Skip to comments.Schwarzenegger Calls Dems 'Girlie Men'
Posted on 07/18/2004 9:36:33 PM PDT by John Lenin
By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer
LOS ANGELES - A spokesman for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) said Sunday that the governor would not apologize for calling lawmakers "girlie men," despite criticisms from Democrats that the remark was sexist and homophobic.
Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests.
"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario.
The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection.
Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to "blatant homophobia."
"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.
"It's ironic that the governor would try to find a metaphor for weakness when his real problem is that we're being too strong," she added.
Schwarzenegger's criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests.
At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks.
"It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the governor's point."
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.
"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger."
Has he hired Ann Coulter as his press adviser?? ;-)
Thought what he said yesterday was silly . . .until I heard the democrat party hacks complaining!
I hope so.
Only "girlie men" would be threatened by Arnie's remark.
You tell em Arnie.LOL! girly men I love it.
Dana Carvey for Gubernator!!! ("Hear me now and believe me later!")
uhhhhh....sexist? Maybe. But homophobic? hmmmmmmm.....sounds like maybe these RATS are engaging in what psychologists would call "projecting".
ANN DOES NOT LIKE GIRLIE-MEN.......watch out Maria
Not a Californian, and had no good opinion of Arnold really. But this makes me think a little better of him. What Californians need most is to be shaken out of their oversensitivity to everything. That fear of offending keeps California stagnant.
Sexist and homophobic! LOL!
The truth hurts.
I think that gay men have done enough to "insult" who they are.
Arnold was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG to say "girlie men".... Dems are girlie dogs...
Wonder if this is what Bush expected when he decided to let him speak at RNC Convention, media will still be talking about this then.
Only "girlie men" would be threatened by Arnie's remark.
Leave it to the Dumocrats to be so "sensitive". What a bunch of whimps.
I think maybe the FREEPErs in California should call these legislators and tell them you agree with governor, then make some signs with names and pics of the GIrly men Legislators.
Of course, we all recall the outrage created when Dana Carvey helped to create this bit, and made it a staple on SNL........................don't we?
Well said. You are more perceptive than most of my fellow Caleeefornyans,
With a couple of exceptions...:>)
See See See, Mel dropped by on Tuesday...developing.
Just more cheese and whine from the peanut gallery, that's all.
Governor Schwarzenegger is only seeking precision in word use when he describes the Democrats as girlie-men. That's what they are. Why should an apology of any kind be considered? And as to their taking offense at the term, that was the intent. If they were not offended, the Governor would have considered this precision in word use a failure.
Let's all say it now: Girlie-men, girlie-men; girlie- girlie-girlie-men!
"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said.
Laughable comment of the day...
Girlie Men should know better than to tug on Supermans cape.
What is possibly wrong with saying that? Especially about the democrats who prefer girlie men --- they adored Bill Clinton crying in public and the worst insult they think they can come up with is to call a man a cowboy type --- which implies to them a more masculine type of man --- like Reagan or Bush.
Mel who? Gibson?
"Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was. "
Hiding behind a little girl is almsot the ultimate in being a Girlie Man. Sheesh!
Thats a great soundbite I bet
|Thought what he said yesterday was silly . . .until I heard the democrat party hacks complaining!
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Schwarzenegger stumbled into this because he remembered it from an old SNL skit. And maybe he's the only guy who could pull it off with just the right touch. But like you, the minute I saw the Democrats' replies, I thought, "What a gold mine! Yes! Let us have Democrats and Press Weenies crabbing about being called 'girlie men' from sea to shining sea!"
"My 13-year-old daughter thought was derogatory."
Are you tired of hearing that everything you think or say or do is sexist and homophobic and wrong? Well, Dear Friends... you can now vote against it!
Are you tired of Prissy PeopleTM setting all the rules on who can say what? Well, Dear Friends... you can now vote against it!
Yes, Dear Friends... the Party of the Prissy People, the Party that wants you to shut up while 300-pound guys in pink tutus prance down the hallways... not in the Community Theater, but in a steel mill! And if anybody says squat about it they'll be fired! And yes, Dear Friends... here is your chance to vote against that.
I think all the pubbies gotta do is figure out how to work the term "girlie man" into Schwarzeggers's speech at the convention. Leave the rest to the Freepers and the ProtestWarriors for later.
I'll ping you to the thread when I post it...
What the governor had in mind, no doubt.
Which is to say, they acted like girlie men hiding behind women.
10 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires
Sounds like this hag is pulling the old "hate crimes" trick out of her bag. This is right where the perverted population wants the rest of us, afraid to speak our minds for fear of the thought police showing up with an arrest warrant. Kudos to Arnold for speaking his mind and putting the perverts in their place.
And look how Al Gore had to hire a feminist to help him shape an "alpha-male" image --- what could be more "girlie-man" than doing something like that? Except for Kerry using up his wife's wealth from her previous husband --- that's very a very girlie-man thing to do.
Calling Democrat lawmakers "girlie men" is an insult to girlie men everywhere.
We need to run with it..."Kerry/Edwards...girlie men, YA!"
Can anyone think of a single democrat male who is not a girlie-man? Aren't they supposed to all be in touch with their "feminine-side"? How else could a Kerry-Edwards ticket appeal to the feminists who want a woman on the ticket except when feminine men can be found instead.
Whatta buncha crybabies.
The Dems call the President a Nazi, a stupid, murdering thug and that's groovy.
Arnold calls them a funny name and they go apesh*t.
Girlie-men...does that make them cry? Huh?
Liberal wusses will go the way of the dinosaurs.
I agree, Governor Schwarzeneeger used the wrong term for the Democrats. They're Crybaby men. I can hear their . . . WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I'm not sure I want that man being president. He's working to amend the Constitution to let him run, possibly as soon as 2008, and what irritates me is the "R" behind his name should be replaced with an "N" for nazi. If he believes in gun control, if he believes in abortion, if he believes in enviro-wacko philosophies, then he's just like all the other leftists, parallel to the very nazi party that he's trying so hard to distance himself from. Nazis had the holocaust. We have abortion. Nazis grabbed guns. Nazis were enviro-wackos. They were leftist socialist creeps. No one argues that point. But people get ticked off when I compare him to a nazi because his father was one. Why is that a big "plus" for a guy who wants to be president? The sympathy factor. We're not talking about putting a pet to sleep. We are talking about the most powerful office in the free world. I feel duty bound to see if he thinks like his father. All indications are, he does, and I'm going to say it like it is, no matter how unpopular that makes me. This is too important to be timid or mushy. Sad FReegards....
... with the minor difference of allowing the deaths of helpless, unborn innocents by the millions, rather than the holocaust against an unarmed religious group.
Actually what keeps California stagnant is a legislature dominated by the craziest lefties that anyone has anywhere...that and 4 million illegals