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"May 18,1971"--(Evil Exists)
July 18,2004 | redrock

Posted on 07/18/2004 4:55:11 PM PDT by redrock

"May 18,1971"--(Evil Exists)

April 22, 1971 -- John Kerry testifies on behalf of the VVAW before the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs. He claims that American soldiers had "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan..."

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Every action produces a reaction.

It's simple really..........

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You couldn't really call it a village.

I'm not really sure what you would call it. It was just a collection of lean-to's...tents and just plain 'any-spot-in-the-storm-will-do' types of shelters.

It was as if the old people and the young people had walked as far as they could...and it was just the spot that they stopped and tried to put together a reasonable image of their lives. It had water and was somewhat close to a road.

And...it was as far as they could go to get away from the war....and the soldiers of the NVA(North Vietnamese). The same NVA that had driven them away from the highlands of Vietnam. From their homes....from their lives.

That little spot in the road had around 25 people living there...mostly the old but a few young. One of them was pregnant. Luckily,for awhile anyway, a Medical Mission was nearby.

We used to patrol that area around every 3-4 days. Nothing major..just a platoon. The LT. liked to call that patrol his 'breaking-in' for newbies...for those who had just arrived 'in country'. It gave you a feel for the landscape...and it reminded the newbies that altho we were Air Cav....we also were expected to walk to earn our money.

On one patrol..we found out that the Medical Mission had left the area...and the pregnant woman was about to give birth. Being the only person on the patrol to even remotely have Medical training...( I served as a Medic)...I was volunteered by the LT. to help with the birth. One of the really old (ancient comes to mind) women knew about child-birth but was physically unable to help. Since we had a ARVN(South Vietnamese) interpreter along...I became her hands...as long as the ARVN interpreter could keep up.

The child was born into the world on May 15,1971. A little girl...all healthy as could be. We left her in the arms of her proud mother...and finished on with the patrol. (and I got the ribbing of my life about the whole thing...good natured...but it lasted for days).

The NVA activity started to pick up in the area. It seemed as if they thought we wouldn't fight back if we saw them...or came under fire. They started to get a little bolder....as they were sending out lots of patrols into the area around Pleiku..and further south.

On our next patrol into that area...we ran into a NVA patrol. Had a small firefight. Had to only work on a few minor wounds.

Then we came upon the small little spot...where the old and young had stopped to try and live.

The lean-to's were burned....the tents torn. Fire was still burning some of the bigger shacks.

The old and young people had been lined up and made to kneel...where they had had a gun pressed to the back of their heads. I know this is what happened...as each of them had a hole in the backs of their head...one made by a bullet.

The boot marks on the ground (that red dirt that seemed to exist everywhere in Vietnam)...were of standard issue NVA. So...the people who had done this were probably NVA.

I checked all that I could ...looking for even a glimmer of life. There was none.

Then I remembered the young mother....and the baby that I helped to deliver.

I searched the area..(with my back being watched by my Platoon Sgt.)...and came across them a few yards into the bush.

The young mother lay on the ground...and bullet hole in her head and laying in her arms was her baby daughter.

With a bullet hole in her head.

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Evil exists.

I came face-to-face with it on that day in Vietnam.

This is the 3rd time I've talked about that day in 30 plus years. I'm not sure if I can talk about it again ever.

But the same evil that I found in the highlands of Vietnam...exists today.

30 plus years ago...a self-serving ex-sailor sat before Congress and lied to them about the behaviour of American Soldiers. Lied to them in order to make himself look good. Lied to them in order to further his own ambitions.

Lied to them to facilitate the Evil.

And now...that same liar ...that same self-serving arrogant bastard is running for President.

I cannot prove it...but I have always believed that the actions of people like Kerry...facilitated the death of that young mother and her baby.

I would hate to think of a world...were someone like Kerry had as much power as a President of the United States has.

What would be the consequences????

Evil exists.

It is up to us...to defeat it.


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"I VOW I will do everything I LEGALLY can to keep this traitor from being elected. "
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I can only echo.....

We have a REAL choice this election....

redrock

1 posted on 07/18/2004 4:55:13 PM PDT by redrock
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Now...you know EXACTLY how I feel.

redrock

2 posted on 07/18/2004 4:56:13 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: redrock

I would like to think that Kerry has grown up since then, but I'm not willing to take that chance. The only prudent way to vote is to support W.


3 posted on 07/18/2004 4:58:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: StarCMC; Kathy in Alaska; stand watie; Ragtime Cowgirl; AuntB
Bump....

redrock

4 posted on 07/18/2004 4:58:51 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: redrock

BTTT


5 posted on 07/18/2004 4:59:58 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: redrock

I cannot prove it...but I have always believed that the actions of people like Kerry...facilitated the death of that young mother and her baby.

Of course they did, just as they have in Cambodia,Laos,Afghanastan, Iraq,
Iran, Israel and other places around the globe.

Kerry is just the liberals trying to use patriotism to gain
the power that Clinton lost for them.

He and Herself must never be allowed to gain that power again.


6 posted on 07/18/2004 5:00:52 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: redrock

Powerful stuff Brother.

Especially since we have met in person.

We MUST stop this traitor!

God Bless You and your family.


7 posted on 07/18/2004 5:02:38 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops Past, Present and Future)
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To: redrock

Yes I do bro. 'Pod.


8 posted on 07/18/2004 5:03:17 PM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: " We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: hellinahandcart; NYC GOP Chick; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper; cyborg; SLB; Fred Mertz; ...

ping!


9 posted on 07/18/2004 5:04:46 PM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: " We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: redrock; The Sailor; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; Jet Jaguar; ..

MUST READ by redrock PING


10 posted on 07/18/2004 5:05:30 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops Past, Present and Future)
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11 posted on 07/18/2004 5:10:02 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops Past, Present and Future)
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To: redrock

Which candidate do you think the terrorists want to win?


12 posted on 07/18/2004 5:10:49 PM PDT by treeclimber
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To: redrock

I know what you've experienced.

I saw a couple of similar instances of the same sort of thing in the Soui Ca valley the year before. They wiped out an entire family including a 3 year old boy. Hung them in the village square on the eve of the elections. father was the local mayor. As though a 3 year old boy could add anything to the war effort.

The platoon was different for quite a while after that.

I never saw a GI exhibit any cruelt toward the civilians. Usually it was the exact opposite. The desoicable NVA and VC were exactly the opposite. Yet, with the leftist re-writing of the history of the war, in the popular mind it was the GI that was the 'Baby-killer'.

I blamed the atrocities you and I, and I'm sure many others, saw on the anti-war traitors then and still do.


13 posted on 07/18/2004 5:11:08 PM PDT by x1stcav (http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/photo_gallery.asp)
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To: redrock

My daughter (the Conservative) was born at 11:20 PM that day.


14 posted on 07/18/2004 5:12:27 PM PDT by surrey
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To: redrock; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; ...

15 posted on 07/18/2004 5:13:57 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: redrock; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

We watched a documentary on Discovery Times channel last night about Viet Nam. And about a month ago I forced hubby to sit thru the "Killing Fields" movie. There was some liberal stuff in the movie, but it showed the philosphy of the NVA Communists/Cambodian communists. I am learning all I can and I am thankful to people like you and Tonk who are out there getting the truth out thry all the fiction. Bless you! And may John Kerry rot in...well, you know.


16 posted on 07/18/2004 5:17:35 PM PDT by StarCMC (Please pray for the 2/7 Marines and Josh.)
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To: x1stcav; redrock; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping! As for you gentlemen, we know you were a bunch of babykilling murderers. John Kerry says so and he has to be right. Right? After all, he's the presumed Democratic nominee. He must be telling the truth. I think. Right? :)


17 posted on 07/18/2004 5:17:36 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: surrey

Hey, surrey. March 15, 1971. We're a new breed of conservative. We're optimistic. Just ask your daughter.

Chris


18 posted on 07/18/2004 5:18:45 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: redrock; Smartass; devolve; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; potlatch

___________________________

"Kerry draws heckler . ."

Kerry to heckler: 'I never run away from a fight,' especially with Bush (What a Jerk Alert!)

"On the April 18 Meet the Press, Tim Russert played a clip from Kerry’s April 18, 1971 appearance on the show. Kerry had asserted:

- “There are all kinds of atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones."

- "I conducted harassment and interdiction fire."

- "I used 50-caliber machine guns which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people."

- "I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages."

- "All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare."

- "All of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down."

- "And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free-fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.”

Listen To Kerry’s Lies

19 posted on 07/18/2004 5:21:27 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I have learned one thing very well over my 71 years on this earth. As a rule, the only thing that happens to young sonovabitch as he ages, is that he turns into an old sonovabitch.

The young sonovabitch that once was Kerry, is now the old sonovabitch that "is" (there's that big word again) Kerry.


20 posted on 07/18/2004 5:23:28 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (I drove up behind a two horse trailer today- at first glance I thought Kerry & Edwards were in town.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; redrock

I copied and pasted your story to email and sent to some family and friends. We gotta get this message out!!


21 posted on 07/18/2004 5:23:38 PM PDT by StarCMC (Please pray for the 2/7 Marines and Josh.)
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To: redrock

Absolutely terrible!

That same horror was brought down about 1 million innocent Vietnamese civilians when our military left Nam. The communists killed the babies and innocent civilians thanks to the traitor Kerry, Fonda and their fellow traitors.

Then, the mass murdering spread to countries around Nam as the communists slaughtered innocents like in your horrible reality.

Yet, the liberal maggot mediots have hid this horrible reality from Americans. Kerry and his fellow traitors made many Americans believe that the brave people like you killed the babies.

The realities are the baby killers were communists, friend and allies of Kerry, Fonda, the Clintoons and other maggots of the 1960/70's.

Thanks for your brave service and sharing this nightmare with us.


22 posted on 07/18/2004 5:25:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Teresa Heinz Kerry: 'I have to say that John Edwards is very beautiful'...)
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To: treeclimber

The Islamofascist Terrorists and the Kerrorists will not be voting for GW this November.


23 posted on 07/18/2004 5:26:15 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Teresa Heinz Kerry: 'I have to say that John Edwards is very beautiful'...)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"The young sonovabitch that once was Kerry, is now the old sonovabitch that "is" (there's that big word again) Kerry."

I'm just a youngster at 65, and you are right on target. Some of the most vile people I know from my age up are part of this maggot infected hate America Group. So Kerry is their hero.


24 posted on 07/18/2004 5:28:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Teresa Heinz Kerry: 'I have to say that John Edwards is very beautiful'...)
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To: Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; devolve; Lady Jag; Kathy in Alaska; PhilDragoo; Godebert



25 posted on 07/18/2004 5:29:06 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: redrock

Kerry, the traitor, deserves no less than these.

Thanks for this story.


26 posted on 07/18/2004 5:30:41 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: redrock

bttt


27 posted on 07/18/2004 5:31:34 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Ted Rall needs a change of attitude.)
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To: redrock

Thank you posting this experience. Thank God for the internet, that allows us to get the word out about this man who wants to be our President.

As for true evil, it definitely still exists today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1173730/posts

This woman's foundation works with the Tides Foundation (Theraaaaaaaayyza Kerry) and the son who survived her murder episode was given a T-shirt by Kerry's sister. Small world, eh?


28 posted on 07/18/2004 5:35:15 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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To: redrock

Oh God, redrock.

To have helped bring a precious life into this world, and seen it ended so cruelly.

I have to believe that the baby and her mother are in heaven now, and maybe, they are your own guardian angels.

Peace be with you, redrock.


29 posted on 07/18/2004 5:37:43 PM PDT by baseballmom (Michael Moore - An un-American Hatriot)
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To: redrock
Initially he stated that "we burned down houses of innocent women and children". After he realized that he could be put on trial for war crimes, he changed the "we" as meaning "Americans" but he,"never witnessed this first hand, just heard about it from other soldiers". Thus the name "flip-flop". When asked later who he had "heard" did this act with time and place, he refused to answer knowing that if he had given specific information he would have been put on trial for failing to report possible war-crimes in a command position. The wars unpopularity is the only reason John Kerry can even run for President. This is exactly what he is hoping for in Iraq.
30 posted on 07/18/2004 5:38:13 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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To: redrock
30 plus years ago...a self-serving ex-sailor sat before Congress and lied to them about the behaviour of American Soldiers. Lied to them in order to make himself look good. Lied to them in order to further his own ambitions.

I live in an area where many believe the lies of the global statists. All I have to do is attend any barbecue on any summer weekend to hear the people who believe the lies.

This weekend was no different. A new set of lies can be seen in the Michael Moore movie, and people at least around here, were talking about it and they believe it.

Come November, "a self-serving ex-sailor who sat before Congress and lied" some 30 years ago about the behavior of American Soldiers will most likely carry my home state and maybe even my home district.

You are correct. Not in the Vietnam highlands but here and today evil is alive and well.

31 posted on 07/18/2004 5:42:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Smartass; writer33; StarCMC; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All

I truly can't add anytihng to this thread, that hasn't already been done.

I do sincerely hope that GWB can pull this rabbit out of the hat, in the upcoming months.


32 posted on 07/18/2004 5:43:26 PM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge

But I don't really believe he will...


33 posted on 07/18/2004 5:44:28 PM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: redrock
That Jerk Kerry is a traitor, and betrays all who defend this country.

God bless you my friend.

34 posted on 07/18/2004 5:45:13 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I can never get enough of that quote - particularly his emphasis of 'IN THAT.' I never understood why he emphasized it. It just sounds shallow to me.


35 posted on 07/18/2004 5:45:55 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: redrock; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); Angelwood; ...
redrock and Tonk ~~~ Thank you both for your service to our country!!! And although we know that evil exists and will until the Lord allows otherwise, we thank you for all you are doing to prevent it from residing in the White House again.

God bless you ... and all your fellow veterans!

36 posted on 07/18/2004 5:46:51 PM PDT by kayak (Help stamp out FReepathons. Become a monthly donor.)
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To: redrock

bump


37 posted on 07/18/2004 5:47:06 PM PDT by VOA
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To: redrock; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; TexasCowboy; Taxman; Warrior Nurse
Thank you for sharing this story redrock. Evil does exist in this world. That point is very clear to many GI's.

Most American civilians have no idea what GI's serving in a combat zone have done, much less what the have seen and smelled.

They don't know the vivid images that go through the mind of someone who witnessed it, replaying again and again as if it just happened 5 minutes ago, when the actual event was 35 years ago.

They don't know that a certain scent or a certain sound, can trigger a visceral reaction as if they were still under fire a long time ago far away from home.

They don't realize that these things stay with you for a lifetime, that they are part of your thoughts whether you want them there or not.

Thank you for serving our country. Thanks to all the men and women who endure the ugliness of war so we can live in peace.

38 posted on 07/18/2004 5:48:40 PM PDT by Chieftain ('W' in '04!)
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To: redrock

Bump


39 posted on 07/18/2004 5:51:20 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Grampa Dave

Well by golly, you are pretty smart for a young fellow. Seriousely though, most people do mellow some as they age, and those who hold onto enough hair, kind of gray out with that symbol of wisdom on their head. Trouble is that too many of those white heads and blue heads, are just as dumb as a rock, and I ain't talking about after senility sets in, either.

The Dems pull their scam on people of all ages, it's just embarrassing that people of our age are still being sucked in too.

THe good news is that while Edwards may be a pretty Gore-Kerry is no Clinton.



40 posted on 07/18/2004 6:01:43 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (I drove up behind a two horse trailer today- at first glance I thought Kerry & Edwards were in town.)
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To: redrock

This is a moving story. While reading it, I could vividly see the events as they unfolded. It's sad to look back on those times and think of what might have been had so many like John Kerry not turned their backs.


41 posted on 07/18/2004 6:02:36 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: redrock

Re 14:19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses' bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.
(NKJV)
Re 21:8 "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
(NKJV)
Joh 8:44 "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
(NKJV)
Prayers up!
Lord,we pray for a continued leadership in this country that is honoring to You.


42 posted on 07/18/2004 6:06:29 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
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To: Interesting Times

FYI


43 posted on 07/18/2004 6:12:34 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: redrock
We have a REAL choice this election....

You've got that right. Thanks for your service and for reliving a painful memory.

44 posted on 07/18/2004 6:15:06 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Live Strong)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

45 posted on 07/18/2004 6:31:12 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"We MUST stop this traitor!"

Amen!!!

redrock

46 posted on 07/18/2004 6:47:53 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: sauropod
Thanks.

redrock

47 posted on 07/18/2004 6:49:35 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: treeclimber
The terrorists want the Candidate that will coddle them...give in to them...make THIER lives easier.

John Kerry.

redrock

48 posted on 07/18/2004 6:50:55 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: redrock

Looks like our tour has 100 some days still.


49 posted on 07/18/2004 6:51:18 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops Past, Present and Future)
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To: x1stcav
You and I have tasted some of the same dirt.

We have seen with our own eyes the REAL American Soldier in action....NOT the one that Liberals would have us believe exists.

We Americans,after all, (and in direct refutation of everything Liberalism stands for)...are the "GOOD GUYS".

redrock

50 posted on 07/18/2004 6:53:27 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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