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Once Again, U.S. Supreme Court Thinks It Knows Better Than Congress (Child Online Protection Act)
obscenitycrimes.org ^ | July 14, 2004 | Robert Peters

Posted on 07/15/2004 12:26:35 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Phantom Lord
It is best that he and his threads be ignored

Yeah - I know.

I'm just amazed at the number of articles that get posted here about COPA that get even the simplest of facts wrong.

(Not taking into account the various media reports that deliberately mislead and/or lie about the facts).

21 posted on 07/15/2004 1:08:01 PM PDT by gdani (Not ready for human cloning? Get ready.)
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To: dorben
Long Cut said the same thing. He's much too busy to disprove the legal case presented here.

Two down and a handful of far-left radicals to go.

22 posted on 07/15/2004 1:09:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people.")
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To: Phantom Lord

I wish you would ignore these threads because you offer absolutely nothing to the discussion except promoting your favorite porn website.


23 posted on 07/15/2004 1:11:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
No one suggested they are equal. Obscene material is offered as an example of harmful material.

Do you know what "i.e." means? Apparently you don't. The author's reference is either a deliberate attempt to mislead or he is just stupid. Or both.

"Harmful to minors" is much vaguer than "sex materials"

Exactly. Which is why COPA keeps losing at every court level.

24 posted on 07/15/2004 1:13:12 PM PDT by gdani (Not ready for human cloning? Get ready.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I wish you would ignore these threads because you offer absolutely nothing to the discussion except promoting your favorite porn website.

Actually Joe, you wish I would ignore them because I am very efficeint at exposing your LIES and decemating your arguments.

So, I will ask again. You contend, as fact that porn is ILLEGAL. How can Vivid Entertainment, one of the largest producers and distributors of porn on the planet be traded on the NYSE if its business is ILLEGAL?

25 posted on 07/15/2004 1:15:36 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: dorben; Tailgunner Joe; All
Sure thing, Dorben. And for everyone else, here's the links to TJ's previous floggings on this topic, to use when he tries to declare "victory" again, like he just did...

FLOGGING # 1

FLOGGING # 2

And, for those just joining us, despite the misdirections and strawmen of the theocrats and fanatics you'll shortly see, we are once again discussing LEGAL, MAINSTREAM PORNOGRAPHY, produced and consumed by consenting adults, often in the privacy of their own homes. NO ONE in these debates has suggested that kiddie porn, bestiality porn, or coerced and forced porn should ever be legal or anything other than the abominations they are.

26 posted on 07/15/2004 1:16:49 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Long Cut said the same thing. He's much too busy to disprove the legal case presented here.

Long Cut need not disprove it. The Supreme Court did.

27 posted on 07/15/2004 1:18:00 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord

When did I say that porn is illegal?


28 posted on 07/15/2004 1:20:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Phantom Lord
When did I say that porn is illegal?

To: Melas

Filming an act of prostitution doesn't make it legal.

40 posted on 07/13/2004 12:59:13 PM CDT by Tailgunner Joe

29 posted on 07/15/2004 1:23:19 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When did I say that porn is illegal?

Have you or have you not said that producing porn is a criminal act and those who view it are accesories to the crime?

And is a crime an illegal act?

30 posted on 07/15/2004 1:23:33 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: gdani
I think the author probably meant to us the abbreviation "e.g."

The abbreviation i.e. (i.e., that is) is often confused with other abbreviations (e.g., e.g.). The i.e. generally is used to introduce matter that is explanatory as opposed to being the name of an example or list of examples. If you can say for example as a substitute for the abbreviation, you want to use e.g., not i.e. - SOURCE

In any case, it's a minor mistake.
31 posted on 07/15/2004 1:23:56 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Phantom Lord
When did I say that porn is illegal?

To: Servant of the 9; Bella_Bru; Jim Pelosi; ServesURight; Modernman; Melas; jwalsh07; ...

Pornography is nothing but filmed prostitution. It should be completely banned.

Those who purchase, distribute or recieve pornography are aiding and abetting a crime.

All pornography should be siezed as contraband and destroyed once it is no longer needed as evidence.

22 posted on 07/13/2004 12:48:19 PM CDT by Tailgunner Joe

32 posted on 07/15/2004 1:25:47 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When did I say that porn is illegal?

"Porn is nothing but filmed prostitution. Watching it makes you an accessory to a crime." -- Tailgunner Joe

from post #174 from "The Pornography Plague" thread.

33 posted on 07/15/2004 1:26:41 PM PDT by gdani (Not ready for human cloning? Get ready.)
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To: malakhi
Indeed, I have claimed that the act of creating pornography can be prosecuted as prostitution and I stand by that assertion.

My position on the distribution and possession of the filmed criminal acts are that they should be illegal.

Furthermore, there is nothing in the First Amendment which would render such a law unconstitutional, since obscene material is not protected by the First Amendment.

34 posted on 07/15/2004 1:27:26 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Again, how can companies who make porn, if it is ILLEGAL as YOU contend be traded on NYSE?

Or, after 3 days of kicking your teeth kicked in are you ready to admit that there is nothing illegal about producing, distributing, and owning porn?

35 posted on 07/15/2004 1:29:05 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Phantom Lord
When did I say that porn is illegal?

To: Poohbah

There's nothing new about the government's power to ban pornography.

If you read the article you'd know that obscene material is already illegal, but the law is not being enforced because of the moral breakdown in society caused by the left's immoral relativity.

82 posted on 07/14/2004 10:46:37 AM CDT by Tailgunner Joe

36 posted on 07/15/2004 1:29:08 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Two down and a handful of far-left radicals to go. Let me fix that unnatural bend that you seem to have .. " Two down and a handful of far right freedom loving citizens to go " . What you fail to see TJ is that I am as diligent as you are . You are not on my scope of interest today . I've given your team far to much of my time over the last 2-3 days .

As in the 3-D world you elitist thought control types amuse me . I admit that but fear not my friend . I suspect you and I shall cross each other soon enough .

37 posted on 07/15/2004 1:29:45 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I think the author probably meant to us the abbreviation "e.g."

In any case, it's a minor mistake

Ah, yes. Totally misrepresenting or lying about what the statute says for the sake of propping up a losing argument is just a "minor mistake".

And you never said porn was illegal.

What other lessons are you taking from Bill Clinton?

38 posted on 07/15/2004 1:29:59 PM PDT by gdani (Not ready for human cloning? Get ready.)
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To: gdani

I'm jumping in the shower!


39 posted on 07/15/2004 1:31:13 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord; gdani
I believe you could be charged with aiding and abetting the crime of prostitution for accepting or distributing porn.

The fact that this does not occur is not because it is not a crime, but that the law is not being enforced.

40 posted on 07/15/2004 1:32:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people.")
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