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Defense of Marriage Amendment debate on CSPAN2 LIVE THREAD
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Posted on 07/12/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT by abnegation

And so it begins.....


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: anarchy; anarchyinamerica; civilization; dirtyrottenhomos; fma; homosexualagenda; homosexualbehavior; lawlessness; marriageamendment; nambla; protectchildren; protectfamily; romans1; senate; sexualperversion; wayneallard
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To: johnfrink
"Glad to see we are discussing the TRULY important issues of the day, and not bothering to discuss those small and petty issues like terror, health care, the economy, and so forth."

If you feel that way, why did you bother to post to the thread?

"What a festering pile of CRAP this amendment is!"

I disagree. I believe we need to start strengthening marriage since it is the foundation on which society is built.

Ah, but since you think this is a topic not worth spending time on, I'm sure you won't be responding to this post. You have more important things to do.

21 posted on 07/12/2004 10:42:59 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: trebb

Culturaly I feel like I'm on Omaha Beach and the Panzers are coming down the cliffs.


22 posted on 07/12/2004 10:43:08 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: OXENinFLA

Yes, and sponsored by BOTH of my Senators (Craig and Crapo, ID). For once, I don't have to call them to complain either! LOL


23 posted on 07/12/2004 10:43:41 AM PDT by abnegation (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness TR)
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To: OXENinFLA

"`Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution, nor the constitution of any State, shall be construed to require that marriage or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon any union other than the union of a man and a woman."

Thanks for putting up the language, Oxen. This matters. This is not c@#9.


24 posted on 07/12/2004 10:45:05 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: johnfrink

When the very foundation of our societal structure is degraded, I can think of no more important piece of legislation to get in place ASAP.
When our founding fathers used the phrase, "we hold these truths to be self-evident", never in their wildest dreams were they imagining the depths of depravity that we would be debating as "rights" less than 250 years later.


25 posted on 07/12/2004 10:46:11 AM PDT by Knute
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To: OXENinFLA

The amendment doesn't have a SINGLE Senate Democratic co-sponsor. Not even Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller. What is it about the Democrats that they talk about American values but can't bring themselves to support the most important of them all? Which is an American as apple pie. Anyway, however the Senate votes, this will tell us a great deal on what Congress thinks about our most important social institution and its future and the sad part is these people need a LOT of convincing to do the right thing.


26 posted on 07/12/2004 10:48:05 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Knute

Santorum is doing an excellent job of explaining why this is important, etc.


27 posted on 07/12/2004 10:48:12 AM PDT by abnegation (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness TR)
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To: ken5050

A totally phony argument which a lot of gutless Republicans will buy into also. If this issue where brought to the vote of the American people, it would pass by a landslide. Here, its our elected representatives who for once, are out of touch with public opinion.


28 posted on 07/12/2004 10:50:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Santorem is doing a good job defending this amendment. "Children need mothers and fathers and society should be all about that." Hard to believe we have come to the point where this has to be fought for.


29 posted on 07/12/2004 10:50:09 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: johnfrink
Glad to see we are discussing the TRULY important issues of the day, and not bothering to discuss those small and petty issues like terror, health care, the economy, and so forth.

What a festering pile of CRAP this amendment is!

Last time I looked, the vast majority of the country didn't agree with you regarding gay "marriage". Now, why not run along and join you buds at DU.

30 posted on 07/12/2004 10:50:35 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: goldstategop

ZELL is on it now.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SJ00040:@@@P


31 posted on 07/12/2004 10:52:12 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Bahbah

Its simple common sense. What has happened to our country that the proposition Sen. Santorum put forth has become so controversial?


32 posted on 07/12/2004 10:52:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Knute

Whatever they say, they are not really talking about rights. They are talking about the privilege of employers paying for benefits. I am no fan of government ordered benefits. If an employer has the means and the inclination to offer benefits to gay couples then that's great. In fact, the big companies (which are supposed to be the cornerstone of the vrwc) offer partner benefits. It's the small business that gets hosed.

Wouldn't it be healthier for people to do what they think is right and not rely on others to pay for those decisions?


33 posted on 07/12/2004 10:52:43 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: abnegation

Unfortunately, debate is as far as it will go as it will never pass.


34 posted on 07/12/2004 10:54:03 AM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: teletech

Up to 70% of the American people in various states from Republican, conservative Alaska to Democratic, liberal Hawaii have backed protecting traditional marriage. A partisan issue it ain't.


35 posted on 07/12/2004 10:54:05 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I didn't say it was valid..I merely explained how the Dems will positin and spin it..


36 posted on 07/12/2004 10:55:14 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: South40

We will see. The debate can still be enlightening to the country in telling us what the Democrats mean by American values.


37 posted on 07/12/2004 10:55:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: teletech

It's obvious when a DUer infests FR; you can smell them.


38 posted on 07/12/2004 10:56:56 AM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: goldstategop
You think it's going to get a 2/3 vote?

Not likely.

39 posted on 07/12/2004 10:57:45 AM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: MEGoody
I believe we need to start strengthening marriage since it is the foundation on which society is built.

Right, so let's focus on the reason that so many actual marriages fail, rather than trying to stop people who want to be married from getting married. Britney Spears can get married and then annulled in 55 hours, and can then get engaged to her boyfriend, who happens to be the fiance to the woman with whom he has one child and another on the way, and there's no problem with that. But two guys who have been together for 15 years want to get married, and woah! We need an amendment to our Constitution! This is a cheap political stunt, and it makes the GOP look petty.

40 posted on 07/12/2004 11:00:00 AM PDT by johnfrink
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