PLAINTIFF PETTIFOGGER JOHN EDWARD'S 1ST JOB AS KERRY RUNNING MATE: KERRY DEFENSE LAWYER

1 posted on 07/17/2004 10:30:09 PM PDT by Mia T

To: WorkingClassFilth; jla; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Wolverine; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; ...

2 posted on 07/17/2004 10:37:00 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))

3 posted on 07/17/2004 10:40:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)

Was Kerry in Vietnam? Who could have guest.

4 posted on 07/17/2004 10:47:35 PM PDT by Taxbilly

Who could have guessed. It's not easy to guess, for I don't believe he was there more than 4 months and no one ever heard of him until he came home. He used to be a dippy-hippy.

5 posted on 07/17/2004 11:35:53 PM PDT by Gracey (NOT Fonda Kerry and his 9.10 Democrat Party mentality)

To: Mia T; JohnHuang2; MeekOneGOP; shaggy eel

I feel a deep sense of betrayal ....

condemned and maligned the service of Good Men ....

offered aid and comfort to our nation's enemies ....

saw to it that although our Armed Forces lost not one Vietnam Battle that those he served defeated us on the gutless, long-haired, maggot-infested, pot smoking hippy-wastrel infected battlefields at Kent State, at NYU and at UCLA ....

offered our enemies aid and comfort then -- and offers it now ....

requires constant supervision ....

required it then and requires it now -- and has hand picked a predatory, lying, looting, thieving trial liar for the job?

Hand jobbed, more likely.

BUSH/CHENEY by a 10% margin: 44 States -- TWOjohns: 6+DC

You are a brilliant lady, Mia T -- and I salute you!

Blessings -- B A

BUMPping

6 posted on 07/17/2004 11:48:57 PM PDT by Brian Allen (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? -- Galatians 4:16 -- So mote it be!)

Mia - I seem to have to look up a new word every time I listen or read your work - thanks - I never knew what pettifogger meant - now I just have to try and use it in a sentence with someone who will understand the meaning and be impressed ;-)

Truthfully - where in the heck did you ever get that word?

7 posted on 07/18/2004 1:45:41 AM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obfuscation)

To: Mia T; bjcintennessee; PhilDragoo; Kitty Mittens; Nita Nupress

The most disgusting thing about all this is that at least 95% of American voters do not know what all these military men say negatively about Kerry .......... thanks to America's greatest, most diligent enemy, the socialist mainstream media (and their lying brothers in our schools and universities).

This country is no longer a free country when the great majority of people are still being influenced by a Pravda-like mainstream media. If, because of the continual distortions, neglect, and lying of the mainstream media Kerry and his ilk win in November, you can kiss this country goodbye. Personally, I think this country has been missing for a long time already. This country is unrecognizable from the country of the 40's and 50's.

The fact that there has been no truth (to the general public) coming from the mainstream media about events like Flight 800, OKC, Flight 587, Waco, Gorelick's Wall, CFR., etc., etc. tells me that this country is on a fast ride to the end. There are too few MEN in media and government any longer, and consequently goodness is drained from the nation (Michael Savage warned about the danger of a big government/big media cabal about 7 years ago).

If the Dems./media win in November the country may be unretrievably lost. The all-important judgeships will move even more left, class warfare will become even stronger and destructive (it will become even more difficult to ever pass a tax reduction), and sanity will keep disappearing more and more each day. The country will become intolerable to any reasonable, thinking citizen.

The mainstream media is the greatest, most diligent enemy of the country, and because they continue to have the ears of most of the people in the year 2004, the present and future are perilous.

The RNC or a conservative group must come out with a series of ads right before the election for the general public about what these Swift Boat Vets know and think of John Kerry.

8 posted on 07/18/2004 1:58:50 AM PDT by beyond the sea (There's always one to turn and walk away ........ and one who just wants to stay)

To: beyond the sea

"The most disgusting thing about all this is that at least 95% of American voters do not know what all these military men say negatively about Kerry .......... thanks to America's greatest, most diligent enemy, the socialist mainstream media (and their lying brothers in our schools and universities)."

Exactly, they are so confident that most people don't know this, they are running an ad here in Florida where Pretty Boy is saying. . . . ."If you want to know about John sKerry just spend 3 minutes with the men who served with him in Vietnam". . . . . .
IT MAKE THIS OLE VET WANT TO PUKE. . . .

9 posted on 07/18/2004 2:20:40 AM PDT by DeaconRed (NOVEMBER 2, 2004: FLUSH THE JOHNS DAY: It will stink like Cow sheet till the 3rd! ! ! ! !)

To: beyond the sea

Very well-thought-out, articulate, and right-on-target post, Beyond the Sea! Some people, for some reason, tend to underestimate the power over people's minds the Lamestream Media wields; everything they do is to shape public opinion, to change people's perception of things, to make evil seem to be good, and good seem to be evil. Thank God you, and others, see through their distortions and outright lies!

There is NOTHING the demonrats and the traitors in the media will stop at in their mad zeal to secularize and socialize (communize!) this good country! The 'rats must be defeated at all costs, and I pray our Lord to strengthen our Republicans in their battle for the soul and life of this nation!

10 posted on 07/18/2004 2:28:54 AM PDT by Kitty Mittens

To: Voter#537; Mia T

they are running an ad here in Florida where Pretty Boy is saying. . . . ."If you want to know about John Kerry just spend 3 minutes with the men who served with him in Vietnam". . . . . .

Yeh, that ad is everywhere, and it is continuing to fake out most Americans. This old vet is pissed too. ;-)

I hope this is not confusing, but ....... I have often said about the mainstream media today - If there were a terrible earthquake somewhere in South America killing 50,000 people and injuring so many more and the mainstream media did not report it, what would Americans do to try to aid the eathquake victims? Well, nothing of course, because they don't know there are victims to aid.

Well, along the same lines, we have polls now showing that a majority of Americans think the booming economy is in a DOWNTURN - why, because of the mainstream media. They just don't report what they don't want to, and they get away with it.

Same with Kerry and the opinion of Kerry of most Vets in the country. We all hate the bast*rd and what he did. He's a lying sack of sh*t, and the Swift Boat Vets must be heard....... right before the election, in an ad that saturates the country, especially the swing states. The RNC or some conservative group must do this or we lose.

11 posted on 07/18/2004 2:39:15 AM PDT by beyond the sea (There's always one to turn and walk away ........ and one who just wants to stay)

12 posted on 07/18/2004 4:12:14 AM PDT by firewalk

To: beyond the sea

The swift boat vets cannot afford such a campaign. The RNC and Bush-Cheney and any other allied group must saturate the country with these facts. Immediately.

With the 24-hr news cycle, an increasingly ignorant electorate and the conventional media actively pushing for Kerry, no longer even pretending to be objective, Kerry-Edwards disinformation takes root overnight

Where is the Bush-Cheney rapid-response team? Where is the rapid-response effort? Where is the offensive effort that could easily slash the feet from under this goon and his 'mate'?

Where are Bush's and Cheney's drive to win?

Where do Bush and Cheney demonstrate an understanding of the REAL STAKES in this election? (To watch them, one could easily conclude they believe losing is an acceptable option. If Cheney dropping out is what is required to ensure victory, then Cheney must go. If Cheney has any sense of this greater, collective loyalty to America, he will take himself out... (Stay in the adminimstration, but please, leave the ticket.)

The only loyalty relevant to the discussion is loyalty to the presidential oath. Will Bush be preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States if Kerry (and the terrorists) win?,

13 posted on 07/18/2004 6:22:57 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))

I served in Vietnam from September 1968 to September 1969, six months ofwhich was with this honored bunch of people, many of whom are here today.

I signed that letter because I, too, felt a deep sense of betrayal: Someone who took the same oath of loyalty as I did as an officer for the US Navy would abandon his group here to join this group here and come home and attempt to rally the American public against the effort that this group was so valliantly pursuing.

You know, it is a fact that in the entire Vietnam war, we did not lose one major battle. We lost the war at home. And at home, John Kerry was the field general.

Only last week--or two weeks ago I saw on television where, when asked to respond for his support for the Iraq war, he said, "I cannot imagine going to war without the support of the American people. The same man who joined this group to rally the American people against our effort.

This is not the making of a commander in chief.

--Bob Elder

14 posted on 07/18/2004 7:04:52 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))

Here is the ATLA’s Logo …
… these are better:

And from my neck of the woods:

Edwards: "Your mouthwash just ain't cuttin' it!!"

15 posted on 07/18/2004 7:35:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)

REPOST WITH CORRECTIONS + ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY BY KERRY'S SWIFT-BOAT COLLEAGUES:

PLAINTIFF PETTIFOGGER EDWARD'S 1^ST JOB AS KERRY RUNNING MATE:
KERRY DEFENSE LAWYER

by Mia T, 7.17.04

UNFIT! Hear Kerry's Commanders + Crewmates
("Three Minutes" - the REAL "Real Deal")

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"There is no one better prepared to keep the American people safe than this man. And if you have any question what John Kerry is made of, just spend three minutes with the men who served with him 30 years ago who still stand by his side. [Emphasis added.] They saw up close that this man is a leader and he has courage, determination and he would never leave any American behind."

John Edwards
Three Minutes (Kerry ad)
July 2004

KERRY SWIFTBOAT-VET FRAUD!

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"I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States.

This is not a political issue. It is a matter of his judgment, truthfulness, reliability, loyalty and trust all absolute tenets of command. His biography, Tour of Duty , by Douglas Brinkley, is replete with gross exaggerations, distortions of fact, contradictions and slanderous lies. His contempt for the military and authority is evident by even the most casual review of this biography.

He arrived in country with a strong anti-Vietnam War bias and a self-serving determination to build a foundation for his political future.

He was aggressive, but vain and prone to impulsive judgment, often with disregard for specific tactical assignments.

He was a 'loose cannon.'

In an abbreviated tour of four months and 12 days and with his specious medals secured, Lt. J.G. Kerry bugged out of Vietnam and began his infamous betrayal of all US soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen, including our POWs in the Vietnam War. His leadership in the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, his testimony before Congress in 1971, charging us with unspeakable atrocities remain as undocumented but nevertheless malicious stain on the men and women who honorably stayed the course.

Senator Kerry is not fit to command. The real 'brothers' are my shipmates and veterans who reliably and honorably stayed the course."

--Admiral Hoffman, United States Navy

I'm here representing my late father, Admiral Zumwalt and my brother, Lt. J.G. Elmo Zumwalt who was a swift boat commander in Vietnam.

If Lt. Kerry failed to heed the commandments of his military superiors 36 years ago, whom will he heed as president? It surely will not be the electorate who voted him into office.

Senator Kerry has demonstrated a dangerous propensity to slip into multiple personalities depending on the audience he is addressing. This was clear of his Vietnam service and his actions upon returning home. It has been clear as a senator in his actions on various issues related to Iraq.

It is a personality disorder that will endanger America in the event that he is elected president.

-- Lt. Col. Jim Zumwalt, U.S. Marine Corps, retired

I served in '66 and '67 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on swift boats and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour.

The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying..

I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him as third class gunner's mate, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy.

If a man like that can't handle a 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our commander in chief?

--Steve Gardner

I served in Vietnam from September 1968 to September 1969, six months of which was with this honored bunch of people, many of whom are here today.

You know, it is a fact that in the entire Vietnam war, we did not lose one major battle. We lost the war at home. And at home, John Kerry was the field general.

Only last week--or two weeks ago--I saw on television where, when asked to respond for his support for the Iraq war, he said, "I cannot imagine going to war without the support of the American people." The same man who joined this group to rally the American people against our effort.

This is not the making of a commander in chief.

--Bob Elder

I served as an officer in charge of swift boats in Vietnam from June 1969 to June 1970. I think it's extremely important that all of his records be released so that the American people can judge for themselves. That's in part why I'm here today.

My greater concern is for his shameful behavior after returning from only four months in Vietnam to condemn and malign the hundred of thousands of men and women who served their country honorably and that he, by his actions, aided and abetted the very enemy we were sent to Vietnam to defeat.

In my specific experience in both coastal and river patrols over a 12-month period, I never once saw or heard anything remotely resembling the atrocities described by Sen. Kerry.

If I had, then my obligation was to report them in writing to a higher authority and I would certainly have done that. If Sen. Kerry actually witnessed or participated in these atrocities, or as he described them, "war crimes," he was obligated to report them. That he did not until later, when it suited his political purposes strikes me as opportunism of the worst kind.

That he would malign my service and that of his fellow sailors, with no regard to the truth, makes him totally unqualified to serve as commander in chief.

--Jeff Wainscot

MORE STATEMENTS BY KERRY'S COMMANDERS AND CREWMATES
DETAILING THE UNFITNESS AND DANGER OF JOHN KERRY

ymmetry of a plaintive (if not a plaintiff) sort:
Ambulance-chaser extraordinaire, John Edwards' first job as John Kerry's running mate is that of Kerry defense lawyer.

The man who made his millions as a plaintiff's pettifogger should feel right at home on the other side of the aisle. He will doubtless work it with the same syrupy Southern drawl and Southern-belle eye flutter. He will surely continue to confect out of whole cloth his requisite villains and victims, in this case, respectively, Bush/Cheney + the haves, and (notwithstanding Kerry's missus' late husband's billions and Edwards' own multi-millions) Kerry/Edwards + have-nots, i.e., the "two Americas," (although the too "pessimistic" shibboleth, itself, has apparently been stricken from the Edwards script).

In place of the junk science and no less shoddy so-called expert witnesses he regularly employed to sway credulous juries, Edwards will use on an equally credulous subset of the electorate the standard demagogic techniques of the run-of-the-mill (even if "son-of-a-millworker") leftist politico: lies, illogic, sleight of hand and, to make it all go down, a splash of snake oil.

16 posted on 07/18/2004 8:14:37 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))

17 posted on 07/18/2004 8:15:33 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))

To: Mia T; bjcintennessee; PhilDragoo; Kitty Mittens; Nita Nupress

Where is the Bush-Cheney rapid-response team? Where is the rapid-response effort? Where is the offensive effort that could easily slash the feet from under this goon and his 'mate'? Where are Bush's and Cheney's drive to win?

I'm not sure. The only thing I can hold out hope for is this:

GWB: HBS MBA -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070924/posts -- The American Thinker February 3, 2004 | Thomas Lifson

*****

.... "One final note on George W. Bush’s management style and his Harvard Business School background does not derive from the classroom, per se. One feature of life there is that a subculture of poker players exists. Poker is a natural fit with the inclinations, talents, and skills of many future entrepreneurs. A close reading of the odds, combined with the ability to out-psych the opposition, leads to capital accumulation in many fields, aside from the poker table.

By reputation, the President was a very avid and skillful poker player when he was an MBA student. One of the secrets of a successful poker player is to encourage your opponent to bet a lot of chips on a losing hand. This is a pattern of behavior one sees repeatedly in George W. Bush’s political career. He is not one to loudly proclaim his strengths at the beginning of a campaign. Instead, he bides his time, does not respond forcefully, a least at first, to critiques from his enemies, no matter how loud and annoying they get. If anything, this apparent passivity only goads them into making their case more emphatically.

Only time will tell, whether Saddam ever had any WMDs. Their non-existence has not been proven. Only time will tell whether or not Osama bin Laden (or his corpse) will be taken into custody by American Troops. Only time will tell whether or not Iraq will continue to make progress toward a transition toward a peaceful democratic government. George W. Bush knows much more information about these topics than his domestic political opponents do. At the moment, they are betting a lot of their chips on one side of these questions.

We will see by November who has the winning hand.

******

I hope G.W. and the Republicans have cards to play, because as you said very well, they are responding very poorly now. I think Bush has plenty of cards to play........ and is holding them until around the first week of October. I pray he has the cards. If he doesn't this country dies ...... even more than it already has!

Be well, Mia T. You are a luminous star.

The mainstream media is the most destructive force in this country. Each one of those movers and shakers involved in all the deception of the American people deserve an afterlife in the hot spot!

18 posted on 07/18/2004 8:29:12 AM PDT by beyond the sea (There's always one to turn and walk away ........ and one who just wants to stay)

Thanks for another OUTSTANDING article Mia,

19 posted on 07/18/2004 10:09:56 AM PDT by Robert Warren Linville (So proud of Free Republic that I use my real name)

To: Robert Warren Linville; Mia T

Ditto! The nation owes you thanks.

20 posted on 07/18/2004 1:47:08 PM PDT by beyond the sea (There's always one to turn and walk away ........ and one who just wants to stay)

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