElBaradei said during a visit last week to Israel -- widely believed to be the only nuclear power in the Middle East -- that such a referral would only complicate matters.

"Considering Iran's transparency and cooperation, there would be no reason to send our dossier to the Security Council," Asefi said.

Asefi also confirmed that Iran, which says its nuclear ambitions are limited to producing electricity, had taken the "political decision" to resume the manufacture and assembly of centrifuges but said that unspecified technical issues had yet to be resolved.

Last month, Iran announced it would go back on its commitment to Europe's so-called "Big Three" -- Britain, France and Germany -- to suspend production of centrifuges, which can be used to make bomb-grade uranium.

The move followed an IAEA resolution deploring Iran for its "lack of cooperation" with the international community over its nuclear actvities.

Asefi, however, said the manufacture of the centrifuges, which can also be used for peaceful purposes, will take place under IAEA control.

Iranian leaders have also said they do not intend to start the process of enriching uranium to make it useable in weapons.

5 posted on 07/11/2004 9:48:48 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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6 posted on 07/11/2004 9:50:24 PM PDT by freedom44
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Iranians and their supporters in 42 world cities demonstrated in support of pro-Democracy, Secular, and pro-American demonstrations in Iran, but where is the Media? Not a single major news media agency reported these protests, except for a couple of conservative outlets. We all know that if these were anti-US rallies the media would be all over them. When are we going to hold the media accountable and demand they stop being so anti-freedom, anti-democracy and anti-american. I post, you decide.

Our own DoctorZin joins thousands of Iranian-American friends in Los Angeles

Iranian-American carried photos of President Bush and the Bush/Cheney 2004 table was hot
Palo Alto, California.
Los Angeles, California. 5-10,000 Iranian-Americans
Westwood, California
Pheonix, Arizona
San Diego, California
Washington, D.C.
New York, NY
Vancouver, Canada
Toronto, Canada
London, England
Cambridge, England
Berlin, Germany
Rome, Italy
Rome, Italy
Hanover, Germany
Athens, Greece

Stockholm, Switzerland
7 posted on 07/11/2004 9:58:02 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Ja_Ride

Iranians aren't Arabs, they don't share a common ethnicity, country, heritage, culture, language, history, background, political prespective with Iraqis, so who cares about what happens in Iraq when it comes to Iran?

Thanks for the information on Iraq, but what does it have to do with Iran?

Nothing. <---period.

9 posted on 07/11/2004 10:49:55 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Ja_Ride; F14 Pilot; Cyrus the Great; Persia; faludeh_shirazi; nuconvert; Stefania; democracy

The majority of Iranians are Sunni?



11 posted on 07/11/2004 11:04:47 PM PDT by freedom44
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Good one.. genious. Shia Islam was started by Iranians b/c they wanted to separate themselves from the Arabs, although it spread to parts of Iraq it was an Iranian sect religion.


Shi'a Muslim 89%, Sunni Muslim 9%, Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i 2%

Ethnic groups:
Persian 51%, Azeri 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%

12 posted on 07/11/2004 11:08:46 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
Your photo collection is nothing short of inspiring.
I hope Iranians in Iran are able to see these scenes of support around the world.

Great job, Freedom 44
13 posted on 07/11/2004 11:12:49 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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14 posted on 07/11/2004 11:13:54 PM PDT by windchime (Where in the world is Joseph C. Wilson?)
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To: freedom44

genius... 8)

15 posted on 07/11/2004 11:16:16 PM PDT by freedom44
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This is the same broadcaster (XTV) that interviewed me last week. This is an interview with Roger L. Simon, novelist, Screenwriter and bloger

Roger L. Simon, Dr. Iman Foroutan, and Listener phone calls - Special 18 Tir 2004 Program

Wedensday, July 07, 2004 XTV (Please Click on one of the following links to watch interview!)


16 posted on 07/12/2004 1:41:09 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Excellent work, freedom. :)

17 posted on 07/12/2004 7:40:40 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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Iran Rules Out Direct Nuclear Talks with U.S.

July 12, 2004

TEHRAN -- Iran ruled out on Monday holding direct talks with the United States on its nuclear program. "There is no justification for accepting suggestions to hold negotiations with a country which adopts a bullying attitude toward others," Hassan Rohani, secretary-general of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, told state television.

Washington accuses Iran of trying to develop nuclear weapons. Tehran says its ambitions are limited to generating electricity from nuclear reactors.

Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog the International Atomic Energy Agency, had told U.S. policymakers in March that Iran might be open to a deal and suggested direct U.S. contacts with Tehran, U.S. officials said. Washington broke ties with Tehran following its Islamic revolution in 1979.

Rohani also played down negotiations with Germany, France and Britain and said Iran held talks with them in the past year because the big three European powers initiated the dialogue.

"The other party to the negotiations for us is the International Atomic Energy Agency and we have nothing to do with any other country," he said.

"If we are talking with the Europeans countries, it is because we have normal relations with them and they took the initiative to do so."

The IAEA board passed a resolution in June that rebuked Tehran for not fully cooperating with IAEA inspectors.

In retaliation, Iran said it was resuming production and testing of centrifuges, which can be used to enrich uranium, ending an agreement with the European states that it would suspend such activities.

18 posted on 07/12/2004 9:02:53 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Of 'Lies' and WMD [Excerpt]

July 12, 2004
The Wall Street Journal
Review & Outlook

"The Committee did not find any evidence that Administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments related to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities."

So reads Conclusion 83 of the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on prewar intelligence on Iraq. The Committee likewise found no evidence of pressure to link Iraq to al Qaeda. So it appears that some of the claims about WMD used by the Bush Administration and others to argue for war in Iraq were mistaken because they were based on erroneous information provided by the CIA.

A few apologies would seem to be in order. Allegations of lying or misleading the nation to war are about the most serious charge that can be leveled against a President. But according to this unanimous study, signed by Jay Rockefeller and seven other Democrats, those frequent charges from prominent Democrats and the media are without merit.

Or to put it more directly, if President Bush were "lying" about WMD, then so was Mr. Rockefeller when he relied on CIA evidence to claim in October 2002 that Saddam Hussein's weapons "pose a very real threat to America." Also lying at the time were John Kerry, John Edwards, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and so on. Yet Mr. Rockefeller is still suggesting on the talk shows, based on nothing but inference and innuendo, that there was undue political Bush "pressure" on CIA analysts.

The West Virginia Democrat also asserted on Friday that Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith has been running a rogue intelligence operation that is "not lawful." Mr. Feith's shop has spent more than 1,800 hours responding to queries from the Senate and has submitted thousands of pages of documents -- none of which supports such a charge. Shouldn't even hyper-partisan Senators have to meet some minimum standard of honesty?

In fact, the report shows that one of the first allegations of false intelligence was itself a distortion: Mr. Bush's allegedly misleading claim in the 2003 State of the Union address that Iraq had been seeking uranium ore from Africa. The Senate report notes that Presidential accuser and former CIA consultant Joe Wilson returned from his trip to Africa with no information that cast serious doubt on such a claim; and that, contrary to Mr. Wilson's public claims, his wife (a CIA employee) was involved in helping arrange his mission.

"When coordinating the State of the Union, no Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) analysts or officials told the National Security Council (NSC) to remove the '16 words' or that there were concerns about the credibility of the Iraq-Niger Uranium reporting," the report says. In short, Joe Wilson is a partisan fraud whose trip disproved nothing, and what CIA doubts there were on Niger weren't shared with the White House.

The broader CIA failure on Iraq's WMD is troubling, though it is important to keep in mind that this was a global failure. Every serious intelligence service thought Saddam still had WMD, and the same consensus existed across the entire U.S. intelligence community. One very alarming explanation, says the report, is that the CIA had "no [human] sources collecting against weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after 1998." That's right. Not one source.

When asked why not, a CIA officer replied "because it's very hard to sustain." The report's rather obvious answer is that spying "should be within the norm of the CIA's activities and capabilities," and some blame for this human intelligence failure has to fall on recently departed Director George Tenet and his predecessor, John Deutch.

The Senate report blames these CIA failures not just on management but also on "a risk averse corporate culture." This sounds right, and Acting Director John McLaughlin's rejection of this criticism on Friday is all the more reason for Mr. Bush to name a real replacement. Richard Armitage has been mentioned for the job, but the Deputy Secretary of State has been consistently wrong about Iran, which will be a principle threat going forward, and his and Colin Powell's philosophy at the State Department has been to let the bureaucrats run the place. We can think of better choices.

One real danger now is that the intelligence community will react to this Iraq criticism by taking even fewer risks, or by underestimating future threats as it has so often in the past.

19 posted on 07/12/2004 9:04:47 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Iran Cracks Down On Skimpy Clothes

July 12, 2004
Agence France-Presse
From Correspondents in Tehran

Iranian security forces have stepped up what appears to be a major crackdown on insufficiently veiled women by launching raids on shopping centres and shops selling skimpy clothing.

According to one witness, scores of policemen - and policewomen in chadors - raided the Milad commercial centre in the west of Tehran on Sunday, and detained dozens of young women deemed not to be respecting the Islamic dress code.

They also confiscated coats they considered to be too transparent or figure-hugging.

Another resident reported a similar raid in the Sorkheh Bazar shopping centre in the central district of Vanak, with dozens more young girls also arrested.

One man said he had to go to release his cousin from police custody, but added that the woman was only freed on condition that she return for a course in Islamic morals.

In recent weeks a string of similar raids have been reported, mainly in the more upmarket north of the capital. Scores of young girls have been seen being taken away from commercial centres in minibuses operated by the police.

Police and Islamic militiamen have also reportedly stepped up their raids on private parties where they suspect the presence of alcohol or mixed-sex dancing.

But it remains unclear if the current clampdown is the usual pre-summer anti-vice operation, or a sign of stricter rules following the shift to he right of the regime following February's parliament election of conservatives.

Since the 1979 Islamic revolution, all post-pubescent females are required to wear the veil and a long coat that conceals their bodily form. Violators risk fines or imprisonment.

However in large cities in recent years, many women have progressively flouted the rules by wearing flimsy headscarfs and brightly-coloured, short and skimpy coats.,4057,10116391%255E1702,00.html

20 posted on 07/12/2004 9:05:27 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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