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Posted on 07/18/2004 6:57:48 PM PDT by JustPiper
That's alot of work! Nice job. I look forward to reading it more carefully a bit later.
Including PGP encrypted messages instead of just the usual blather suggests near term operational messages are being passed. You only need enough encryption to keep the information secret until exposure no longer matters. There is always the possibility that the message is completely innocuous and intended to get people stirred up.
After reading your profile and observing your post, I would be willing to bet you would be a handful for any potential terrorist!
How did you figure that out? My sister-in-law is busting a gut. I was just sitting here trying to figure out where to hide a can of mace and if I could get to it, after I got it there. Is it legal to carry on slabbed bacon? LOL
I'll have something either legal visible or not legal invisible. I can be just as cunning as those fargin bastages.
alright, so what about the times he's said "72 hours until", "today america is destroyed"?
look, EOM's either a fake or not.
I believe that Laura stated on the QFiles show that she was traslating the background arabic symbols and making sure the english text said what it said in Arabic.
Others wise, us "arabic illiterate" would've just taken the english subtitles as fact and it could've been saying anything in arabic and we wouldnt have known any different if Laura didnt Re-translate it.
I know I sure as hell wouldnt take what some jihaadist says his video says in arabic as gospel, I would hope everyone here wouldnt do that either. Weve been around the block enough to know better.
I'm not sure and with my luck, my phones would crash if I tried to call...
So what you are saying here Granny, is many of us are not doing anything worthwhile because we report news, links etc. BUT I am the only one who you have spewed this at several times?
Have you not noticed I am not the only one to post what you call "pretty pictures?
Have you ever noticed there are times you chitchat and post inanities? This is plain silly!
I have shaking so hard that i will end this, before I really tell you what i think of your efforts to kill research.
WHAT DID YOU FIND TODAY THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON THE WORLD OR ANY REAL MEANING?????????????????????
You have personally attacked me several times and I have never attacked you. I've refrained, ignored, whatever not to drag everyone up her in your mire Granny. But I'm suppose to keep letting you go on with unprovoked attacks try and make me look like a fool, because you think what I do here is silly? Have you not learned yet "I" am not the bad guy here and what I do contribute, albiet to your distaste has never been criticized by anyone but you? What does that tell you?
Pretty picture Calpernia
"A lot of good the sky marshals are going to do if they're just sitting there, waiting till the old scenario plays out, if the bad guys are working on a new scenario!"
They are probing defenses. Testing alternative strategies for overcoming new measures, the most important being undercover air marshals. The point is not to figure out if you can dismantle a bathroom wall, put together a device in a lavatory in relay-team style, or rehearse coordinated movements designed to catch flight attendants and passengers unaware. All this can be done on the ground with no risk of exposure. Even walking the plane and getting a "lay of the land" does not have to be done so overtly and in groups. The point for them is to ID and take out the air marshals because in sufficient numbers and with a well-crafted plan there is not a good way to defend against a sudden attack.
In any game or war, those who seize the initiative have the initial advantage. This is why preemption is a necessary evil for us as a nation. But "pre-empting" one team on one plane does not solve your problem. As anecdotal reports indicate, the probing is extensive. Unless a hijacking of the plane is underway, you should not show your cards. You can arrest the suspects, but they would probably have kept one or two non-ME types hidden as passenger-observers to report back the results of the probe.
While it is a human reaction for an attendant to seek to calm a passenger as in the Jacobsen story, it is a potentially fatal mistake. You must never *ever* confirm or deny the presence of federal LEOs or their identities. Reassurance is fine.
Compromising the critical defense is not.
It sounds like things have tightened up some the past couple weeks. It is a difficult decision to know when to pull the trigger, but the air marshals did the right thing.
The terrorists are trying to discover what they need to do to force federal LEOs to reveal themselves (how outlandish and threatening must their behavior become to trigger action) so that they can then use this information in a future operation to identify and neutralize them. To give the terrorists this info is to give them the keys to the airplane.
This is not about lavatories, strange bags, signals, rehearsals, or wiring.
It is about how to ID air marshals.
And they have to keep them guessing on multiple levels.
"I wonder then, if it is true, that some lamebrain did set up NEIN with the code."
Think of all the possibilities of who could set up Who? That is why there is no answer until you establish the chain this video followed from Source to SP. And we may only know a small piece of that Chain.
I know enough Arabic to be able to tell that the subtitles were translations of what was being said. In every sentence he spoke, there were several of the same words in the english sentence.
There were no Arabic symbold in the background.
A Faraday shield is often wrapped around a sensitive electronics facility for lightning protect. Lightning is a natural EMP. The Faraday cage keeps the high frequency EMP off the electronics gear and the lightning bolt is shunted to ground. A big copper container can build up a static charge relative to other objects. Recall how a Van de Graaff generator is constructed? The ground shunts the build up.
Don't blame me. Vel gave me the coffee!
Thanks.
I dont think ANYONE was set up, nor was any lieing done. I just think that Laura stumbbled upon something "unusual" on the file and she didnt know what it was she was looking at. She correctly assumed it was a code, but wrongly assumed its origin.
Thats great that you know, however, the general public doesnt and thats the service Laura provides. So that the general public knows what is said, she was making sure that what was being spoken/written on any document says what it says in the best translation possible.
I really think all this was made this huge hoopla over nothing. Peoples reputations are on the line and being shot to pieces all because of an encrypted code that I think came from the DivX program in use.
LMAO! Excellent and too true in the corporate world and in politics.
"WHAT EVERYBODY IS MISSING IS THIS: If this story is a hoax, then both Jill and StillProud were in on it. In fact, they both had to be lying from the very start."
Actually Either one alone could be in on it(Technically). But I don't believe that. You made me think of another possiblity.
There is this descrepancy of why translate a video with subtitles? Well maybe Sp was looking at a different video?
She could have been looking at the same video and translating the audio verses subtitles that could be incomplete, but....
It could have been a different video...A longer video(There seems to be a descrepancy in the number of frames). There are so many possibilites that it is just pointless to make any conclusions at all...Without input from SP. I am sure she is honest, and She can shed some light on this. She is not ignoring us. She is attending to a most personal matter...I have been told. She simply is out of the loop right now...Everyone Have patience.
And thankyou ET for your great observations.
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