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Ron Reagan, Jr. vs. William F. Buckley -- Wayward Son Gets Public Flogging
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 12, 2004 | Robert Novak

Posted on 07/13/2004 9:44:17 AM PDT by bimboeruption

Amid the spontaneous outpouring of respect and affection for Ronald Reagan after his death, a discordant note was sounded by his son. In a succession of television and newspaper interviews, Ron Reagan Jr. used the occasion to trash George W. Bush by drawing invidious comparisons between his father and the current president. Nobody knew how to respond in a time of national mourning. Nobody, that is, except William F. Buckley Jr.

The elder statesman of the conservative movement considered Ron Jr.'s remarks a public challenge that ought to be challenged publicly. Buckley wrote Reagan a letter that specifically addressed his claim in an interview with the New York Times that he, as a self-professed atheist, admired the Buddhist teachings of ''mindfulness and loving kindness and compassion.'' Buckley told him: ''You proceed in a single interview to profane/deride the faith of your parents, which is not very mindful.''

There was more than one interview. In his graveside eulogy, the son threw a dart at President Bush by saying his father never wore ''his faith on his sleeve.'' That was just the beginning of attempts to dispel any notion that Bush was another Reagan. ''My father did not know George W. Bush from Adam,'' he said on CNN, adding: ''My father was a man -- that's the difference between him and Bush.'' As far as Republicans using the Reagan heritage, he said on MSNBC, ''This is their war. If they can't stand on their own two feet, they're no Ronald Reagans.''

This fit the desperate effort by Bush-bashers to keep the president from politically benefitting as a result of national grief over Reagan's passing. With publication in the New York Times Magazine of Ron Jr.'s interview with Deborah Solomon, Buckley wrote the son with a point-by-point response.

RR Jr.: The nude picture of his sister Patti in Playboy was ''just something that is not too exciting.''

WFB: ''Why then was there so much excitement about it?''

RR Jr.: As for his father's reaction when he dropped out of Yale to join the ballet, ''That was fine with him.''

WFB: ''It wasn't fine with him and he enlisted my aid in trying to persuade you to stay in college.''

RR Jr.: Having three cats while being childless ''is like having children.''

WFB: ''No, it's not like having children.''

RR Jr.: As to whether his mother helps him out financially, ''Of course not. My father felt that children should make their own way.''

WFB: ''I know, and you know that I know, something about that question. But to say that 'of course' your mother does not help you out suggests she will not do so even if there were a need. Are you saying she would not acknowledge you in her will?''

RR Jr.: As to the Abu Ghraib prison abuses, ''How can Christians tolerate it?''

WFB: ''I don't know of any Christians who 'tolerate it.' The perpetrators are reviled.''

RR Jr.: In an answer to a question, he said he did not vote for Bush in the last election.

WFB: ''Odd that you should permit this invasion of privacy whose only purpose is to remark the political infidelity of the son of Ronald Reagan.''

RR Jr.: His father ''worked hard to impress upon his children the value of kindness.''

WFB: ''If he did, he was manifestly unsuccessful.''

This is more than a wayward son, at age 46 with a career seemingly going nowhere, seeking 15 minutes of fame. He has signed with MSNBC as a ''contributor'' for the 2004 campaign. It is a windfall for Democratic operatives to quote the son of Ronald Reagan saying of Republicans: ''I couldn't join a party that, frankly, tolerates members who are bigots for one thing, homophobes, racists.''

Buckley and his National Review magazine were in the forefront of early Reagan supporters. In his newly published Miles Gone By: A Literary Autobiography, he paints a picture of a Ronald Reagan who ''was zestfully concerned for the comfort of others.'' Nobody has better credentials than Bill Buckley to deliver a point-by-point rebuttal to the errant offspring. Those who know Nancy Reagan say she fully agrees with her old friend.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bashingchristians; georgewbush; homosexualbehavior; jr; nancyreagan; robertnovak; ronaldreagan; ronreagan; williamfbuckley
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If it weren't for his Dad, this smug, pompous, self-righteous, arrogant, worthless little twerp wouldn't even be narrating dog shows. I LOVE Buckley!
I swear, Nancy made that flaky hippy, Patti, and Jr. all by herself. There isn't an iota of Pres. Reagan in either one.
BTW, don't you think Jr. looks like Nancy before plastic surgery?
1 posted on 07/13/2004 9:44:21 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption
BTTT for against JUNIOR!!!!!

GREAT post!!!

2 posted on 07/13/2004 9:51:51 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Hair? Ya wanna talk about hair? President REAGAN had a NICE head of hair!!)
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To: bimboeruption

Ya sometimes wonder who was actually adopted? LOL
Michael is more Reagan than Reagan's own flesh and blood...


3 posted on 07/13/2004 9:53:00 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: bimboeruption

Anyone know yet where Buckley's letter to li'l Ron can be found in full?

Dan


4 posted on 07/13/2004 9:53:12 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

This is all I've seen of it.


5 posted on 07/13/2004 9:55:26 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: bimboeruption
How can anyone take a guy that wore a codpiece seriously ?
6 posted on 07/13/2004 9:57:59 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: bimboeruption
This fit the desperate effort by Bush-bashers to keep the president from politically benefitting as a result of national grief over Reagan's passing.

Actually what's happening is that Ronald Reagan Jr. is seizing the opportunity to show off in public again even more embarassingly than when during his father's presidency he became a ballet dancer, and also when he did a Tom Cruse spoof posing in his undies and singing on TV.

It's sad for Nancy, but her kids are losers and Jane Wyman's daughter and adopted son turned out by far the best of Ronald Reagan's children. And Nancy didn't even get any grandchildren from her two biologicals.

7 posted on 07/13/2004 10:00:22 AM PDT by xJones
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To: BibChr

I wish I knew. Ron, Jr. talked about it last night on Hard Ball.
I'd give my Hopilong Cassidy mug to read the whole thing.


8 posted on 07/13/2004 10:01:42 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: xJones
It's sad for Nancy

Look at the last line of this article; it looks to me like Nancy may have known Novak was going to publish this.

9 posted on 07/13/2004 10:01:47 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: bimboeruption

I'd love to hear Michael Reagan speak at the Republican Convention.


10 posted on 07/13/2004 10:05:25 AM PDT by ncdrumr
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To: xJones

"And Nancy didn't even get any grandchildren from her two biologicals."

Many may consider that a BLESSING!


11 posted on 07/13/2004 10:06:16 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption

I heard RPR and Pat Buchanan on the radio a couple of years ago, filling in for Hannity, I think, and they were debating gay marriage. RPR was so ignorant, it was impossible to debate. When Buchanan made a reference to "the Kinsey Report," RPR was completely baffled. "Who put that out? What was that?" It was evident that he thought it was some government report that came out last week, and he missed it. There were multiple examples of a lack of basic common knowledge. He is, after all, a dropout.


12 posted on 07/13/2004 10:08:58 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Howlin

"Look at the last line of this article; it looks to me like Nancy may have known Novak was going to publish this."

Of course she knew. Her astrologer told her.


13 posted on 07/13/2004 10:09:38 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption

I knew Ron (Jr.) in high school. He hasn't changed.


14 posted on 07/13/2004 10:12:20 AM PDT by Restore (As in: "Restore the Constitution!")
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To: Modernman

In case you hadn't seen this. What a Grade-A slapdown! And I agree with one of the previous comments that this was done with, at the very least, a wink and a nod from Nancy.


15 posted on 07/13/2004 10:20:19 AM PDT by BroncosFan (NJ 2005: Schundler for Governor)
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To: bimboeruption

Right bim

It is one hugh blessing.


16 posted on 07/13/2004 10:20:26 AM PDT by Tripoli
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To: bimboeruption

What'd he say?


17 posted on 07/13/2004 10:22:10 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Howlin
Look at the last line of this article; it looks to me like Nancy may have known Novak was going to publish this.

I read that, and that has to be a terrible sadness for her if she had to tacitly agree with the calling down of her Bevis and Butthead-style 46 year-old son for behaving so ridiculously.

18 posted on 07/13/2004 10:23:45 AM PDT by xJones
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To: bimboeruption
Robert Novak, and his editors are freakin' idiots.

The liberal in question is not a junior - he is Ronald Prescot Reagan....his father was Ronald Wilson Reagan. Ron P. is not a junior by any definition.
19 posted on 07/13/2004 10:27:11 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Michael Moore has made "documentary" a 1-word oxymoron.)
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To: bimboeruption

All of these references to "Ron JR" aggravate me. He is NOT officially a "junior". If he were, his middle name would be "Wilson" instead of "Prescott". Let's just stop with the "Jr." from now on, since it's incorrect and provides him with tangential legitimacy. "Little Ron" or something similar would be more appropriate.


20 posted on 07/13/2004 10:32:05 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: kellynla
Ya sometimes wonder who was actually adopted?

If memory serves, Commodus was the natural son of Marcus Aurelius. It didn't do him, or the Romans, any good.

21 posted on 07/13/2004 10:34:42 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Keith in Iowa; MayflowerMadam

You two are absolutely correct!
I only referred to the twerp as Jr., because Novak did.
However can you come up with something more appropriate than "Little Ron"?


22 posted on 07/13/2004 10:38:11 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: xJones

I can't understand what's going in his mind; leaving aside the stem cells, which he has a perfect right to push, the uncalled for gratuitous swipes at Bush at "perceived" actions gives me pause; perhaps he has some issues with the way he treated his parents and is now trying to redeem himself in his own mind.


23 posted on 07/13/2004 10:40:43 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: xJones

The one thing I hope is that nobody asks her to speak at the GOP convention.


24 posted on 07/13/2004 10:41:17 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: bimboeruption

>>However can you come up with something more appropriate than "Little Ron"?

How 'bout Liberal-atheist Ron P. Reagan...after all, the media likes to use labels like ultra-conservative in connection with Newt Gingrich all the time.


25 posted on 07/13/2004 10:41:20 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Michael Moore has made "documentary" a 1-word oxymoron.)
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To: bimboeruption
This is more than a wayward son, at age 46 with a career seemingly going nowhere, seeking 15 minutes of fame.

This says it all. Lil' Ron has no trouble using his father's death for his personal gain. Sad. Disgusting. Liberal. Sorry, didn't mean to be so redundant

26 posted on 07/13/2004 10:42:13 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Separate property from private possession, and Leviathan becomes master of all." ~Dr. Russell Kirk)
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To: BibChr

Ron Twerp said he received a letter from Buckley and that he thought Buckley was going to keep it private.


27 posted on 07/13/2004 10:43:10 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption

"However can you come up with something more appropriate than 'Little Ron'?"

Actually I CAN come up with something more appropriate -- but definitely not nice or post-able.


28 posted on 07/13/2004 10:44:49 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: bimboeruption

Ron Jr. is crying for attention, just like his sister Patti did most of her life. As far as appearing at the convention, it will have little if any impact on voters. It just reveals again, that Ron Jr. ain't the brightest bulb on the tree.


29 posted on 07/13/2004 10:47:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: bimboeruption

According to The Corner, Mr. Buckley will be on Rush's show at 2:00 Eastern. Could be interesting...

I also read elsewhere that Buckley will be on HARDBALL today, one day after Ron announced on that show that Kerry promised him the first thing he'd do as President is overturn the ban on stem cell research. Again, could be interesting.


30 posted on 07/13/2004 10:47:31 AM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: 1Old Pro

oops, sorry about the jr. thing.


31 posted on 07/13/2004 10:49:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: bimboeruption

Oh, of course. He sang in the key of "Wah."

I really, really should have known.

Dan
/c8


32 posted on 07/13/2004 10:53:22 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: bimboeruption

Novak should know better than to call RPR "Ron, Jr."


33 posted on 07/13/2004 10:59:06 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: GOPrincess; Mo1; Howlin; glock rocks

Yep. Rush just said Bill Buckley will be on, after THIS commercial break.

STAY TUNED!!!


34 posted on 07/13/2004 10:59:48 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Hair? Ya wanna talk about hair? President REAGAN had a NICE head of hair!!)
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To: kellynla

Different mothers, different environments.....Nancy, being a very needy woman, siphoned off most of the care that young children need. The children finally gave up and the only way to get their father's attention was to be in opposition to him in every aspect of their lives.


35 posted on 07/13/2004 11:11:16 AM PDT by Toespi (,)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Yea .. But Bush is on FNC NOW!!

The Crowd is in a GOOG MOOD!


36 posted on 07/13/2004 11:12:52 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: kellynla

"Michael is more Reagan than Reagan's own flesh and blood..."

All the Reagan children filled my eyes with tears. Michael because of the admiration for his father that came through his talk. I was so touched by Michael's thankfulness that Ronald Reagan shared his faith with Michael. I'm sure that the Gipper was so proud. Ronald and Patti filled my eyes with tears because I'm sure that the Gipper was so ashamed of them. Sad that such a great man could have such losers as children.


37 posted on 07/13/2004 11:22:59 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: bimboeruption

Probably was going to keep it private until he realized Ron wasn't going to shut his mouth.


38 posted on 07/13/2004 11:31:50 AM PDT by gingerky
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To: bimboeruption
He has signed with MSNBC as a ''contributor'' for the 2004 campaign.

Can MSNBC be any less transparent? The only time they hire a "Reagan" and he's the liberal black sheep.

Is MSNBC going to go out of it's way to hire the most Conservative member in the Kennedy family? (assuming one exists)

40 posted on 07/13/2004 11:46:43 AM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: Toespi; xJones; kellynla
Within a day of Pres. Reagan's death, I saw an interview of Ron the Twerp on MSNBC or CNN filmed before his passing.
The Twerp talked about how his Dad didn't like to push his views down other people's throats -- not even his kid's.
Twerp said that one Sunday morning when he was 12, his Dad came up to his room to tell him it was time for church not knowing his son had decided to become an atheist.
When Reagan saw his son still in his teeshirt and jeans he asked him why he wasn't dressed for church. The Twerp told him he wasn't going to church any more because he didn't believe in God.
Reagan let him stay home. A mistake IMHO.
12 year olds have a difficult time determining what sox to wear let alone if God exists.
Maybe if Reagan would have insisted he attend church a little longer, the Twerp would have turned out differently.
41 posted on 07/13/2004 11:56:10 AM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption
After this election is over....and President Bush wins....Ron will disappear; no longer needed by the leftist commies.

I found a funny tidbit in regard to Nancy...her and Ronald Reagan were married on March 4th, 1952....Patti was born October 17th, 1952. OPPPS!!!

42 posted on 07/13/2004 11:56:28 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: bimboeruption
However can you come up with something more appropriate than "Little Ron"?

...'The Ronette'..?

43 posted on 07/13/2004 12:01:13 PM PDT by martin gibson
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To: shield
I found a funny tidbit in regard to Nancy...her and Ronald Reagan were married on March 4th, 1952....Patti was born October 17th, 1952. OPPPS!!!

Nancy Reagan said in her autobiography that she was pregnant when they married. But they did get married, even if Patti was a real pain as an eternal adolescent, similiar in that way to Ron, Jr.

44 posted on 07/13/2004 12:04:57 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Arthur McGowan
Novak should know better than to call RPR "Ron, Jr."

Thank you for that correction, Arthur, it is a relief to learn that maroon isn't entitled to be called Reagan Jr.

45 posted on 07/13/2004 12:10:54 PM PDT by xJones
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To: shield

Which proves my point...I don't believe Hippy Patti and Ron The Twerp are his kids.
Too bad DNA tests weren't available when these brats were born. But then again, Reagan was too nice a guy to ask for one.


46 posted on 07/13/2004 12:15:53 PM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption

Prescott taken to the proverbial woodshed by the master in verbage, Buckley. Thought he'd keep it private--- ha! The politicizing ballerina is pouting.


47 posted on 07/13/2004 12:17:20 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Mary Landrieu challenged any Sen/Cong. to prove F-911 wrong this morning on FOX. GOP- get busy.)
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To: bimboeruption
I agree that as long as a minor is under your roof, the minor must follow the rules. Jr. should have been made to attend church. That said, God will allow Jr. to make all the mistakes he chooses until judgment day. Hopefully, before that day arrives, for Jr.'s sake, he will pull his head out of his arse. :-]
48 posted on 07/13/2004 12:21:02 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: martin gibson

Ronda


49 posted on 07/13/2004 12:27:49 PM PDT by Kokotele
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To: kellynla

Amen on all your points!
I'll remember him in prayer.


50 posted on 07/13/2004 12:30:41 PM PDT by bimboeruption
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