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Schwarzenegger Calls Dems 'Girlie Men'
Yahoo/Associated Press ^ | 7/18/2004 | TIM MOLLOY

Posted on 07/18/2004 9:36:33 PM PDT by John Lenin

By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES - A spokesman for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) said Sunday that the governor would not apologize for calling lawmakers "girlie men," despite criticisms from Democrats that the remark was sexist and homophobic.

Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests.

"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario.

The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection.

Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to "blatant homophobia."

"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.

"It's ironic that the governor would try to find a metaphor for weakness when his real problem is that we're being too strong," she added.

Schwarzenegger's criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests.

At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks.

"It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the governor's point."

Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.

"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger."


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I think Arnie is getting the message that people are tired of the excuses.
1 posted on 07/18/2004 9:36:33 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Has he hired Ann Coulter as his press adviser?? ;-)


2 posted on 07/18/2004 9:38:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: John Lenin

Thought what he said yesterday was silly . . .until I heard the democrat party hacks complaining!


3 posted on 07/18/2004 9:39:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: goldstategop

I hope so.


4 posted on 07/18/2004 9:39:55 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Only "girlie men" would be threatened by Arnie's remark.


5 posted on 07/18/2004 9:42:52 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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To: John Lenin

You tell em Arnie.LOL! girly men I love it.


6 posted on 07/18/2004 9:48:26 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Slicks bracelet is a secret mood ring when its red he's fondly remembering the KSNAP of the thong)
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To: BenLurkin
That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.


7 posted on 07/18/2004 9:51:21 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

8 posted on 07/18/2004 9:53:31 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: goldstategop; calcowgirl; Amerigomag; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan

Dana Carvey for Gubernator!!! ("Hear me now and believe me later!")


9 posted on 07/18/2004 9:54:39 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Down with Diabolical Demonicrat Socialistic GovernMental EnvironMentalists!!!)
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To: John Lenin
... despite criticisms from Democrats that the remark was sexist and homophobic.

uhhhhh....sexist? Maybe. But homophobic? hmmmmmmm.....sounds like maybe these RATS are engaging in what psychologists would call "projecting".

10 posted on 07/18/2004 9:57:56 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: goldstategop

ANN DOES NOT LIKE GIRLIE-MEN.......watch out Maria

11 posted on 07/18/2004 9:58:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: John Lenin

12 posted on 07/18/2004 9:59:02 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: John Lenin

Not a Californian, and had no good opinion of Arnold really. But this makes me think a little better of him. What Californians need most is to be shaken out of their oversensitivity to everything. That fear of offending keeps California stagnant.


13 posted on 07/18/2004 9:59:27 PM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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To: John Lenin

Sexist and homophobic! LOL!


14 posted on 07/18/2004 9:59:30 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: BunnySlippers

The truth hurts.


15 posted on 07/18/2004 10:02:02 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult."

I think that gay men have done enough to "insult" who they are.

16 posted on 07/18/2004 10:07:48 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: John Lenin

Arnold was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG to say "girlie men".... Dems are girlie dogs...


17 posted on 07/18/2004 10:09:43 PM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: John Lenin

Wonder if this is what Bush expected when he decided to let him speak at RNC Convention, media will still be talking about this then.


18 posted on 07/18/2004 10:14:03 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: luvbach1

Only "girlie men" would be threatened by Arnie's remark.



Leave it to the Dumocrats to be so "sensitive". What a bunch of whimps.


19 posted on 07/18/2004 10:14:27 PM PDT by conshack
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To: John Lenin

I think maybe the FREEPErs in California should call these legislators and tell them you agree with governor, then make some signs with names and pics of the GIrly men Legislators.


20 posted on 07/18/2004 10:16:45 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: John Lenin
The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit

Of course, we all recall the outrage created when Dana Carvey helped to create this bit, and made it a staple on SNL........................don't we?

21 posted on 07/18/2004 10:19:02 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ('We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good ' - Hillary Marx)
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To: jwalburg
Not a Californian, and had no good opinion of Arnold really. But this makes me think a little better of him. What Californians need most is to be shaken out of their oversensitivity to everything. That fear of offending keeps California stagnant.

Well said. You are more perceptive than most of my fellow Caleeefornyans,

22 posted on 07/18/2004 10:20:17 PM PDT by null and void (Middle East n. former name for the region commonly known as Oil Under Glass)
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To: null and void; CounterCounterCulture; Dr. Zoo; california

With a couple of exceptions...:>)

See See See, Mel dropped by on Tuesday...developing.

:>)


23 posted on 07/18/2004 10:24:48 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Michael.SF.
It's okay to fabricate a hate phrase for a portrayal of a suspected hater...

Just more cheese and whine from the peanut gallery, that's all.

24 posted on 07/18/2004 10:29:01 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: John Lenin

Governor Schwarzenegger is only seeking precision in word use when he describes the Democrats as girlie-men. That's what they are. Why should an apology of any kind be considered? And as to their taking offense at the term, that was the intent. If they were not offended, the Governor would have considered this precision in word use a failure.
Let's all say it now: Girlie-men, girlie-men; girlie- girlie-girlie-men!


25 posted on 07/18/2004 10:34:52 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: John Lenin
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.

"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said.

Laughable comment of the day...

26 posted on 07/18/2004 10:35:06 PM PDT by Gigantor (Wow wee.)
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To: John Lenin
Not a peep of criticism about "girlie men" when used on SNL. But have a Republican use it and suddenly it becomes one of the greatest homophobic events of the 21st century. The hypocrisy never ends.
27 posted on 07/18/2004 10:39:37 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: henderson field

Girlie Men should know better than to tug on Supermans cape.


28 posted on 07/18/2004 10:40:22 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men,

What is possibly wrong with saying that? Especially about the democrats who prefer girlie men --- they adored Bill Clinton crying in public and the worst insult they think they can come up with is to call a man a cowboy type --- which implies to them a more masculine type of man --- like Reagan or Bush.

29 posted on 07/18/2004 10:45:45 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Syncro

Mel who? Gibson?


30 posted on 07/18/2004 10:49:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (And that's the bottom line ... 'cause Triple C said so!)
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To: John Lenin

"Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was. "

Hiding behind a little girl is almsot the ultimate in being a Girlie Man. Sheesh!


31 posted on 07/18/2004 10:53:45 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Coming to you live from HESCO City...)
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To: John Lenin
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA

Thats a great soundbite I bet

32 posted on 07/18/2004 10:56:16 PM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com........................www.bushcountryketchup.com)
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To: BenLurkin
Thought what he said yesterday was silly . . .until I heard the democrat party hacks complaining!

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Schwarzenegger stumbled into this because he remembered it from an old SNL skit. And maybe he's the only guy who could pull it off with just the right touch. But like you, the minute I saw the Democrats' replies, I thought, "What a gold mine! Yes! Let us have Democrats and Press Weenies crabbing about being called 'girlie men' from sea to shining sea!"

"It's homophobic."

"It's sexist."

"My 13-year-old daughter thought was derogatory."

    Deeaaarrr Frrriennnds! Yes! It has never been easier!

    Are you tired of hearing that everything you think or say or do is sexist and homophobic and wrong? Well, Dear Friends... you can now vote against it!

    Are you tired of Prissy PeopleTM setting all the rules on who can say what? Well, Dear Friends... you can now vote against it!

    Yes, Dear Friends... the Party of the Prissy People, the Party that wants you to shut up while 300-pound guys in pink tutus prance down the hallways... not in the Community Theater, but in a steel mill! And if anybody says squat about it they'll be fired! And yes, Dear Friends... here is your chance to vote against that.

I think all the pubbies gotta do is figure out how to work the term "girlie man" into Schwarzeggers's speech at the convention. Leave the rest to the Freepers and the ProtestWarriors for later.


33 posted on 07/18/2004 11:01:31 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Be shuh two zee da nuuuu Ahnold Schwohza-naygah moooovie)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Noooo.... LOL

I'll ping you to the thread when I post it...

34 posted on 07/18/2004 11:03:07 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: John Lenin
"We're not girly men, and we're offended that you would say that!"
35 posted on 07/18/2004 11:05:02 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Nick Danger
And didn't Coulter call someone a "girlie boy"?

You nailed it, Nick.

Now if the Johns Squared and the metrosexual Demos don't fit that, who could?
36 posted on 07/18/2004 11:09:28 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: John Lenin

What the governor had in mind, no doubt.

37 posted on 07/18/2004 11:11:07 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Syncro
Arnold calls them girlie men and then the Dems respond by sending out first a woman to complain and then a rep with his 13 year old daughter.

Which is to say, they acted like girlie men hiding behind women.

10 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

38 posted on 07/18/2004 11:16:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: John Lenin
"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult."

Sounds like this hag is pulling the old "hate crimes" trick out of her bag. This is right where the perverted population wants the rest of us, afraid to speak our minds for fear of the thought police showing up with an arrest warrant. Kudos to Arnold for speaking his mind and putting the perverts in their place.

39 posted on 07/18/2004 11:21:15 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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To: henderson field

And look how Al Gore had to hire a feminist to help him shape an "alpha-male" image --- what could be more "girlie-man" than doing something like that? Except for Kerry using up his wife's wealth from her previous husband --- that's very a very girlie-man thing to do.


40 posted on 07/18/2004 11:24:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: John Lenin

Calling Democrat lawmakers "girlie men" is an insult to girlie men everywhere.


41 posted on 07/18/2004 11:26:37 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: John Lenin
HEY! This could stick to Kerry/Edwards VERY easily the way they have been feeling each other up!

We need to run with it..."Kerry/Edwards...girlie men, YA!"

42 posted on 07/18/2004 11:27:53 PM PDT by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: ATCNavyRetiree

Can anyone think of a single democrat male who is not a girlie-man? Aren't they supposed to all be in touch with their "feminine-side"? How else could a Kerry-Edwards ticket appeal to the feminists who want a woman on the ticket except when feminine men can be found instead.


43 posted on 07/18/2004 11:39:05 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Serb5150

girlie-man ping

Arnold rules.

Whatta buncha crybabies.

The Dems call the President a Nazi, a stupid, murdering thug and that's groovy.

Arnold calls them a funny name and they go apesh*t.

Bwhahahaha.

Girlie-men...does that make them cry? Huh?

Liberal wusses will go the way of the dinosaurs.


44 posted on 07/18/2004 11:41:36 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: John Lenin

I agree, Governor Schwarzeneeger used the wrong term for the Democrats. They're Crybaby men. I can hear their . . . WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


45 posted on 07/18/2004 11:50:18 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: John Lenin
Girlie Man #1 - Sheila Kuehl

 
Girlie Man #2 - "Fabian" Nunez hugging Girlie Man #3, Gil Cedillio, as Girlie Man #3, Gray Davis, sign drivers license for illegals bill.

46 posted on 07/19/2004 12:25:50 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: goldstategop

I'm not sure I want that man being president. He's working to amend the Constitution to let him run, possibly as soon as 2008, and what irritates me is the "R" behind his name should be replaced with an "N" for nazi. If he believes in gun control, if he believes in abortion, if he believes in enviro-wacko philosophies, then he's just like all the other leftists, parallel to the very nazi party that he's trying so hard to distance himself from. Nazis had the holocaust. We have abortion. Nazis grabbed guns. Nazis were enviro-wackos. They were leftist socialist creeps. No one argues that point. But people get ticked off when I compare him to a nazi because his father was one. Why is that a big "plus" for a guy who wants to be president? The sympathy factor. We're not talking about putting a pet to sleep. We are talking about the most powerful office in the free world. I feel duty bound to see if he thinks like his father. All indications are, he does, and I'm going to say it like it is, no matter how unpopular that makes me. This is too important to be timid or mushy. Sad FReegards....


47 posted on 07/19/2004 1:17:55 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Joe Wilson [the Niger yellowcake 'spy'] was a hired Kerry operative.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

... with the minor difference of allowing the deaths of helpless, unborn innocents by the millions, rather than the holocaust against an unarmed religious group.


48 posted on 07/19/2004 1:22:23 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Joe Wilson [the Niger yellowcake 'spy'] was a hired Kerry operative.)
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To: jwalburg

Actually what keeps California stagnant is a legislature dominated by the craziest lefties that anyone has anywhere...that and 4 million illegals


49 posted on 07/19/2004 1:57:19 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: BenLurkin
I am liking this man more and more.
But, I will NEVER understand how he can be around FAT TEDDY and not slap the bejesus out of his FAT SORRY BUT.
50 posted on 07/19/2004 2:05:27 AM PDT by DeaconRed (NOVEMBER 2, 2004: FLUSH THE JOHNS DAY: It will stink like Cow sheet till the 3rd! ! ! ! !)
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