Skip to comments.Senate Scuttles Gay Marriage Amendment (Two no-shows. Care to guess?)
Posted on 07/14/2004 9:50:28 AM PDT by 11th Earl of MarEdited on 07/14/2004 10:13:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Most Americans really don't care much about this issue.
It only directly affects those who are gay. I doubt the constitution will ever be changed for this purpose. Nor should it IMO.
No, but you are, Senator. Overripe, in fact.
The 52 Senators do NOT represent majority opinion on this subject. It bears repeating the elected representatives of the people can sometimes vote opposite to their desires. I do know for a fact if this measure were brought to a nationwide vote of the people, it would pass in a heartbeat. In a way I am pleased the N0-SHOWS (we know who they are) were just too cowardly to tell us where they stood on the most important issue of our time.
To my recollection, Hagel voted yes, McCain no.
On the other hand, you personally attacked me.
Oh well, we had some nasty losses before we got to the Battle of Midway.
Eagles still up.
Disgusting. These two are beneath contempt.
IIRC, that was due to Rove's machinations on behalf of W's re-election, W's sense of loyalty to Specter, and the re-registration of union members solely to interfere in the pubbie primary. That was quite a convergence, and it's no reason to give up in dispair. The last enduring, successful third party resulted from a momentous issue about 150 years ago.
Congress cannot remove "federal" appellate jurisdiction. It can only constrain the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court (which would have the effect of making the circuit court the "court of last resort" setting the binding precedents for each district).
You're wrong. We are all born into the family. Its fate affects all of us regardless of whether we never marry and for those of us who do, it affects the health of our relationships and the welfare of our children. When the American people have the opportunity to affirm marriage, they have done so over the opposition or ignorance of our elites. The Senate may be closely divided on this issue but the vast majority of the American people know we need to preserve and strengthen it for posterity.
how are you going to keep it out of the public schools? once gay marriage is as legal as the marriages we have today, how are you going to stop gay activitists and the courts from forcing public schools to adopt this as part of the curriculum? can you imagine taking young children, who have not formed their own sense of reality on this topic due to their age and maturity level - from being taught that Eddie marrying Bobby is the same as Eddie marrying Susie?
Make that "womyn."
It is already too late. My 24 y/o staunchly Republican, Bush supporting, Rep. precinct chairperson niece and her 22 y/o staunchly Republican, poll working brother proclaimed to the whole family on Thanksgiving that they could care less if two guys or two women get married.
That certainly sounds closer to what I've seen in the polls.
Scuttle is a bad turn of words, it can be brought up again.
Particularly with a SENATOR DITAKA!
Well, I am worried the approach is " we tried, but it's impossible given the numbers.'' The longer Republicans fumble, the more the public will come to believe it's something they have to accept, whether the like it personally or not. That's the way it works.
SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG HERE....
THE TWO NO-SHOW SENATE VOTES JUST NOW ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE WERE....****KERRY AND EDWARDS**** (???)
He showed up and didn't vote?????
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