'Perfectly Logical' Anti-Voter Fraud Bill Faces Tough Road

Agape Press ^ | 07-19-2004 | Chad Groening

[NewRomeTacitus]

A Colorado congressman is praising a bill recently introduced in the House that would curb voter fraud by requiring voters to actually prove their citizenship.

It is called the Federal Election Integrity Act of 2004 (H.R. 4530). Introduced by Illinois Republican Henry Hyde, it is designed to amend the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, also known as the "Motor Voter Bill." That Clinton-era legislation has been criticized because it provides no safeguards from illegal aliens being able to register to vote.

That is why one of the stated purposes of Hyde's legislation is to prevent fraud in federal elections. Tom Tancredo of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus says illegal alien voting has been a serious problem.

"There's been plenty of voter fraud -- and there are members of Congress who are affected by it," the Caucus chairman says. He cites one of the more blatant examples of voter fraud which took place in California when Bob Dornan lost his congressional seat because illegal aliens were apparently able to register and vote.

"And there are plenty of others," Tancredo says. "And that's just at the congressional level. It's all over the United States at state and local elections."

The Colorado congressman says the bill provides logical safeguards. "It's just to provide aid, especially to secretaries of state throughout the country, in order to make sure that the election laws are followed, requiring people to provide election officers with proof of citizenship," he says. And despite such provisions that make "perfectly logical" sense, the lawmaker says the bill faces very difficult circumstances.

Even though the bill goes a long way toward ensuring that illegal aliens cannot vote, Tancredo says he is not optimistic about its chances to pass. "You ask yourself: 'Is this not amazing [that] you ask somebody to, in fact, prove their citizenship before they vote? This is going to a problem?' But it will be," he assures.

Tancredo is among the 16 co-sponsors of H.R. 4530, as are Representatives Rosco Bartlett of Maryland, Sam Johnson of Texas, and Roger Wicker of Mississippi.

[NewRomeTacitus]

Mr. Hyde's performance of late has been awesome compared to his start as the Republican whipping boy of the Chicago Democrat machine. As our nation's newest celebrity prisoner likes to say: "That's a good thing."

[NewRomeTacitus]

If you're not a citizen stay the designated distance from the polls. Muchos gracius.

[Happy2BMe]

Just put your hands in the air and back s l o w l y away from the poll booth, Mr. Gonzales.

[NewRomeTacitus]

They did screw B1-Bob and nary one investigation. This is an attempt to insure that won't happen again.

[Missouri]

That Clinton-era legislation has been criticized because it provides no safeguards from illegal aliens being able to register to vote.

I think that was part of the plan.

[longtermmemmory]

FL requires a photo ID.

How hard could it be to get a US passport?

[Robert A Cook PE]

Motor-Voter's SPECIFIC intent was to get as many registered (democratic!) as possible -

That's why they opened it ON DEMAND when you get a library card, collect food stamps, collect free food during give-away programs, go to free thanksgiving dinners and Christmas dinners, driver's licenses, and while getting ANY government services of ANY kind.

The more (democrats) are registered, the easier it is for democrats to commit multiple-voting fraud.

[itsahoot]

They did screw B1-Bob and nary one investigation.

The leadership hated B1 Bob, so they let this slide, and they will never put that genie back in the bottle. Believe it or not, some states are trying to make it legal for illegals to vote in state/city elections.

[NewRomeTacitus]

I have my fun but I say this in deadly seriousness:
The Democrats, dependent on bamboozled minorities, disaffected radicals and assembly line draftees who can't even speak our language prove themselves unworthy of leadership by indulging in all those tactics. They can chat up enough BS during a Library Outreach to float a hot-air balloon but none of it would blow out a match back on the real world. Victimization, Balkanization and false accusations are not the foundation of rational policy. Those are the foundations of failure and the booty call of an America ready to be the U.N.'s bitch.

I don't like how our current President (and his father) have set precedents for that scenario. Today we have him (somewhat controllable) and a traitor capable of anything. My resentment has built an ulcer on my ulcer, yet there it remains. Lesser evil it must be because I can't afford terrorism in my parking lot.

I have a point here. If we paid more attention to measures like this, supported them through great services like NumbersUSA and mentioned them to a few more people than we usually would momentum would shift from the corrupt to the concerned. The corrupt depend on our cynicism and giving up. Whenever we buck up they fold. Raise hell, people; it's not just therapeutic, it's doing good.

[null and void]

How hard could it be to get a US passport?

Although it's not extraordinarily difficult. It is time consuming. And you have to prove your citizenship...

[LNewman]

I am SERIOUSLY doubting the "tough road" part, but this story otherwise MADE MY DAY. Last presidential election, I decided, belatedly (I'm no youngster), to dip my toes in the poll worker waters, and they up and made me precinct inspector.

Twas not a purdy site with all those prominently-displayed "ya'll-don't-need-no-proof-that-you're-from-this-planet" signs ... especially when the guys wearing Korean Vet hats (amongst others) came up to the table and had to "say their piece/peace."

It's wrong, plain and simple. I couldn't debate and/or encourage ... it was not my position. Also on that day, the local paper featured a political humorist's column which, in part, made reference to the idiocy of poll workers ... volunteers.

I was LUCKY to have as my bilingual contingent a couple of college students, AS my ORIGINAL "bilinguals" spoke little (NO) English beyond "yes" and "no." When I reported it beforehand, I was told it was the result of an "outreach" effort(!) ... FROM WHERE (?) ... OAXACA!!??

I've received my notice, recently, inquiring as to my willingness and/or ability to participate once again. I'm marginally ashamed that I hesitated. OF COURSE, I'll participate! Most likely not as precinct inspector though. :)

This is my personal call to all hesitant prospective FR poll workers. It's a full-on education! DO IT!

[neverdem]

This Hyde bill would be great, but it would still have to get through the Senate, which is mission impossible. Those 1993 RINOs in the Senate were, and to the extent that they still are, useless at best.

[NewRomeTacitus]

Thank you so much for illustrating what's going on and forging ahead despite their obvious attempts at corruption. I'm really ticked to hear that they attempt to drag decorated veterans into their scamming (as if they automatically assume you to be senile). Bless you and thank you again for our service past and present.

[NewRomeTacitus]

your service.

[LNewman]

Oh He, who is in charge of all tag lines! You are awesome!

BTW, I'm also not that old ... what ever "that old" means. :)

Later.

[LNewman]

My vets/our vets that live in my area, we vote here, we live here. They did so before me though I've been here for some time.

Best to you and yours.

Take care

[Bogolyubski]

I've got bad news for you. Illegal Aliens are already allowed to vote (supposedly in local elections only - hahaha) in several locales, including cities in Maryland and some in Kalifornistan and Oregonistans . You can search Michelle Malkin's site for the citations.

As we can all see, Bush and Rove are leading the charge against such vote fraud and blatant violation of the law. Just repeat: Diversity is our strength! Diversity is our strength! Diversity is our strength! Diversity is our strength!

[NewRomeTacitus]

Oh please. I'm an overeducated idiot with no papers to show for it nor connections to keep myself above poverty (apparently my truthfulness is not valued by employers). I can't make myself kiss ass or put myself over as something I'm not. I'm on my sixth month without a job at the end of my savings because I refuse to lie. I'm still hopeful while the wolf is at the door. I've been applying for jobs Americans are supposedly too lazy to do only to receive weird rejections (too knowledgeable, too specialized, not what we're looking for, blah blah blah). What it is is that I'm a 40-something year old white guy who embarrasses similar guys asking for a job they (meaning personnel wonks) consider beneath them. Perhaps those guys have played a significant part in the mythos of "lazy Americans" while I was blithely unaware of shifting demographics. I don't know but giving up isn't in my genes (they don't like much aggression, either).

So I'm having a hard time but still put time in for the country. The country always took care of me one way or another. My faith in it and God is probably the ultimate proof of my incompetence. Until that fails I'll continue and strive. My apologies for ranting.

[longtermmemmory]

It is a photo ID and it proves US citizenship.

It is something worth having for all US Citizens.

[reformedliberal]

What do we do when our elected Senators and Representatives ignore us? My Senator, Russ Finegold, does not accept emails. He replies to mailed letters w/boilerplate and sometimes with the exact same press release to which I am responding. He is MIA outside of his stronghold of Madison. He sends aides to the boonies, where there are Republicans. My critter, Ron Kind, is Hillary's sock puppet. He makes it perfectly clear he only represents Democrats. He has turned his back and walked away from constituents, after asking them their party affiliation, if they reply Independent.

The State and local media simply takes dictation from these incompetent partisans and never questions them or examines them.

I have been totally disenfranchised since Steve Gunderson decided not to run again. Yes, I know his orientation, but he did his job, met face to face with us and was accessible & accountable. I once asked him if he thought this nation was still governable. It was in a public meeting shortly before he decided to not run again. He looked straight at me and said:"I am afraid to examine that question."