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Supreme Court Sides With Pornographers Again
eagleforum.org ^ | July 14, 2004 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 07/13/2004 10:11:42 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Melas
A college girl can have a legal gang-bang tonigh

I love threads like this, I really do.

81 posted on 07/13/2004 11:13:52 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: jwalsh07
Some minors and majors also routinely rape and kill people even though those acts are proscribed by law.

Please quit changing the subject every time you're proven to be factually wrong. You indicated that the presence of on-line alcohol and tobacco sellers somehow "proved" that they didn't have a problem proving that the customer was of age on the Internet. I merely pointed out that, really...they don't have any such mechanism.

82 posted on 07/13/2004 11:14:00 AM PDT by Poohbah (Technical difficulties have temporarily interrupted this tagline. Please stand by.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Of course you cannot sell your own organs, and this proves that your body is not your property.

The exact antithesis of what the Founders once were qouted as saying. Nice of you to come out of the closet as a socialist.

83 posted on 07/13/2004 11:14:49 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: jwalsh07
could go down to the Dirty Harry's Women on Wheels club.

I gotta party with you... sounds like you know ALL of the intriguing places! ;^)

84 posted on 07/13/2004 11:14:54 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Robert_Paulson2

This is terrifying. It's like finding out someone you lived with is an serial killer.


85 posted on 07/13/2004 11:14:58 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas
Pictures and text are not real goods.

You must be unfamiliar with the concept of intellectual property.

86 posted on 07/13/2004 11:15:08 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: babyface00
Are you saying Congress has no authority because the servers are offshore? The MP3-sharing people would love to hear that.

I would say yes, Congress lacks authority. Note that Napster was US based, with its operations contained entirely within the US.

Consider sites like UltimateBet.com, PartyPoker.com, etc... Gambling is illegal is most of the US, yet I can gamble at these sites all day long, and I often do. I am breaking the law by doing this, but UltimateBet.com is not violating any laws, and congress has ZERO authority to attempt a prosecution against them as they are FOREIGN companies.

87 posted on 07/13/2004 11:15:11 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You don't need to look very far to find a tragic crime traceable to the internet.

OK, class, pop quiz time:

1. The belief that crime is caused by inanimate objects is held by:
a. Sarah Brady
b. Phyllis Schlafly
c. Neither of the above
d. Both of the above
2. The word describing a person who holds this belief is:
a. columnist
b. feminist
c. expert
d. nincompoop
(Correct answers: 1)d, 2)d )

88 posted on 07/13/2004 11:16:25 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: Poohbah

While the statute labels all speech that falls within these definitions as criminal speech, it also provides an affirmative defense to those who employ specified means to prevent minors from gaining access to the prohibited materials on their Web site. A person may escape conviction under the statute by demonstrating that he
"has restricted access by minors to material that is harmful to minors-
"(A) by requiring use of a credit card, debit account, adult access code, or adult personal identification number;

"(B) by accepting a digital certificate that verifies age, or

"(C) by any other reasonable measures that are feasible under available technology." §231(c)(1)....


89 posted on 07/13/2004 11:16:31 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Servant of the 9
"I managed"

I doubt it.

Have your childern never watched network television w/ the prerequisite penis jokes, sexual semi-double entendre's? They never watched any cable television while you weren't around? Did your children attend school in a Seminary? They've never been in a drugstore to view magazines that shout SEX, SEX, and Better SEX.

I'm not a prude, however, the constant bombardment of society w/ sex is dehumanizing, petty, and foolish. It is beyond question having a malevolent impact upon our mores.

Finally, there was no pornographic industry in 18th century America. Purveyors of filth were thrown in the stocks w/ the approval of all responsible adults. The idea that such stupidity would be protected speech would have been absurd to them.

90 posted on 07/13/2004 11:16:37 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Joe, you're solidly building a case that you're a statist who wants the government to have absolutely control of the citizenry. The government you envision is aboslutely frightening. All lovers of liberty and freedom would oppose it until the death.


91 posted on 07/13/2004 11:16:41 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Phantom Lord
Consider sites like UltimateBet.com, PartyPoker.com, etc... Gambling is illegal is most of the US, yet I can gamble at these sites all day long, and I often do. I am breaking the law by doing this, but UltimateBet.com is not violating any laws, and congress has ZERO authority to attempt a prosecution against them as they are FOREIGN companies

Does Congress have the authority to regulate US-based porn providers?
92 posted on 07/13/2004 11:17:01 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thank you for admitting that you support legalizing prostitution.

No problem. I, unlike many, have no problem stating publicly and clearly what I support.

Of course you cannot sell your own organs, and this proves that your body is not your property.

If not my property, who owns my body?

We conservatives are going to fix the problem of mass baby-killing you social liberals are so fond of too

Well, I hope so, as I am Pro-Life.

93 posted on 07/13/2004 11:17:08 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
porn has been around since the beginning of man

So has "the world's oldest profession."

So has murder.

And of those three things, the only one that hurts unwilling participants is murder. What's your point?

94 posted on 07/13/2004 11:18:06 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Modernman; Melas
A college girl can have a legal gang-bang tonigh

I love threads like this, I really do.

I prefer the college girl.

95 posted on 07/13/2004 11:18:08 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: raybbr
Porn is not speach. It is a part of commerce. It is a product. It should be treated as such. Until that happens nothing will be done.

1. The meaning of the Phrase "to regulate trade" must be sought in the general use of it, in other words in the objects to which the power was generally understood to be applicable, when the Phrase was inserted in the Constn.

2. The power has been understood and used by all commercial & manufacturing Nations as embracing the object of encouraging manufactures. It is believed that not a single exception can be named.

James Madison to Joseph Cabell

Sept 18, 1878

96 posted on 07/13/2004 11:18:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ( Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Bella_Bru
Get ready for the War on Porn. It's coming along with the War on Abortion when Conservatives take our country back from leftist perverts, whores and pimps.

Let me know when you send your Vice & Virtue squads around, I need to make sure I have enough ammo.

Good luck with that.

97 posted on 07/13/2004 11:18:20 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Poohbah
Please quit changing the subject every time you're proven to be factually wrong.

You proved nothing, you don't know what is or isn't in COPA and I didn't change the subject.

Other than that you were correct in the usage of the word "please".

98 posted on 07/13/2004 11:18:27 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The solution to these ills foisted on us by judicial supremacists is for Congress to exercise its constitutional powers to remove jurisdiction from the federal courts over pornography.

Congress has no such power. It can only remove appellate jusridiction from the Supreme Court, which would result in some lower federal court becoming the court of last resort for the affected cases.

99 posted on 07/13/2004 11:18:32 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: Pietro

You mean the 18th Century British colonies. The stocks and such predate America as a nation. The prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment was written with the stocks in mind. We've never used them as Americans.


100 posted on 07/13/2004 11:18:50 AM PDT by Melas
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