Posted on 07/13/2004 6:50:48 AM PDT by Area Freeper
"Modern Psychology" has a lot of voices & they don't all agree with you. The "establishment" is not always correct - just usually "politically correct".
I'm just responding to my instincts.
Apparently you have been socialized to see yourself as the helpless victim of forces beyond your control.
There is little I can do to help you except to reaffirm the possibility of your exercising free will and self-control.
If you believe that you're helpless, then you are.
I would prefer to track the more scientific polls that have been undertaken on this issue. Even if you were to start a poll, those men who have perhaps had a fleeting attraction to another man are not going to admit to it on this site. You have fun anyway though.
Did I say I was helpless? Where did you get the idea I was socialized to see myself as a victim? Did you READ my post? I have no idea what you are talking about. I was talking about responding to my instincts to a man the same way you respond to the opposite sex.
Their views are political. But you knew that.
Is an attraction to children "abnormal"? If so, how did you conclude that?
What is it a problem to you to answer?
I bet the pony did not share the same attraction for "Mark of Missouri" as he did for Pixel the pony...
Great, I'm glad you know more about psychology than the majority of psychologists in this country. As long as they say what you want to hear than its not political, right? Whatever. I'm done.
Why can't I marry my brother? We're both male, so it's not as if birth defects would be a problem.
Are there any polls which disagree with you?
No, you didn't - that you are helpless was implied by your entire testimony.
Hiding behind 'instincts' is the coward's way of denying personal responsibility for actions - I recommend avoiding it.
You will hear all kinds of homosexuals say all kinds of things......just like you will finds different kinds of straight people. The gay people I know are professionals, lawyers, doctors, even some who do PR for the Republican party, and they aren't narcissistic, and they've been in relationships longer than most of the straight people I know.
When it comes to worshipping the creation over the creator, that's a problem with our American society in general......that's pop culture for you. I agree though, its a problem
Feelings are irrelevant. Behavior is chosen.
--Hiding behind 'instincts' is the coward's way of denying personal responsibility for actions - I recommend avoiding it.--
Bravo!!
You are kidding, right? You are just acting on YOUR instincts when you look at an attractive person of the opposite sex, aren't you. I don't understand how you can view what I wrote as me being helpless.
Bravo for what. He's not making any sense.
If you are saying I can choose to be in a relationship or not, then yes, that IS a choice I have. However, I do not choose how I feel about someone. I would very much like to fall in love and be in a relationship with someone of the same sex some day. Are you telling me I shouldn't?
If the psychologists say something scientifically demonstrable then they are experts. If they simply say "homosexuality is a normal variant" then they are expressing an opinion of no more value than mine or yours.
There is no body of knowledge that makes anybody any more expert on what is "normal" or "abnormal" than you and I can examine, right here on this thread.
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