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AP: Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos [Sandy Berger is the focus of a criminal investigation]
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Posted on 07/19/2004 5:07:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

This throws some of the conclusions of the 9/11 committee report into question. Perhaps the calls for yet another layer of bureaucracy to "oversee" the CIA (besides the Intelligence Committee, which didn't do squat) were a tad premature.


1,751 posted on 07/20/2004 9:04:13 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: jla

YES, YES, YES, YES. Dig deep enough and uncover as much as we can. What a slime pot.


1,752 posted on 07/20/2004 9:04:34 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: AuntB; Alamo-Girl

Thank God for Alamo-Girl...I had forgotten about all that stuff


1,753 posted on 07/20/2004 9:10:31 AM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: Sub-Driver
"...some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of al-Qaida terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing...."

BUT:

"Al Felzenberg... said Tuesday the Berger investigation will not impact the panel's work in any way."

WTF?? Clinton's handling of AL QAEDA doesn't have any bearing on 9/11??

Nevada beachfront property alert...

1,754 posted on 07/20/2004 9:11:46 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: television is just wrong
Rush just said " Berger's lawyer should claim he had a
paper fetish, he needed paper for origami"
1,755 posted on 07/20/2004 9:11:50 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Liberals are like catfish ( all mouth and no brains )(bottom feeders))
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Lol, it is still a crime and needs to be punished.


1,756 posted on 07/20/2004 9:14:47 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Fishtalk

Oh, no, not boring ME! Please go on Fishtalk! What about Lindsey??????????
I love the speculation .....


1,757 posted on 07/20/2004 9:17:55 AM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea (Yeah! Us FReepers got vision and the rest of the world wear bifocals!)
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IS THIS WHY HE DID IT???

The documents were in the 9-11 Commission Reading Room, right? Therefore, the fact that the originals were safe in the National Archives made no difference. Berger pulled the copies from the 9-11 RR so NO ONE ELSE WOULD READ THEM. In other words, he probably mistakenly selected them for the Commission and when he realized the mistake, he had to make them unavailable to the commission.

In stuffing the docs down his pant, he was covering his arse, literally!

1,758 posted on 07/20/2004 9:20:45 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Howlin

"I bet David Gergen feels like a fool!"

Thanks for the link! I heard Kelly Wright,Fox, report that Berger put documents..even in his socks.

Gergen and the rest of the dems are still spinning the "inadvertent" story and questioning the timing of this news. They, like Slick Willie, have no shame.


1,759 posted on 07/20/2004 9:22:01 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: windchime

I don't think they have all the facts yet, just Berger's version.


1,760 posted on 07/20/2004 9:23:24 AM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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Ginsberg: "Kerry Must Answer This ESSENTIAL Point Re: Sandy Berger":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1174857/posts

Here is what the Berger "down the pants flap" is all about:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1174864/posts

FR attention required: Clinton's consigliere, Lindsey, was contacted after Berger doc theft:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1174853/posts

Berger, Clarke Spin for Kerry on Iraq:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1101540/posts

"Sandy Berger Probed Over Terror Memos" - Put Documents IN HIS SOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1174842/posts


1,761 posted on 07/20/2004 9:24:35 AM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: windchime

Just saw a Senator from MO, a Republican no less (think his name was Senator Bond) interviewed on Fox. He pretty much was saying "no biggy". What is wrong with these people? If we can't our own party reps to say this is an outrage....ohhh, this just really ticks me off.

This is the time for our Republican leaders to be shouting from the rooftops about this criminal activity by Berger to any news outlet that will listen. Are they are so afraid of being called "partisan"! So what, we're going to be called that anyway! This is making me sick. /rant


1,762 posted on 07/20/2004 9:28:39 AM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: livius

Clinton = confusion

We really don't know yet if we survived his presidency.


1,763 posted on 07/20/2004 9:30:12 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Fishtalk
Oh I love that story! So this is where you got your name "Fishtalk" eh? Been telling fish stories for many, many years! ha!!
I was pretty good back in the day too! Nearly alcohol poisoned myself in high school. This was in the late 60's.
The police felt so sorry for me (vomiting and all) that they just took me home without telling my parents. All they cared about was where I got the booze. But I kept telling them I wasn't drunk. I told them I ate a rotten whopper!
1,764 posted on 07/20/2004 9:31:39 AM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea (Yeah! Us FReepers got vision and the rest of the world wear bifocals!)
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To: All

If he really did put it in his socks as well as his pants, that really, really, looks juvenile and pathetic. Oh I hope so, I hope so!


1,765 posted on 07/20/2004 9:34:05 AM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea (Yeah! Us FReepers got vision and the rest of the world wear bifocals!)
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To: Mo1
OMG I think I just saw footage of Kerry and Berger together, on CNN.

Meanwhile, Berger is saying there is nothing sinister about his actions, it's all a big mistake. CNN is bringing up this story every half hour and giving it lots more time this morning than they did late last night.

He is denying stuffing his socks now..."a man with decades of experience handling classified documents," according to Hastert, "has a lot of explaining to do."

Dems are suggesting the timing stinks (that's the last angle in the story per CNN).

1,766 posted on 07/20/2004 9:35:07 AM PDT by Graymatter (Kerry medical records are none of our business---and his veep pick is, who???)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

What I want to know is: was there a video camera working during Berger's lifting of the documents and if so, why hasn't it been released to FOX news?


1,767 posted on 07/20/2004 9:35:35 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: hattend

I'm so very glad the DSL is still helpful to you! And thank you so much for the blessing. May God always bless you, hattend!


1,768 posted on 07/20/2004 9:38:20 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: NonValueAdded
The documents were in the 9-11 Commission Reading Room, right? Therefore, the fact that the originals were safe in the National Archives made no difference.

Hmmmm, not sure if it was in the reading room but if so, that does explain things.

Okay, here's my speculation as to how this went down, finally getting some pieces of the puzzle.

There was set up a 9/11 commission "reading room" that was overseen by the National Archive staff, and likely reviewed by the CIA types for national security, as according to the leak it was the NA staff that reported it. The reading room had been properly supplied with all pertinant material as ordered to the Archive staff.

Sandy Burglar went to the reading room and tried to remove, or DID remove, some of the documentation available to others as part of the shared system. NA staff saw Burglar stuffing some of the stuff down his pants and leaving.

I think the justice department set up a sting. So they replaced one of the copies that Burglar took out of the reading room with some sort of specially watermarked copy. Daring him, when he returned to steal more stuff, to RE-STEAL the copy that he had stolen yesterday...oh drat, Burglar said to himself, someone figured out that this was missing....

That's how they caught him. A warrant and boom, that special watermarked copy was in his house.

I don't buy that Burglar made a "mistake" and forgot all the originals were safe back in the NA. Burglar wanted to remove those documents from the reading room so that whoever else had access to those documents wouldn't see them. And why would they ask to see them if they didn't know they exist? It was a desperate move but hey, another FOB eats dirt for the King and Queen.

Yesterday the justice dept notified the 9/11 commission about the investigation because, well I think they had to. Someone from the 9/11 commission leaked it.

However it's been weirdly phrased up to this missive, I think Bruce Lindsay was contacted simply because Burglar gave him Lindsay's name as his attorney. Burglar was probably told all that stuff about an attorney and hey, he's entitled to his rights under the constitution too.

Okay, back to more wool-gathering.

1,769 posted on 07/20/2004 9:38:32 AM PDT by Fishtalk (Once a liberal and victim of all the spin. Ask me to interpret.)
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To: LisaMalia

Berger Docugate ping


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The New York Post: (212) 930-8000

ABC: 212-456-7777
CBS: 212-975-4321
NBC: 212-664-4444
CNN: 404-237-0234
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NY York Daily News (212) 210-NEWS
LA Times 877-554-4000


1,770 posted on 07/20/2004 9:39:59 AM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: Semi Civil Servant
"It depends on what the definition of 'every' is."

In criminal terms, the words to flag are "to my knowledge", stated by the man who was in control of, in possession of, and stole said documents to begin with. If he HAD handed over all the requested documents, he'd have said "all the requested documents were handed over to the commission" without hesitation. That would have been the gut reaction of an innocent man.

This sounds too much like Hillary getting a sudden hankering to play WhiteHousefrau and shred White Water documents that could have resulted in her conviction.

1,771 posted on 07/20/2004 9:46:05 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: LisaMalia

Yeah, I saw Kip Bond, too. I expected it from the democrat, but Bond has joined the "move along, nothing to see here" crowd.


1,772 posted on 07/20/2004 9:53:16 AM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: Graymatter

Denny Hastert ping. Good job, Speaker.


1,773 posted on 07/20/2004 9:54:14 AM PDT by LincolnLover (LSU: 2003 National Football Champions, GEAUXING FOR TWO in 2004!)
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To: Alamo-Girl; hattend

Useful? Alamo-Girl, your records are historic!! Thanks!!!

Hey, I've got it stuck in my head that Berger testified for the Starr report, but can't find anything on it. Do you recall that?


1,774 posted on 07/20/2004 9:56:25 AM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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Federal probe targets Clinton's national security adviser
From John King, CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Samuel Berger, former President Clinton's national security adviser, is under federal criminal investigation for allegedly removing classified documents and handwritten notes from a National Archives screening room during preparations for his testimony before the 9/11 commission.

Sources familiar with the investigation confirmed it to CNN on Monday.

The sources told CNN the investigation began last October, after Berger spent roughly 30 hours over three or four days reviewing what one said was "tens of thousands of pages" of Clinton administration documents to comply with a request from the 9/11 commission.

Berger was designated as the official from the Clinton administration who would review documents relevant to commission inquiries. He was also a witness at the 9/11 commission hearings and reviewed records to prepare for his personal testimony.

The Associated Press first reported the story Monday.

In a statement, Berger acknowledged that he removed his handwritten notes without first having them reviewed for sensitive information, and he also said he "inadvertently" removed some of the classified documents he had reviewed during his time at the Archives.

National Archives' policy requires that if someone reviews classified documents and wants to take their handwritten notes with them, those notes must first be cleared by archivists.

In his statement, Berger said that "when I was informed by the Archives there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had, except for a few documents that apparently I had accidentally discarded."

"I deeply regret the sloppiness involved, but I had no intention of withholding documents from the commission, and to the contrary, to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced," he said.

A Berger associate, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the FBI served warrants and searched both Berger's home and office earlier this year as part of the investigation.

A government official familiar with the investigation said that some documents are still missing.

Among the documents Berger says he inadvertently took, the sources confirmed, were drafts of a Clinton administration "after action" report on efforts to thwart al Qaeda around the time of the millennium.

Archives officials told investigators that at least one draft of that report is still missing.

Officials close to Berger said it was ludicrous to suggest that he was trying to hide damaging information from the 9/11 commission.

They said the drafts were written by Clinton counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke and had been changed somewhat, as is customary, as the drafts were circulated among relevant agencies and officials.

But the sources close to Berger said there were other copies of the drafts, that the commission had the final version of the report and that Clarke had said there were not significant changes during the drafting process.

The sources said the FBI had contacted Berger several months ago and that he hired Lanny Breuer, who has since been in contact with prosecutors.

Berger has stressed his willingness to cooperate, but investigators have not asked to speak directly with him as yet, the sources said.

Asked if it unusual that Berger has not yet been interviewed, the government official familiar with the investigation responded that investigators would do so once they are satisfied they have the evidence they need.

Sources close to Berger said they did not believe there was a grand jury impaneled as part of the investigation and that to the best of their knowledge, Clarke and other Clinton administration officials who have knowledge of the documents in question -- and specifically about any changes made in the drafting process of the millennium report -- have not been questioned.

One of these sources questioned the timing of the leak, three days before the public release of the 9/11 commission report.

"There is a story here, and Sandy concedes he made an inadvertent mistake," one source, a former Clinton administration colleague, said. "But this has been kept confidential for months. So why now?"

A Justice Department spokesman had no comment when asked about the Berger probe.

Berger currently serves as an informal adviser to the campaign of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry.

http://cnn.law.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=CNN.com+-+Federal+probe+targets+Clinton%27s+national+security+adviser+-+Jul+20%2C+2004&expire=-1&urlID=11058358&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2004%2FLAW%2F07%2F20%2Fberger.probe%2Findex.html&partnerID=2013


1,775 posted on 07/20/2004 9:56:25 AM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: theophilusscribe
"After he shredded them, burned them, and cast the ashes into the Atlantic ocean..."

...Accidentally, of course.

1,776 posted on 07/20/2004 9:57:07 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb

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1,777 posted on 07/20/2004 9:58:25 AM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: LisaMalia
They are all saying no biggie because it is big and they want the Dems to bring him down not the Republicans. Berger will be charged IMHO and the less the Republicans say about it the better. Let the investigation take its course. There will be plenty of time to be visibly outraged later.
1,778 posted on 07/20/2004 9:58:38 AM PDT by babaloo
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To: prairiebreeze
"About the POW in VietNam evidence when Kerry chaired that Senate Select Committee and railroaded the conclusions through."

Yes, he did. McCain was on the committee with Kerry. Waiting for him to bite Bush in the hand...he normally does it about once a week, so he's overdue.

1,779 posted on 07/20/2004 10:02:05 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
...Accidentally, of course.

Well, of course! He didn't mean to do it, but President Bush made him so mad about the whole Iraq/Halliburton thing, that he was enraged, grabbed the fisrt thing he saw and started shredding.

Really, if you think about it, its Bush's fault. And Halliburton, too.

1,780 posted on 07/20/2004 10:02:06 AM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: princess leah

I was wondering the same thing. Does the National Archives have cameras in their viewing rooms. I would think they did. If so, Berger is in a boatload of trouble.

It's like Winona RIder saying she inadvertantly took merchandise from one department to another - she didn's shoploift. WHen the video came out of her stuffing clothes in her bag, GUILTY.

If there is one, show me a the video


1,781 posted on 07/20/2004 10:03:38 AM PDT by Republican Red (“‘I could give you an answer to that question if you give me a little time to think about it.’)
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To: Howlin
Top of the hour CBS radio news reports that Hastert has made a statement about the seriousness of stealing national security docs. They use an actual recording of Dascle's voice, saying that the timing of the "leak" is very suspect.

Timing of the leak seems to be the only RAT spin for the day. Meanwhile is John effin still on vacation?

1,782 posted on 07/20/2004 10:05:19 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("It's the Hypocrisy, Stupid,")
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To: Republican Red

Should Sandy Berger face charges for taking classified documents?

83.02% Yes
16.98% No

Court tv poll


1,783 posted on 07/20/2004 10:06:50 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Liberals are like catfish ( all mouth and no brains )(bottom feeders))
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To: Republican Red

I don't know if there is video, but the Berglar was observed by a guard and subsequently set up with a sting.


1,784 posted on 07/20/2004 10:07:03 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Rennes Templar
Unfortunately for her, Martha Stewart was a strong supporter of Hitlery Clinton. It is my theory that somehow Stewart was handed over to the US Attorney to protect Terry McAuliffe. McAuliffe, who helped the Clintons purchase their house in New York, is Clinton's handpicked man running the DNC. McAuliffe sold his stock in Global Crossing two weeks before it tanked and made $17 million on the sale. So either he had inside information or he's awfully lucky.

I don't usually subscribe to conspiracy theories, but I can't understand how McAuliffe has escaped any investigation into such a large transaction that doesn't pass any smell test. I am also amazed that so many people, like Berger and Hubbell, are willing to fall on their swords for the Clintons. I am also amazed at the many people who end up as patsies of the Clinton machine. In Martha Stewart's case I think she's the perfect Clinton patsy. She's widely disliked, rich, and unaware.

1,785 posted on 07/20/2004 10:12:37 AM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Michael Moore sits on a cracked toilet seat eating a cheeseburger with e coli stained fingers.)
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To: AuntB
Thank you so much for the encouragements and for your question!:

Hey, I've got it stuck in my head that Berger testified for the Starr report, but can't find anything on it. Do you recall that?

I do not recall that he testified, but I seriously doubt it because Clinton used executive privilege to keep him from testifying even before the Senate Intelligence Committee wrt espionage:

Fox News 6/9/99 Reuters "...The White House Wednesday rejected Republican calls for National Security Adviser Sandy Berger to testify to Congress on the investigation into allegations China stole U.S. nuclear weapons secrets. "As far as I know, there are no plans now for any formal testimony,'' White House spokesman Joe Lockhart told reporters. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Shelby, a Republican of Alabama, has said he intends to ask Berger to testify on his awareness of the investigation and what he told Clinton about it. Tuesday, Shelby said, "I believe it's important for Mr. Berger to come before the intelligence committee. I hope he will not assert executive privilege because these questions are too important...I would be really disappointed if he refused.''...But he cited issues of executive privilege in saying cabinet-agency executives should testify rather than members of Clinton's executive staff such as Berger. "There is a traditional and constitutional argument that many administrations have taken about White House staff testifying versus other members of the administration that are confirmable (by the Senate),'' Lockhart said. ...."

And that was something with which he was personally involved!

The Washington Times 6/20/99 James Inhofe "...The breach of the design of the W-88 miniaturized nuclear warhead--which happened in the 1980s and was discovered in 1995--is enormously significant to America's national security. According to Paul Redmond, the CIA's former counterintelligence chief who caught Soviet spy Aldrich Ames, it is "far more damaging to the national security than Aldrich Ames," and "as bad as the Rosenbergs." The Rosenbergs were executed for compromising atomic bomb secrets to the Soviets. The idea Sandy Berger of the White House National Security Council--who was fully briefed about the W-88 technology breach in April 1996--did not immediately communicate this information to the president is preposterous. Mr. Berger now claims he did not tell the president until early 1998, or perhaps July 1997, depending on which of his two stories you want to believe. I don't believe either one because neither makes sense. Mr. Berger is a political operative, a longtime Clinton friend and confidant--not to mention, a pretty smart guy. He attended all the major 1996 Clinton campaign strategy meetings. When he learned China had stolen the W-88--the crown jewel of the U.S. nuclear arsenal--is it plausible he did not immediately tell the president ? No, not unless you want to assume a level of incompetence at the White House that even this administration's harshest critics do not believe for a minute...."


1,786 posted on 07/20/2004 10:16:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

"Gergen tells N-B-C's "Today" show the incident is "more innocent than it looks." "

Oh, sure, innocent people always hide documents in their socks.


1,787 posted on 07/20/2004 10:18:12 AM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: Howlin

"I don't think they have all the facts yet, just Berger's version."

Papers inadvertently jumped into Berger's underpants...and they say this with a straight face!


1,788 posted on 07/20/2004 10:23:45 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Alamo-Girl

I was reading those excerpts last night...until 2 am...oh, my! Anyway, forgetfulness seems to be Berger's strong suit. Forgets to tell Clinton for 18 mos. that secrets have been stolen from Los Alamos, forgets that he stuffs documents in his pants......I'm sure there's more!!

The media seems concentrated on the "timing" of this story.....they'll find a way to blame Pres. Bush. When Bush took office I kept saying NO ONE deserves the mess Clinton left him. I hope I live long enough to see the Clinton's crew get the blame they deserve....sigh....


1,789 posted on 07/20/2004 10:24:38 AM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Timing of the leak seems to be the only RAT spin for the day.

Their spin often takes the form of accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

I suspect the democrats knew this would come out eventually, and feared its impact would be far more damaging in the fall right before the election. So they pull a clinton favorite tactic, leaking it themselves in July, in hopes it will burn itself out well in advance of the election and counting on the American public's short attention span--all the while hopping up and down and squealing about republican timing.

1,790 posted on 07/20/2004 10:26:01 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Fishtalk

I just can't comprehend what on earth the Clintons have on Sandy Berger to make him pull a stunt like this. What kind of database do these evil creatures keep? It happens over and over again--people all around them fall on their swords and the Toon and the Beast just keep on rolling along. Amazing.


1,791 posted on 07/20/2004 10:27:16 AM PDT by Grandma Pam
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To: Fishtalk; theophilusscribe

Fish: You said you think the Justice Dept. set up a sting.

I've read that the Archives notified Berger on Oct. 2 that there was a problem. The Archives inspector general then began investigating and didn't turn it over to the FBI until January. So any "sting" was set up by the archives.

THEO: Amazing how fast this story is developing.

Now we know the disappeared "drafts" were written by Richard Clarke at Berger's behest. I bet Clarke's involved in this. He's developed almost an almost bigger interest in rearranging history than the Toons.

John King's story reveals a new spin angle: "Hey! What does it matter is he took a few lousy drafts...after all, the commission has the FINAL MEMO".

From my recollection of all the lawyers on TV during the Toon administration, it's not a good sign for Berger that he hasn't been interviewed.


1,792 posted on 07/20/2004 10:28:32 AM PDT by Timeout ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, first inaugural)
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To: Timeout
Now we know the disappeared "drafts" were written by Richard Clarke at Berger's behest. I bet Clarke's involved in this.

Just heard Rush state this and went right to the end of this thread and sure enough, see you guys are on top of it. Why aren't we surprised?

1,793 posted on 07/20/2004 10:30:04 AM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: ohioWfan
If it becomes a front page story there will be pressure on him to distance himself or take aleave from campaign." But not to worry, this "doesn't reflect on Sen. Kerry."

It should have ALREADY BEEN FRONT PAGE NEWS! What a baffoon! Doesn't reflect on Sen. Kerry?!!! WHAT!!!! And Gergen calls Berger an "honorable man?!!!" How laughable!!!! IS THERE NOT EVEN ONE HONEST, DECENT MEMBER OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY? ... someone who could come forth and just be honest, truthful, righteous...a LOVER of AMERICA and all that is AMERICA and all it stands for to be called AMERICAN?! Truly sad to say...I don't think so...not at all...not EVEN one.... :-(

1,794 posted on 07/20/2004 10:30:12 AM PDT by nfldgirl ("It was on a Monday, somebody touched me! ... must have been the hand of the Lord!")
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To: Republican Red

You can be pretty sure there is a video otherwise Burglar would have used the Clinton defense: Deny, Deny, Deny!!! His admission of guilt means that he was caught redhanded on videotape.


1,795 posted on 07/20/2004 10:30:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: AuntB
Indeed. Timing will become an issue, but it may work to our benefit as well, i.e. when did the Kerry campaign first learn of this and how long did they keep Berger as advisor afterwards? Ditto for Wilson...

Of course, only FoxNews and Rush et al will pursue it ... but it would make for a great advertisement.

1,796 posted on 07/20/2004 10:32:00 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LisaMalia

"If we can't get our own party reps to say this is an outrage....ohhh, this just really ticks me off."

I know how you feel. It's like watching the mother with the awful, bratty, fit-throwing kid who says very softly.....'now honey'.

Lott took the same stance this morning. Bond did take the opportunity to say that Kerry needed to indicate national security is an issue he takes seriously since Berger is an advisor.


1,797 posted on 07/20/2004 10:35:57 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: AuntB
When Bush took office I kept saying NO ONE deserves the mess Clinton left him.

I was saying THANK GOD Bush will be in there to preserve evidence from the Toon administration. If it had been Gore, all this would've disappeared a long time ago.

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Media note:

I tuned to CNN a while ago and Wolf was interviewiing Susan Page, who wrote the Berger article for USA Today. I only caught the tail end of it.

Wolf was saying to her, "Well, I bet it's going to get a lot more prominent play in those other papers' front pages tomorrow." Susan said yes, she agreed.

Wolf then remarked that she'd covered Berger for a long time. Did this sound like the Berger she knows? Page: "No. I've always known him to be straight forward in his dealings with me. This isn't like him at all." [Wish I knew what they'd been talking about...]

1,798 posted on 07/20/2004 10:36:18 AM PDT by Timeout ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, first inaugural)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Should Sandy Berger face charges for taking classified documents?

You can bet you sweet bippy the rest of us would be charged...especially those who work for defense contractors or other federal agencies/departments, who work close to anything dealing with national defense. SHAME on HIM!!! Rush is right...if this had been Condi Rice or any other Republican, this would be front-page, 24-hour, non-stop news coverage/commentary. Heard it's on page 17 of the NY Slimes and on the interior of the WPost as well. Sickening!

1,799 posted on 07/20/2004 10:37:12 AM PDT by nfldgirl ("It was on a Monday, somebody touched me! ... must have been the hand of the Lord!")
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To: AuntB

This reminds me of the Senate Republicans discovering the memo with the Democrat plan to influence of an affirmative action court decision by preventing a judicial appointment before it was decided, and other important stuff about how the Dems were influenced to block judicial appointments...and the story became, how did the Republicans get the memo, and Republican heads roll. Democrat senators, along with Gergen, are already telling the media how suspicious this news breaking now is...

The Dems are trying to change this to the "timing of the release of this information." This can't be allowed to happen! This is HUGE -- I mean, I thought this was huge last night, but in his SOCKS?! This is bigger than Watergate. As Hugh Hewitt and Rush Limbaugh have said, among others, if this was Condi Rice just imagine what would be going on in the media today.


1,800 posted on 07/20/2004 10:38:44 AM PDT by GOPrincess
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