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Blair Attacks "Swinging 60's" (Not-Dreaming-This Alert)
This is London ^ | 7/19/2004 | Joe Murphy and Ben Leapman

Posted on 07/19/2004 9:47:04 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

Tony Blair today launched an extraordinary attack on the decline of the traditional family and the rise of "different lifestyles".

In a speech which risked a backlash from single parents' groups and Labour MPs, the Prime Minister said the culture of the "Swinging Sixties" was partly to blame for crime and social breakdown.

"A society of different lifestyles spawned a group of young people who were brought up without parental discipline, without proper role models and without any sense of responsibility to others," said Mr Blair. "All of this was then multiplied in effect by the economic and social changes that altered the established pattern of community life in cities, towns and villages."

He added: "Today, people have had enough of this part of the 1960s consensus. People do not want a return to old prejudices and ugly discrimination. But they do want rules, order and proper behaviour. They want a community where the decent lawabiding majority are in charge."

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1 posted on 07/19/2004 9:47:09 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

This guy is growing on me.


2 posted on 07/19/2004 9:49:17 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Rutles4Ever

wants to win re-election, but this guy is a believing Christian from what I've read.

Sounds like straight out of Bush's playbook!


3 posted on 07/19/2004 9:50:53 AM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: votelife

He's got a houseful of kids too.


4 posted on 07/19/2004 9:52:26 AM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Reminds me of Austin Powers' speech to Dr. Evil on the difference between the 60s and the 90s:

"Freedom and responsibility, it's a very groovy mix, baby!"

:-)


5 posted on 07/19/2004 9:52:33 AM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: votelife

I agree. It's sad that we live in a world where the desire for safety, security and family values are mocked as being out of touch and prejudicial. Good for Tony.


6 posted on 07/19/2004 9:52:59 AM PDT by volchef (I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Hard to fathom how far the culture has fallen when someone cant say the family is important without fear of being ripped.
7 posted on 07/19/2004 9:55:19 AM PDT by Mulch
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To: MadIvan

I've heard that, if it weren't for his brain-dead leftist shrew of a wife, Tony would be right at home as a Tory. Ivan, what do you think?


8 posted on 07/19/2004 9:55:23 AM PDT by TheBigB (When Woody Allen and Soon-Yi are in bed together, does he ever yell, "Who's your daddy?!")
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To: Rutles4Ever

Tony is awesome! It's about time someone else takes a stand against permissive behavior and irresponsiblity!


9 posted on 07/19/2004 9:55:40 AM PDT by rginkgin (These Jihadists are a perfect nuisance...)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Blair used to be a third-wayer, Euro-Clintonista.

What happened to this man?

On the other hand, he can say whatever he wants and never be called to translate his words into policy. He and his Labour Partyers sold his island's sovereignty out to Brussels and the emerging non-democratic Euro-Super-State. Powerlessness has benefits as well as costs.
10 posted on 07/19/2004 9:56:32 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Rutles4Ever
"Today, people have had enough of this part of the 1960s consensus. People do not want a return to old prejudices and ugly discrimination. But they do want rules, order and proper behaviour. They want a community where the decent lawabiding majority are in charge."

Amen brother! Hanging out with W. is doing old Tony some good!

11 posted on 07/19/2004 10:00:10 AM PDT by pgkdan
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....Mr Blair spoke out in a speech to a community centre in Somers Town, Camden, as he launched the Government's law and order strategy. His words will be seen as highly controversial because they appeared to criticise divorced couples and single parents for failing to give their children proper role models.

The speech evoked memories of John Major's infamous "back to basics" speech, which attacked the permissive society but backfired disastrously when a string of Tory MPs were caught up in sex and financial scandals.

Mr Blair blamed "swinging Sixties" attitudes for encouraging criminals to think they could get away with it. He said laudable attempts to understand criminal behaviour had bred "freedom without responsibility" while a new generation of criminals were more violent and better organised.

"The petty criminals were no longer the bungling but wrongheaded villains of old, but drug pushers and drug abusers, desperate and without any residual moral sense."

Mr Blair added: "I got used to the society of fear in the Eighties, canvassing on the Holly Street estate in Hackney - now thankfully greatly improved - when people were too scared to open the door and the letterboxes had burn marks where lighted rags had been shoved through them."

The clampdown on yobbish behaviour aims to identify the 50 worst offenders in each area and bring them to justice. The measure is at the centre of a package of hardline law-and-order policies being announced by Home Secretary David Blunkett, who accompanied Mr Blair on today's visit.

It comes as Scotland Yard revealed the results of the first four weeks of its three-month blitz on drunken troublemakers in London, codenamed Operation Optic. Figures released to the Evening Standard show that roving riot squads made more than 200 arrests in 14 boroughs for offences including violence and robbery.

Under today's proposals, residents and businesses will be asked to nominate the 50 worstbehaved individuals who make life a misery in their neighbourhood. Police will target them with antisocial behaviour orders where possible. The experiment will be tried first in 50 areas, including at least two London boroughs, Westminster and Camden.

The Government hopes the plans will reassure voters before figures later this week show a rise in violent offences despite an overall fall in crime.

Mr Blunkett claimed the new measures would help him meet a tough new target to cut crime by 15 per cent in five years. He admitted Britain was suffering from the spread of "antisocial behaviour, drug-taking, fear [over] walking down the street late at night". He was announcing details of the five-year plan to MPs in the Commons this afternoon.

Ministers fear that growing concern over drink-fuelled violence will play into Tory hands at the election expected next year.

The Home Secretary has pinned some of the blame on women, claiming an upsurge in female binge drinking meant they no longer acted as a restraining influence on men. He pledged to act if extended pub opening hours under the new Licensing Act brought a rise in violence.


12 posted on 07/19/2004 10:00:39 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Rutles4Ever

'splains why he never liked Clinton.


13 posted on 07/19/2004 10:01:16 AM PDT by Gaetano
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To: Rutles4Ever

"Blair Attacks "Swinging 60's""

G-d damn hippies.


14 posted on 07/19/2004 10:01:28 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Liberty without responsibility is destructive and leads to inevitable tyranny. That's what the founders of this nation knew and this generation has forgotten or dismissed. Self-government can only exist if the people are willing to be responsibile for themselves.


15 posted on 07/19/2004 10:02:01 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

BTTT


16 posted on 07/19/2004 10:02:51 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Asclepius
What ever happened to New-Britain??! /snicker
17 posted on 07/19/2004 10:03:47 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Inside every bleeding-heart moderate/socialist/leftist, there's a conservative just screaming to get out. Unfortunately, it takes real world experiences like getting mugged, seeing 3000 Americans die on a beautiful tuesday morning, or having the government confiscate half your paycheck for most people to realize it. Glad to see Blair's war credentials are being matched by his moral credentials. The guy grows on me every day.


18 posted on 07/19/2004 10:05:53 AM PDT by Piedmont Rebel
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To: Rutles4Ever

i blame benny hill


19 posted on 07/19/2004 10:07:21 AM PDT by goldwaterlives
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To: Rutles4Ever
Tony is coming around. The Lord is working on his heart. He'll make a Tory yet--but he may lose his place as a result.

Now if he'd just back quietly away from his attacks on foxhunting and country life, we'd be all set.

20 posted on 07/19/2004 10:07:45 AM PDT by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
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To: arbee4bush

ping!


21 posted on 07/19/2004 10:07:50 AM PDT by KB4W (I voted for the...before I voted...against, No...wait...You mean I'm supposed to vote? JF'nK)
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To: fooman
Find out what he's been drinking and order cases of it for the media and academia.
22 posted on 07/19/2004 10:08:18 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

OH BOY...I just love it.
Hooray for Tony Blair!


23 posted on 07/19/2004 10:08:57 AM PDT by joyce11111
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To: Rutles4Ever

Who, more than us members of that generation, have the entitlement and ability to be self-critical. There have been recent articles and reports of drops in crime, drug use, lower teen pregnancy, etc. and I can't help but think this is the best news for the future that I've heard in a while. Fortunately, somehow, we managed to raise a generation that seems to have seen through and rejected the worst effects of our self-indulgence. My/our generation was spoiled and given far more credit than we deserved mostly by a media and other so called adults of that time who fostered this 'rebellion' for their own purposes. We then proceeded to operate from an abiding sense that we, unlike any previous generation, had discovered the essential elements of right and wrong and way, way too many of us stayed in that mind set as cases of arrested development who created or fostered much of today's societal ills.
Don't get me wrong. It was a blast. And I wouldn't have missed it for the world. But, hopefully, some of us got it - or are getting it.
Finally.
All in all, I'm starting to get some hope that things will be in good hands - in spite of us.


24 posted on 07/19/2004 10:10:48 AM PDT by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Heavy downer, man.


25 posted on 07/19/2004 10:10:57 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ¡°ml maximize¡± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

bump for Tony Blair

The leftist hordes aren't going to like Tony straying off the plantation.


26 posted on 07/19/2004 10:11:15 AM PDT by baseballmom (Michael Moore - An un-American Hatriot)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Paging Mr. Clinton, Paging Mr. Clinton, please step to the white courtesy phone, we have a call for you ...


27 posted on 07/19/2004 10:12:12 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Down with yobbish behavior.


28 posted on 07/19/2004 10:14:16 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Rutles4Ever
Discuss.

I think we are responsible for the way we live.

We can't blame Jefferson or Lincoln or Marx for our present politics. We can't blame Roosevelt or Hoover or Reagan for our current budget decisions. We can't blame Pope Urban II or Martin Luther or Confucius for our current religious beliefs. We can't blame Johann Bach or Elmore Jame or Gregorian chants for our popular music. We can't blame the twenties for the fifties and we can't blame the sixties for our present culture.

We own the present, just like they did when they were running loose. ;-)

29 posted on 07/19/2004 10:14:53 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Those socialists banned private gun ownership and when crime predictibly skyrocketed, they blame "demon rum". Similar to when communists seize farms and blame a drought for starvation.

And of course, they need more government to solve the problems they just caused. How convenient.

30 posted on 07/19/2004 10:18:40 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
They want a community where the decent lawabiding majority are in charge.

Sounds like he doesn't have any black friends, either.

31 posted on 07/19/2004 10:19:17 AM PDT by rabidralph (My pit bull drives an SUV.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I'll know Tony has really repented when he starts to actively work to dismantle the generous government subsidies which the Labour Party dishes out to single moms, sickness benficiaries etc, which do so much to sustain the lifestyles which he laments. Not to mention the use of taxpayers' money for condom giveaways, abortion, sex-ed, etc etc.

No need to beat about the bush, Tony. Just say it. "Maggie Thatcher was right!!"

32 posted on 07/19/2004 10:21:23 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Rutles4Ever

This is very strange. Blair is the guy, after all, who gave the speech about "Cool Britannia" - basically a pitch to completely destroy traditional British society with leftist sexual degeneracy and multiculturalism. He's also presided over Britain's transformation into an Orwellian regime, complete with "diversity directorates" who send storm troopers to break down doors and arrest those who have been accused of making "racist" statements.

Let's also not forget that Blair's regime routinely arrests and imprisons anyone who dares to defend himself or his family from assault from criminals. Not to mention handing over English sovereignty to the EU regime in Brussels. Is this just a case of political pandering? It's very rare for a egotisical politician to have a real change of heart, but its not impossible. Time will tell, I guess.


33 posted on 07/19/2004 10:21:27 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Rutles4Ever
I think Tony is actually getting it...

Watching all the "Bush led us into war" blather from the Left on television makes me want to ask one simple question: "If Bush was lying to the American people to get us into Iraq, then why did Tony Blair, who has access to his own intelligence, go along with it?" Nobody mentions Blair's support of the war on this side of the puddle.

34 posted on 07/19/2004 10:24:37 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Rutles4Ever; MadIvan
Next thing you know, he'll come out as an ardent pro-lifer.

Well, that may take a little longer.
35 posted on 07/19/2004 10:28:24 AM PDT by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: Capriole

I would never put much of a bet on the Tories. You probably are thinking of Churchill. He was always an ill-fit in that party. You gave to start with what his father stood for and then note that he entered parliament as a Liberal imperialist ad a free trade. A conservative, but more in common with American conservatives than English Tories.


36 posted on 07/19/2004 10:37:29 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Dont Mention the War

Vegetable rights and peace!!!


37 posted on 07/19/2004 10:41:59 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: TheBigB
I'm utterly shocked...he's apparently been reading books about Reagan and Thatcher lately, and I can only guess this is rubbing off on him. I'll never vote for his party, but if I was in his constituency, I'd vote for the man.

Regards, Ivan

38 posted on 07/19/2004 10:44:51 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: George W. Bush
Next thing you know, he'll come out as an ardent pro-lifer.

I believe he wants to cut the term in which one can get an abortion from 24 weeks to 12.

Regards, Ivan

39 posted on 07/19/2004 10:46:13 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: fooman
"This guy is growing on me."

Be very careful. While I deeply appreciate Blair's steadfast support of the U.S. in its War on Terror, the man is still a vice-president of Socialist International:

http://www.socialistinternational.org/5Congress/XXIICongress/electionscongressxxii.html
41 posted on 07/19/2004 10:52:22 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

That is why I carefully chose the word 'grow'. I will mind the gap. Thx


42 posted on 07/19/2004 10:56:00 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Scenic Sounds
"We can't blame Roosevelt or Hoover or Reagan for our current budget decisions."

Two simplistic. Two of the above certainly hobbled us with albatrosses like the Great Society and the New Deal. Turning that clock back is very difficult-- the third one you mention tried. Unfortunately he also presided over a runamok Congress that would not rein-in spending. The result is deficit spending financed by debt, which future budgets must pay.

I agree with your message of responsibility for the current generation, but to deny the burdensome heritage of a century's drift towards socialism is naive.
43 posted on 07/19/2004 11:01:48 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: Scenic Sounds
"A society of different lifestyles spawned a group of young people who were brought up without parental discipline, without proper role models and without any sense of responsibility to others," said Mr Blair.

IMO, he is referring to the hippy philosophy.

I also think he is referring to a resurgence in the hippy philosophy. I have heard Drew Barrymore and some others refer to themselves as "hippies". There is the mantra from the left that this (Iraq) is their (this generations) Vietnam. The fashion industry seems to be trying to reinvent and/or influence fashion of the "hippy" days. Icons of the "hippy" days are all over the news... politicians, musicians, stars, etc. There is a definite "wind blowing" and blowing hard, blowing us back to that "movement and mindset" of free love and hedonism. Eric Erikson called these particular social-psychological "stages" of human development, Generativity vs. Stagnation & Integrity vs. Despair. Those stuck in the 60's who feel they have to go back to those times and impose them on another generation, would be stagnated and in despair according to Erikson.
I think that is what Blair is referring to.

44 posted on 07/19/2004 11:30:48 AM PDT by exhaustedmomma (REtired: raising grandkids (pray for us))
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Turning that clock back is very difficult-

Turning back the clock is never an option. This is a one way street and we can only go forward. It is up to us to decide what parts of the past we wish to emulate. We can learn from their experiences, but the choices remain ours and ours alone to make.

Blaming dead people and the way they did things in the past is just too easy a way to evade responsibility. How much evidence do we have to believe that the dead folks really even care about how we choose to live? ;-)

45 posted on 07/19/2004 11:31:13 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: exhaustedmomma
There is a definite "wind blowing" and blowing hard, blowing us back to that "movement and mindset" of free love and hedonism.

LOL. The one thing that we can sure of is that, however much we huff and we puff, we ain't going back to the Sixties again. Or the Fifties. Or the Eighties.

Next up is 2005!! And you're gonna have much more influence on how we live next year than dead people!

Trust me on that!! ;-)

46 posted on 07/19/2004 11:40:00 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

He's beginning to sound like a Tory !


47 posted on 07/19/2004 11:44:08 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Rutles4Ever

when does someone start organizing another Woodstock? that should be good for some laughs!


48 posted on 07/19/2004 12:02:37 PM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Funny how Vietnam vets are 'baby killers' and pro-aborts are 'defenders of women')
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To: Rutles4Ever

It's hard to say what this means. Either he has repented his former ways or he is playing to the electorate.

Tony Blair was definitely a clintonoid for many years. One of his proudest achievements, for which he had to fight extremely hard, was to lower the age of consent for homosexual sex with minors. His cabinet ministers included an unusually large number of homosexuals, and he himself has been suspected of being homosexual.

He and Cheri are religious, but it's not clear what their religion is. I'd call it some kind of New Wave Spiritualism with a Christian veneer.

But people do sometimes repent and change, and it's possible that Blair is doing so. Even Jane Fonda got religion for a couple of days when her husband threw her out. (Sorry. I couldn't resist that, but I'll be really delighted if Blair has gotten religion.)


49 posted on 07/19/2004 12:12:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Blair's wife is what I would charitably refer to as a "Maryknoll Catholic."


50 posted on 07/19/2004 2:19:57 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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