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Military Draft- Rumors or Reality?
7-15-2004 | Susannah

Posted on 07/15/2004 12:54:32 AM PDT by Susannah

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To: John Valentine
Professional Army beats the pants off conscripts anyway

draft is slavery

21 posted on 07/15/2004 1:47:16 AM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: patton

"If a male does not register for the draft by age 26, he becomes an automatic felon, unable to vote.
This has been law since the 70's."

I wasn't aware of this and I've been in California for over 20 years and never heard of any young men in this area registering for the draft.

My son went directly from high school into the Air Force and served in the first Gulf War, but none of his friends registered for the draft.



22 posted on 07/15/2004 1:49:39 AM PDT by Susannah (The world would be unimaginable if FDR had had a Michael Moore and today's leftists.)
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To: Susannah

Selective Service notice. Duh!


23 posted on 07/15/2004 1:57:09 AM PDT by Skwidd (Isolationism Now!)
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To: Susannah

Susannah, they had to have registered with the selective service. If they did not, they cannot get any federal job, get any student loans, and alot of other stuff I can't remember. (It's late) If these guys didn't register with the Selective Service, I am pretty sure they are ineligible to vote and will remain that way.


24 posted on 07/15/2004 1:58:05 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The only persons speaking about it, congressionally, are Charles Rangle D-N.Y. and John Conyers, D-Mich. They are pushing this because they feel there are a disporpotionate number of African-Americans serving now.

That's because Rangle and Conyers wouldn't know a soldier or sailor if one stomped their ass.

25 posted on 07/15/2004 2:00:24 AM PDT by Skwidd (Isolationism Now!)
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To: Susannah
Registration is so simple that many people would do it and then it wouldn't even be thought of again to come up in a conversation.

I bet your son's friends registered.

26 posted on 07/15/2004 2:03:28 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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To: Free Trapper

Well put. Better than I would have put it.


27 posted on 07/15/2004 2:06:16 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: GeronL
If the draft is slavery how do you feel about those soldiers who have served honerably and are being held past their retirement date. I have served for 26 years and am slated to be out the 15th of next month but the Army is forcing me to stay.

How does that square with the other 98 percent of Americans who never lifted a finger to join the armed forces?

Personaly I do not support the draft most likly because I have a 15 year old son, My daughter is already in the Army now, But the talk I hear from everyone is they are leaving the military as soon as the stop loss is over.

28 posted on 07/15/2004 2:06:57 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: Newbomb Turk

Turk, thanks for your response. I know the Army needs people. they are getting them. From recruitments, and sister services, the Army is getting the numbers it needs.

I oppose the draft because I have had some kids who voluteered and then got themselves into trouble. They were a bear to work with and a bear to get seperated. I would not want to have a bunch of whiners under my watch.

A note to Freepers and lurkers.
the US Army is hiring!


29 posted on 07/15/2004 2:16:18 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: GeronL
draft is slavery

Was it slavery in WWI, II, Korea or Vietnam?

Is the WOT as important as, say, WWII?

30 posted on 07/15/2004 2:20:54 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Free Trapper; Jet Jaguar

Some conflicting info on this thread.

For example:

nuggler wrote:
I was born in '59 and didn't have to register for the draft. My brother, who is 4 years younger, did. As I recall, it was the early 80s when the law changed.

(based on nuggler's statement, my son's friends (all born in the late 60's and early 70's, would not have had to register for the draft)



31 posted on 07/15/2004 2:24:30 AM PDT by Susannah (The world would be unimaginable if FDR had had a Michael Moore and today's leftists.)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Volunteer soldiers are the best. Those kept past their retirement date should at least be getting hazard pay and whatever else from the minute they are recalled to the time they are let go. At the LEAST.


32 posted on 07/15/2004 2:25:51 AM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: leadpenny

I don't think they needed the draft in WW2, voluntary enlistments were very high. and it was a World War. They should raise the pay, that might help.


33 posted on 07/15/2004 2:26:56 AM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: GeronL

Think again.


34 posted on 07/15/2004 2:29:40 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Susannah

I think nuggler was refering to the Korean war.
Those born in the late 60's and early 70's were a product of the mindset of the Vietnam war. The selective service, as far as I know, started back up during Carter's time in office.

But, I could be wrong.


35 posted on 07/15/2004 2:30:01 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: GeronL

GeronL, the draft was very neccesary in WWII. The casualties on both sides were extraordinary.

We has a multitude of volunteers, but the draft was a needed tool at that time.


36 posted on 07/15/2004 2:32:57 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
While the Vietnam War was on,at least some deserters were not hunted by the military even when their location was known.

An officer told me once that if a deserter wasn't "too" much of a problem for the community he was hiding out in,then they didn't want to waste their time with the nogood because they were worse than worthless to the military while the War was going and they'd be caught and settled with after the War.

37 posted on 07/15/2004 2:48:34 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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To: Free Trapper

Thanks! I have not heard that before.


38 posted on 07/15/2004 2:50:45 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

BTTT!!!!!!!


39 posted on 07/15/2004 3:03:49 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Jet Jaguar
I doubt that was written policy but probably effective in most situations.

Might have been each Commander's choice as to how to handle 'em.

40 posted on 07/15/2004 3:05:05 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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