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Author: Al-Qaida Has Nuclear Weapons, Likely Inside U.S.
NewsMax ^ | 7/14/04 | Stewart Stogel

Posted on 07/13/2004 7:11:31 PM PDT by wagglebee

A new book written by a former FBI consultant claims that al-Qaida not only has obtained nuclear devices, but likely has them in the U.S. and will detonate them in the near future.

These chilling allegations appear in "Osama's Revenge: The Next 9/11: What the Media and the Government Haven't Told You," by Paul L. Williams (Prometheus Books).

Williams claims that al-Qaida has been planning a spectacular nuclear attack using six or seven suitcase nuclear bombs that would be detonated simulantaneously against U.S. cities.

"They want the most bang for the buck, and that is nuclear," Williams told NewsMax.

"I expect such an attack would come between now and the end of 2005," the author said.

In addition to writing several books on terrorism, Williams, an investigative journalist, has worked as an FBI consultant.

Williams' contention is not far from what U.S. intelligence believes, a source close to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge has told NewsMax. The source said Ridge claimed that U.S. intelligence believes terrorists already have smuggled into the U.S. actual atomic devices as opposed to so-called “dirty nukes” that simply are conventional bombs that help spread radiation.

The Bush administration has warned for years that terrorists pose a nuclear threat to America.

Williams' book presents a review on the increasing spread of nuclear weapons technology, which the author says can be traced to India's nuclear tests in the early 1970s. It accelerated when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

Shortly after the Indian nuclear tests, Pakistan made an all-out effort to join the nuclear club, the author says. Islamabad received "help" from sympathetic nations, namely China and North Korea.

Williams traces the rampant spread of nuclear bomb development to a leading Pakistani scientist, Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan.

Khan, described as an "Islamic extremist," has also been depicted by former CIA chief George Tenet as "the father of Pakistan's nuclear program."

It is believed the Pakistani gained his expertise while working in the Netherlands, where he allegedly stole technology used in uranium reprocessing, a key procedure for building an atomic bomb.

Pakistan successfully detonated two nuclear weapons inside a northern mountain range in the late 1990s.

Khan, arrested by Pakistani police in February, under White House pressure, admitted selling nuclear technology to numerous foreign countries including North Korea and Libya.

Williams reports that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was investigating Khan at the time he was kidnapped and later killed (2003).

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, fearing a backlash from radical Muslims, granted Khan a pardon but restricted his travels.

According to Williams, another beneficiary of Khan's "contacts" was al-Qaida. The author reports that the U.S. got its first "hard" evidence of a connection when it invaded the Afghan capital of Kabul in 2001.

A former al-Qaida safe house was found to be loaded with documents detailing dealings with the Pakistani scientist.

The finding was so serious, says Williams, that Tenet traveled to Afghanistan and Pakistan to follow up on the discovery.

Tenet: 'They Are Coming'

Perhaps it was such intelligence that led Tenet to say in October 2002: “The threat environment we face is as bad as it was before September 11. It is serious. They have reconstituted. They are coming after us."

Almost from the moment 9/11 happened, the U.S. has been on heightened state of alert and worry over the possible use of nuclear weapons. On the day of the attack, President Bush left Florida and began criss-crossing the country in Air Force One in maneuvers consistent with a president preparing for a nuclear attack.

Shortly after Sept. 11, Taliban leader Mullah Omar claimed to BBC that the main intent of al-Qaida was the “bigger cause,” which he described as the “destruction of America.”

Asked pointed if this meant the use of nuclear weapons againt the U.S., he responded: “This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for God's help. The real matter is the extinction of America. And, God willing, it will fall to the ground.”

Omar cryptically suggested a nuclear plan was already under way at the time of Sept. 11. “The plan is going ahead and, God willing, it is being implemented. But it is a huge task, which is beyond the will and comprehension of human beings. If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time; keep in mind this prediction.”

The Russian Connection

The author points out that the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 only made matters worse:

"The Chechen Mafia reportedly sold twenty nuclear suitcases in Grozny to representatives of Osama bin Laden and the Mujahadeen [in 1996]. For their weapons, bin Laden paid $30 million in cash and two tons of heroin."

Al-Qaida's leader, says Williams, is a major drug producer and runner in Afghanistan.

"It is the drug money, not the bin Laden family fortune, that is the financial engine for al-Qaida," he points out.

Today, Williams says, more than 40 Russian "nuclear suitcases" cannot be accounted for.

The suitcases are miniaturized tactical nuclear bombs (in some cases weighing less than 40 pounds) that were originally planned by the Cold-War-era Kremlin to be detonated inside the U.S. in the event of war.

These bombs were estimated to have an explosive power of between 1-10 kilotons, says Williams.

Most could cause damage equal to or greater than the crude device Washington dropped on Hiroshima during World War II.

The author says some of these weapons still remain stateside in a "sleeper" status controlled by Russian military officials who believe a war with the U.S. "is still possible."

Others, as many as 10, might be under al-Qaida's control, says Williams.

What kind of damage could such a weapon do? The CIA estimates the Russian nuclear suitcases to have an explosive yield approaching 10 kilotons.

Williams, referring to estimates by Theodore Taylor, a prominent American physicist who miniaturized the atomic bomb and visited the site of the World Trade Center in 1993, says a suitcase bomb could "emit intense thermal radiation, creating a fireball with a diameter that would expand to 460 feet. The core of the fireball would reach a maximum temperature of 10 million degrees Celsius ... ." The author says the heat that collapsed the Twin Towers never exceeded 5,000 degrees Celsius.

Had such a bomb been used in 9/11, Williams claims, "The World Trade Center towers, all of Wall Street and the financial district, along with the lower tip of Manhattan up to Gramercy Park and much of midtown, including the theater district, would lay in ruins."

Of those who might survive the blast, 50 percent of the survivors could expect to die at the rate of "250,000 people on any given day," Williams reports.

And how could al-Qaida manage to transport such weapons into the U.S.?

Williams points out that the borders with Mexico and Canada are still dangerously porous and not equipped to detect the smuggling of nuclear materials.

U.S. seaports are even more vulnerable, he argues.

Though New York City would seem to be the No. 1 target of another attack by al-Qaida, Williams points out other U.S. cities have been mentioned in intercepted intelligence chatter.

Among those discussed: Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, Miami, Washington and Rappahannock County, Va.

Why a small rural county in Virginia? Williams says it houses the underground command center the White House would use in time of war.

He hastens to add that time "may not be on our side."

"It was eight years between the World Trade Center attacks. Islam preaches patience. They will attack when they want," Williams concluded.

More chilling was the response from the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog.

One official, speaking on background told NewsMax: "We have no comment. It is not within our responsibility to track atomic bombs."


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If this is true, it is very disturbing.
1 posted on 07/13/2004 7:11:33 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Let them know that we will nuke all the Arab capitals, and melt Mecca in return. If they want to play that game, we should promise them that we will turn the entire Islamic world into a parking lot.


2 posted on 07/13/2004 7:16:37 PM PDT by Nachum (HATRIOTS = LIBS)
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To: wagglebee
Well, well. I wonder where they might have gotten them from?
3 posted on 07/13/2004 7:17:53 PM PDT by mattdono (To President Reagan: Rest now. Look in on us. Enjoy eternity. I'll see you again some day.)
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To: Nachum
If they want to play that game, we should promise them that we will turn the entire Islamic world into a parking lot.

A glass parking lot.......

4 posted on 07/13/2004 7:18:00 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: wagglebee

There's only one problem with this assertion. If al Qaeda has the nukes here, why haven't they already used them? They gain nothing by delay, and nukes don't have an indefinite shelf life.


5 posted on 07/13/2004 7:18:22 PM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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To: Nachum

I agree, we should let all the jihadist know that we have nukes in the region and can melt the whole area in under 10 minutes.


6 posted on 07/13/2004 7:19:06 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
If Osama bin Laden had any mythical suitcase nukes, not to mention 80 of them, September 11, 2001 would have been a nuclear attack on the World Trade Center, but it wasn't.

What does that tell you?

7 posted on 07/13/2004 7:19:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: wagglebee

an organization who needs to hijack the weapons they use, or whose technologiocal sophistication involves truck and suicide bombs, or who sent their dirty bomber Padilla to gather hospital waste for material - doesn't have 20 pre-positioned nuclear weapons. It just doesn't line up.


8 posted on 07/13/2004 7:20:16 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: wagglebee

9 posted on 07/13/2004 7:20:24 PM PDT by Petronski (Twenty-nine Helens agree: Promptness is very important.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree, he would have used them on 9/11, but you never know what he could have acquired since then.


10 posted on 07/13/2004 7:20:45 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

"If Osama bin Laden had any mythical suitcase nukes, not to mention 80 of them, September 11, 2001 would have been a nuclear attack on the World Trade Center, but it wasn't.

What does that tell you?"

That hype sells books?


11 posted on 07/13/2004 7:21:00 PM PDT by flashbunny (Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: wagglebee

Last thread on this subject, a total of 653 posts, was pulled because some people turned it into a flame war.


12 posted on 07/13/2004 7:21:03 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: wagglebee

BS

If they had them in the US they would have used them.


13 posted on 07/13/2004 7:22:03 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: wagglebee
If they had them, they would have used them already. For propagandist efforts, it would have been synchronized with some uprising in Iraq or some more spectacular terrorism incident in saudi sandpit. Besides, sitting on them for a long time would be dangerous, both for the custodial staff (small nuke would not have much shielding, so they would likely not enjoy robust health from the long contact and handling), and for the organization (risk of discovery, or the nukes deteriorating). So, IMHO, the story is BS.
14 posted on 07/13/2004 7:22:07 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Joe Bonforte
...They gain nothing by delay,...

Exactly. If you're Al Qaeda and your network is being decimated daily, your comrades are being questioned in Gitmo and elsewhere, how long do you think it will be before the Yanks find you or your nukes?

Logic would dictate that you use 'em before you lose 'em.

15 posted on 07/13/2004 7:22:27 PM PDT by FReepaholic (My other tagline is hilarious.)
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To: Joe Bonforte
And if they really have nukes, why haven't they tested one? How can they be sure they will work? If the Russians, Americans, Chinese etc. must test theirs with all their technology, why not the mad mullahs?

If they really do, they are playing with extinction. There are unfortunately, precedents.

16 posted on 07/13/2004 7:22:31 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: wagglebee
I agree, he would have used them on 9/11, but you never know what he could have acquired since then.

IMHO, and it is only my opinion, the only thing he aquired, since December of that same year, was his body assuming room temperature......

17 posted on 07/13/2004 7:23:46 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: wagglebee
Several different threads about Williams and his book have been posted on FR in the last week or so.

It is interesting the number of post responses that say the guy is a kook and the threat is overblown (Sounds sort of like Kerry, doesn't it).

This is new:

Ridge claimed that U.S. intelligence believes terrorists already have smuggled into the U.S. actual atomic devices

That is frightening.
18 posted on 07/13/2004 7:24:01 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: wagglebee
I'm not buying this. If Al-Qaeda has been able to obtain nukes post 9-11, then they certainly could have obtained nukes pre 9-11. In fact, it would have been easier for them to obtain nuclear weapons pre 9-11 since the whole world had its guard down.

But if you were Al Qaeda and you had nukes on 9-11 why would you fool around with hijacked airliners? Wouldn't you just go for a knock-out blow with your nukes? Nope, the nuke story does not add up for me.

But I would be interested in other Freeper's thoughts on the matter.

19 posted on 07/13/2004 7:24:11 PM PDT by trek
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To: The_Media_never_lie

well, everything else aside. the technology used to detonate the bomb dropped on hiroshima was not tested. it was the nagasaki bomb that was tested.


20 posted on 07/13/2004 7:24:27 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: wagglebee

Another 'boogey man' under the bed book. Let's raise the 'threat alert' to red - now!!!

If the author knows so damn much about these nukes - he could at least tell us where they are.

15 minutes of fame alert!!!


21 posted on 07/13/2004 7:24:55 PM PDT by familyofman (and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping)
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To: Nachum
Let them know that we will nuke all the Arab capitals, and melt Mecca in return.

Won't happen. Let them know there is no target in the Muslim world worth a nuke.

22 posted on 07/13/2004 7:25:05 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: TomGuy

when did Ridge say that?


23 posted on 07/13/2004 7:25:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: wagglebee
I think mutually assured deterrence will work for these people as it had for the Russkies.

They know that if they nuke us not one of their mothers, fathers, daughters or sons will escape a Made in the USA mideast holocaust.

24 posted on 07/13/2004 7:25:54 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: wagglebee

If al Qaeda has a nuke in the US, you will know it on the same day it arrives. It'll make a big bang. They aren't going to keep it hidden in someone's garage for months.


25 posted on 07/13/2004 7:28:07 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: wagglebee

Yes, it is true and disturbing.

From a different source, I heard that they obtained nukes from Ukraine. Perhaps both sources are correct.

This guy is saying the truth. Also, I urge that you check out the following sites to learn how you can prepare for a nuclear terrorist attack: http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/family/disaster-guide/nuclear.htm and http://www.unitedshadeofswords.com/nuke.html


26 posted on 07/13/2004 7:28:33 PM PDT by atcoalition
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To: wagglebee

This is probably bunk, as the terrorists would have used the nukes already to provoke the all-out war they want between the West and Islam if they had them.


That being said, if the Islamofascists nuke us we should respond with a carefully measured punative strike. And then send in the Army Corps of Engineers to drill for oil on the fused silica parking lot that's left of the Islamic world.


27 posted on 07/13/2004 7:29:02 PM PDT by calenel (Peace Through Strength, and when necessary, Peace Through Victory!)
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To: Joe Bonforte
"There's only one problem with this assertion. If al Qaeda has the nukes here, why haven't they already used them?"

Exactly. The article says they purchased 20 devices in 1996 yet they chose to use hijacked airplanes on Sept. 11, 2001?

28 posted on 07/13/2004 7:29:57 PM PDT by Boss_Jim_Gettys (I am a Republican attack dog.)
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To: wagglebee
If this is true, it is very disturbing.

No kidding.

29 posted on 07/13/2004 7:30:20 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Hair? Ya wanna talk about hair? President REAGAN had a NICE head of hair!!)
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To: wagglebee
TO you Americans who might vote for Kerry:

My crystal ball is Israel, Suicide bombings started slowly over the years, killing a few, it quickly deteriorated, and each time wanting to match or exceed the previous rampage.
The government finally cut the head of the snake, now the terrorists are in panic mode and less organized. There are leftists in Israel that are like those in America, except after years of Terror the Israelis are finally starting to come together (not all, but they are not as evenly divided)


Just as the Israelis left Lebanon with their tails between their legs, the Terrorism started in Israel. The Liberals in your country has shown the world that Americans are divided.
I believe that Americans will be hit again, wanting to exceed the previous 911 attack in terms of damage.
HOW MANY MORE 911's MUST IT TAKE for Americans to UNIT and show the WORLD that if you kill ONE AMERICAN YOU will deal with ALL AMERICANS??????
30 posted on 07/13/2004 7:30:32 PM PDT by forAmericasFutureVoteBush (Hold on please, I have to go to the toilette and take a Kerry.)
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To: oceanview

I heard Osama actually has 20 paper bags of sh$t that he plans on setting on fire and leaving on the front doorstep of the White House.


31 posted on 07/13/2004 7:30:38 PM PDT by mlbford2 (Sorry for spelling errors, I'm a product of a state university)
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To: oceanview

I'm still amazed by the fact that we had the bomb in 1945. In 60 years, a relatively small number of nations have been able to even develop ONE weapon. Same goes for television guided weapons in the 40's. Astounding what we were able to do then.

That being said, if you can't build one, stealing one or paying for one is a good substitute.

I don't buy this guy though.


32 posted on 07/13/2004 7:31:31 PM PDT by HRoarke (F. John Kerry--Can you trust a man who picks his running mate from the back of the phone book?)
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To: oceanview

I don't know when Ridge said that. I saw that comment about Ridge quoted in this article. That was the first time in all the 'nuke' threads that I saw Ridge mentioned. NewsMax is the first to report that Ridge thinks 'devices' have already been brought in.


33 posted on 07/13/2004 7:33:23 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Joe Bonforte
Agree..for more info go to:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/23/MNG8D5PM7L1.DTL

34 posted on 07/13/2004 7:33:37 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Joe Bonforte
" They gain nothing by delay, and nukes don't have an indefinite shelf life."

Maybe that's the cause of the delay. They had to figure out how to 'refresh?' them.

35 posted on 07/13/2004 7:33:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: TomGuy
That is frightening.

No, it isn't. It is tiresome. We have been living with much worse that that for 50 years.

36 posted on 07/13/2004 7:34:05 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: finnman69

AUTHOR: I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN...MISS LEWINSKY.

About as credible...


37 posted on 07/13/2004 7:35:23 PM PDT by HRoarke (F. John Kerry--Can you trust a man who picks his running mate from the back of the phone book?)
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To: TomGuy

when Ridge moves his family out of DC, and when Tenet takes his family to Montana, and all the rest do the same - i'll be worried.

can you imagine how big the "tip loop" would be for this, if some credible source close to Ridge had leaked this, how many people would know about it? they aren't just going to sit around waiting for them to go off.


38 posted on 07/13/2004 7:36:02 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: mlbford2
I heard Osama actually has 20 paper bags of sh$t that he plans on setting on fire and leaving on the front doorstep of the White House.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

39 posted on 07/13/2004 7:36:32 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: All

If someone had described the potential of what actually happened on 9/11/01, before that date, to those of you doubting this author,what would your thoughts have been?


40 posted on 07/13/2004 7:38:08 PM PDT by John W
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To: wagglebee
Here's an editorial review online at Amazon.com Even so, I do have my radiation sickness pills ready.

From Publishers Weekly The plot outlined in this lurid exposé is a frightening one: Osama bin Laden has nuclear weapons—lots of them—and is preparing to use them to create "an American Hiroshima." Williams, a journalist, former FBI consultant and author of The Vatican Exposed: Money, Murder and the Mafia, contends that bin Laden has purchased of dozens low-yield Russian "suitcase" atomic bombs and gotten his hands on enough weapons-grade uranium to build Hiroshima-sized 10-kiloton devices, and that one nuclear device may already have been smuggled into America. Contrary to the subtitle, Williams relies heavily on media reports to flesh out the arch-terrorist’s nuclear intrigues, detailing bin Laden’s lucrative heroin trafficking operations, his ties to the Chechen mafia and to Pakistani nuclear scientists, and his network of thousands of sleeper agents in the United States. He criticizes the Clinton and Bush administrations for inept attempts to apprehend bin Laden, but offers little advice on what to do. As if to heighten readers’ anxiety, Clark reprints several al-Qaeda manifestoes calling down destruction on America and includes a lengthy treatise on the devastation an atom bomb would wreak on lower Manhattan. He doesn’t tie up all the loose ends in this hasty treatment; on the question of why, if it has nukes, al-Qaeda hasn’t yet used them, he can only assume that bin Laden is patiently awaiting the perfect moment for a multiple-target strike. But after 9/11, alarmist scenarios have to be taken seriously, and the disquieting evidence Clark has amassed provides a useful reminder of the gravest threat in the war on terror. Photos Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

41 posted on 07/13/2004 7:38:50 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: Brilliant
If al Qaeda has a nuke in the US, you will know it on the same day it arrives. It'll make a big bang. They aren't going to keep it hidden in someone's garage for months.

That depends on the stakes and the purpose.

I can see a plan might want to get a few in strategic places. That would take a while. Then wait until a strategic time to blackmail and threaten. Maybe something as significant as the Nov election. Dirty bomb a small city a week before the election and threaten to set of 4 or 5 or 10 more in various cities if GWB is re-elected.

It took them over 5 years to plan 9-11, and they did that with box cutters. Give them some credit. Their minions may be a few bricks shy of a load, but the al-Qaeda planners aren't stupid. Many are PhD's trained at our own universities.
42 posted on 07/13/2004 7:38:53 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: John W

considering that the Bojinka information was known before 9-11, for those that knew that, the hijacking of planes to use as weapons was not an "out of this world" idea.


43 posted on 07/13/2004 7:40:56 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: TomGuy

If they try that technique we will see how quickly we can search every building in the country and it won't be Hans Blix running the show.


44 posted on 07/13/2004 7:42:11 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: wagglebee
Anti-Terror Coalition Urges Nuclear Preparedness
      Posted by atcoalition
On 07/13/2004 9:23:14 PM CDT with 2 comments


Johnny P News ^ | July 13, 2004 | John S. Pappas
Anti-Terror Coalition Urges Nuclear PreparednessSites "Internet Chatter" As Rationale for Recommendation by John S. PappasWashington - 07/13/04Sighting "chilling" Internet chatter within the past few days, cyber-terror watchdog group Anti-Terrorism Coalition (http://atci.showsit.info/) is recommending that Americans familiarize themselves with information on dealing with a nuclear attack.The ATC is sighting recent Internet chatter as cause for their recommendation that people study the procedures for dealing with a nuclear or radiological attack. One threat in particular, posted on a message group believed to be operated by al Qaeda sympathizers contained a specific threat of nuclear/radiological attack against America. The message announced July 14th

45 posted on 07/13/2004 7:43:38 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Nachum
Let them know that we will nuke all the Arab capitals, and melt Mecca in return

And Medina, Oom and the several dozen other "holy cities", particularly those of particular significance to the Wahabies. For Jerusalem, a couple of LGBs to the Mosque that sits on the Temple Mount will have to suffice. Then the Israelis can build whatever they like upon the ruins.

46 posted on 07/13/2004 7:44:20 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: TomGuy

dirty bombs are different, this is not what the author is talking about if he is referring to true nuclear weapons.


47 posted on 07/13/2004 7:44:38 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: mattdono; All

Vladivostok - and yes the story is for the most part true although several key details are missing.


48 posted on 07/13/2004 7:46:01 PM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Joe Bonforte
If al Qaeda has the nukes here, why haven't they already used them? They gain nothing by delay,

Can you say October Surprise? Hoping for the Spanish effect writ large, very large.

49 posted on 07/13/2004 7:46:01 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Nachum

The entire Islamic world is all over the world. Are you shooting for a nuclear winter?


50 posted on 07/13/2004 7:46:32 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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