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Hawking Changes His Mind on the Nature of Black Holes
Associated Press ^ | Jul 15, 2004 | Jane Wardell

Posted on 07/15/2004 8:30:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

LONDON (AP) - After almost 30 years of arguing that a black hole swallows up everything that falls into it, astrophysicist Stephen Hawking backpedaled Thursday. In doing so, he lost one of the most famous bets in recent scientific history.

The world-famous author of a "Brief History of Time" said he and other scientists had gotten it wrong - the galactic traps may in fact allow information to escape.

"I've been thinking about this problem for the last 30 years, and I think I now have the answer to it," Hawking told the British Broadcasting Corp.'s "Newsnight" program.

"A black hole only appears to form but later opens up and releases information about what fell inside. So we can be sure of the past and predict the future."

(Excerpt) Read more at ap.tbo.com ...


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To: .cnI redruM

I tell ya... :-)....I've studied exterior ballistics to a degree (for small arms) in the past, and I've ALWAYS been just slightly skeptical about how the differences are measured with things like "light bending" as opposed to more measureable (slower) things like projectiles traveling through a medium.

...actually, it makes my head spin to think about this whole blackhole issue. Interesting yes!....but strange stuff indeed. :-)

But what you said about the path looking curved reminded me of some of what I've studied in ballistics. Good point :-)


21 posted on 07/15/2004 9:03:33 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Jet Jaguar

"changes his mind" - since it is all speculation anyway, what difference does it make?


22 posted on 07/15/2004 9:10:18 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Oh wow...thanks :-)...I've got them up now in seperate windows in Opera (my WWW browser), but will have to read them later. If I don't go to bed, I'm gonna turn into a toad! :-)


23 posted on 07/15/2004 9:12:22 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: LiteKeeper
since it is all speculation anyway, what difference does it make?

Care to cite some references?

24 posted on 07/15/2004 9:12:47 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: hiredhand

You are most welcome! :-)


25 posted on 07/15/2004 9:13:16 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Deb
reality or practical application

It does, though. This stuff is more real than any political theory.

26 posted on 07/15/2004 9:14:55 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The forfeit is an encyclopedia, from which Preskill can recover information at will.

Such creative minds...yet this is the best prize they could come up with for a bet? Boring!!

27 posted on 07/15/2004 9:18:35 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: RadioAstronomer
You are not curious at all how this universe works?

It's turtles all the way down!

/obvious

28 posted on 07/15/2004 9:19:56 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: LiteKeeper
"changes his mind" - since it is all speculation anyway, what difference does it make?

Right now, Paramount/Viacom is panicking, after getting reports of thousands of Star Trek fans throwing their multi-volume DVD episode collections in the garbage due to Hawking changing his mind about space physics.

Meanwhile, Disney has just announced they will re-release their 1978 feature film The Black Hole in a new multi-disc set featuring a text commentary track by Mr. Hawking. Besides that, no it doesn't make much difference.

29 posted on 07/15/2004 9:38:46 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I guess all those long nights of research at the titty bar have paid off. Seriously though, what goes through the mind of a stripper when Stephen Hawking is staring at her with a glazed look in his eyes - "This guy thinks I'm really hot" or "This guy must be pondering the origin of matter in universe."


30 posted on 07/15/2004 9:44:21 PM PDT by azcap
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To: hiredhand

Since you like ballistics, imagine the problems of properly leading a "quantum duck" - you know, that's the one flying along with the "QUARK! QUARK!" call.


31 posted on 07/15/2004 9:46:16 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Not only not curious, but some at times are downright hostile.


32 posted on 07/15/2004 10:17:26 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Jet Jaguar

He is obviously familiar with my Theory of the Brontasaurus.


33 posted on 07/15/2004 10:22:29 PM PDT by PoorMuttly ("BE Reagan !")
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To: Gunslingr3
See the turtle of enormouse girth,
On his back he holds the earth!
34 posted on 07/15/2004 10:23:18 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (Liberals are evidence that Satan is very active in this world)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

Hile, Wordslinger.


35 posted on 07/15/2004 10:26:16 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Euro-American Scum

thankee-sai.


36 posted on 07/15/2004 10:32:01 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (Liberals are evidence that Satan is very active in this world)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I'd like to know how the toaster works.


37 posted on 07/15/2004 11:22:28 PM PDT by Deb (Hey, Sen. Kerry...why the long face?)
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To: RightWhale

I'm just messin' with you guys.


38 posted on 07/15/2004 11:24:58 PM PDT by Deb (Hey, Sen. Kerry...why the long face?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
So we can be sure of the past and predict the future.

Physics never ceases to amaze!

Someone corrected me on the earlier thread about Hawkings latest revelation in regards to the meaning of "information" in quantum physics. Seems I had it wrong. I still don't understand it, but here it DOES seem they're talking about something more than just quantum information (whatever that means, lol!).

39 posted on 07/15/2004 11:44:56 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: hiredhand
...not to bring the wrath of astrophysics afficionados, but (chuckling as I say this) I always fail to see how any of this affects life on this planet in any measureable way
well it doesn't, but then movies don't give any tangiblew good -- knowledge is a worthwhile pursuit in itself -- that's what makes us human
40 posted on 07/15/2004 11:58:43 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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