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Just say no to driver's licenses for illegal aliens
North County Times ^ | June 14, 2004 | Mark Wyland

Posted on 07/14/2004 4:11:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Last year, liberals who dominate the state Legislature passed a bill giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. This bill was signed into law by then Gov. Gray Davis, who was facing a recall election. The public was outraged. Republican candidates for governor promised to roll back the illegal driver's license bill if one of them were to be elected governor.

In the wake of the recall election, the new governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, made it clear that he intended to live up to his campaign pledge.

Shell-shocked by the recall election results, and a gathering referendum drive to repeal the law, legislative liberals feared additional public outrage over the illegal driver's license issue. They agreed to cooperate with Republican members and roll back the law. However, they pledged to bring the issue up again in the future.

Now the liberals and illegal alien advocates are at it again. The latest illegal alien driver's license bill has been described as a requirement before liberals will vote for a budget, and touted as a "sensible and pragmatic" solution to the problem of illegal immigrants driving without licenses.

Nothing could be further from the truth. It is neither "sensible" nor "pragmatic" to issue driver's licenses to individuals who have broken our nation's laws by illegally entering California. One of the so-called "sensible" measures in this legislation is a requirement that an illegal alien applying for a California driver's license admit to being here illegally. One would think that this admission of illegal status would be enough to deport the illegal alien, but instead it rewards him with California's official identification.

One suggested provision prohibits the Department of Motor Vehicles and the Department of Justice from sharing information on these illegal aliens with other law enforcement agencies. We are at war with an enemy who has used our lax identification procedures to murder innocent Americans, but this bill would instead bend over backward to make sure the privacy (and background) of illegal aliens being issued our main identification document is protected.

There is another, more rational way to solve the problem of illegal aliens on our roads and freeways. If a driver is determined by law enforcement to be an illegal alien, the Immigration and Naturalization Service should be immediately contacted and the individual deported. The long-term solution to this problem is to exercise real control over our borders to stop the flow of illegal immigrants. In the meantime, we should not give in to the pressure of granting licenses to those here illegally.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; cedillo; driverslicenses; gilcedillo; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; sb1160
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1 posted on 07/14/2004 4:11:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Just say no to driver's licenses for illegal aliens

The fact that this is even treated like a legitimate issue by our elected officials tells me that America is going insane.

2 posted on 07/14/2004 4:18:15 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Unbelievable!

But then again, common sense never registers with liberals.
Never a part of who liberals are. Moving the ball forever forward, advancing the cause, the outcome, is the mindset of these ilk.


3 posted on 07/14/2004 4:24:23 PM PDT by BluSky (“Don’t make me come down there.”)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

From this and other posts the North County Times sure has a lot of cajones!!!


4 posted on 07/14/2004 4:25:31 PM PDT by mkj6080
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Illegal aliens should be deported right away. They are all criminals, many of the worst kind. I agree there should not even be a discussion of dirver's licenses for them. The answer is a clear NO.


5 posted on 07/14/2004 4:26:21 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Why how dare you oppose giving licenses to hard working migrants in the Americas, you isolationist, restrictionist, nativist, meanie!

don't you know we must worship whatever Arnie does? He DOES have an R after his name, after all. what's wrong with you? are you some sort of an extremist?

;-)
(hee hee. sorry just thought i'd get that out of the way before someone else got a chance to post it.)

All hail the R party! :-)


Party Before Principle®

6 posted on 07/14/2004 4:27:06 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: Tailgunner Joe; He Rides A White Horse
Have no fear, if by some freak occurrence the drivers license for illegals bill should pass and Ahnold should sign the bill; we are prepared to start a petition drive for a referendum to reverse the law and before the ink dries on the bill we will have a recall petition for our dear governor at the printer's!!! We recalled one moronic governor, we can recall another one!

Those of us who live, work & pay taxes in CA have learned that we are going to have to run this state by referendum and recall since the morons in Sacramento appear to have not gotten the message yet!!!
7 posted on 07/14/2004 4:27:58 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

With the way Arnold is really struggling with the budget, he has shown the backbone of a snail, I hope he does not get rolled on the Drivers license too.

Remember the Demos want some Republicans to vote for this so it can pass with 2/3s majority and be immune from a petition to revoke the law. Keep the pressure up on wobbly Republicans.


8 posted on 07/14/2004 4:28:42 PM PDT by mkj6080
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To: MindFire
Party Before Principle®

LOL

Why how dare you oppose giving licenses to hard working migrants in the Americas, you isolationist, restrictionist, nativist, meanie!

You forgot jingoistic, xenophobic, racist pig.

9 posted on 07/14/2004 4:31:03 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: He Rides A White Horse

What is it with California anyway????


10 posted on 07/14/2004 4:33:20 PM PDT by ar15girl
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..

ping


11 posted on 07/14/2004 4:36:12 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: kellynla
And who would you suggest run against him? I don't think I'd support a recall of Arnie on this issue. The foremost reason being because he never SAID he opposed licenses for illegals. He was clear all along, as i'm sure you know, that he only opposed the specifics of SB60 and Cedillos newest bill. in theory he has never been against rewarding illegal aliens - not just with licenses, but in many different ways.. education, etc.

As much as I oppose this RINO, i have to admit he did not lie to the people on this issue. The mesmerized sheep who voted for this clearly leftist fraud deserve exactly what they get. Bush/Kerry has pledged to sign FTAA is January anyway, so this license is the least of our worries.

12 posted on 07/14/2004 4:37:42 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: Tailgunner Joe; calcowgirl; Amerigomag; SierraWasp; RonDog; CounterCounterCulture; ambrose; ...
The latest illegal alien driver's license bill has been described as a requirement before liberals will vote for a budget, and touted as a "sensible and pragmatic" solution to the problem of illegal immigrants driving without licenses.

Check.

13 posted on 07/14/2004 4:44:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly gutless.)
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To: BluSky
But then again, common sense never registers with liberals.

It's not only the liberals at work. Most of the conservatives are afraid to speak up because they're afraid they'll lose votes... Arnold is supposed to be a conservative, but it appears that he's caving in to the hispanic lobby.

14 posted on 07/14/2004 4:45:17 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: ar15girl
What is it with California anyway????

It is no longer California, it is now Mexifornia.

15 posted on 07/14/2004 4:47:16 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If a driver is determined by law enforcement to be an illegal alien, the Immigration and Naturalization Service should be immediately contacted and the individual deported.

Not only deported, but deported ON FOOT.

16 posted on 07/14/2004 4:48:27 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Theresa or Edwards? Which is the true beard?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

UnFriggenBelievable!


17 posted on 07/14/2004 4:48:47 PM PDT by Arpege92 (Moore is so fat that when he hauls a$$ it takes two trips - tractorman!)
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To: MindFire
As much as I oppose this RINO, i have to admit he did not lie to the people on this issue.

You have a mighty low threshold for what you call a lie.

Arnold knew damned well that when he said he would repeal SB60 the general public believed that he was against drivers' licenses for illegals. He also knew he would not have been elected had he made that distinction clear. Thus he chose those words in order to promulgate a false public impression.

That's not only dishonest, it's the worst kind of conniving lie, one created and repeated with malice, premeditation, and a pre-planned excuse.

18 posted on 07/14/2004 4:49:29 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly gutless.)
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To: ar15girl
What is it with California anyway????

If memory serves, California would be the 14th state to grant licenses to illegals. (AK, CT, ID, LA, MT, NV, NM, NC, RI, TN, UT, WA, WV)

What's up with these states?

19 posted on 07/14/2004 4:58:11 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: ar15girl
What is it with California anyway????

Other states already have licenses for illegals, California just gets more recognition because it's the state everyone loves to hate...Even some self loathing types who actually live here.

20 posted on 07/14/2004 5:00:47 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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