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John and Ken Announce GOP Political Human Sacrifice Finalists (Democrat Joe Baca also Targeted)
John and Ken Show Website ^ | July 19th, 2004

Posted on 07/19/2004 7:45:50 PM PDT by Sabertooth

Monday, July 19th, 2004

Political Human Sacrifice
Posted by The John and Ken Show @ 3:37 pm  

Here are the poll results from the Political Human Sacrifice Phase 1:

1) David Dreier - District 26 - 52.37%
2) Chris Cox - District 48 - 13.35%
3) Mary Bono - District 45 - 10.69%
4) Darrell Issa - District 49 - 6.05%
5) Dana Rohrabacher - District 46 - 4.65%

In the next few weeks, we will invite each elected official to prove to us why they should not be “Sacrificed". We will be asking them to do various tasks, with your input as well, to prove that they are protecting California taxpayers from the illegal alien takeover. Keep listening to John and Ken on KFI AM 640 from 3-7p, because the blue-blazered, Washington elite are being exposed on the issue.

Who is running against Joe Bacca?

Ed Laning!

Born June 27, 1957 in San Bernardino, Ca. Grew up in Fontana where I met my wife Cindy. We were married on September 15, 1979 and resided in Fontana until 1986. In 1986 we moved to Hesperia, Ca. while we built our home where we now reside in Oak Hills, Ca. We have raised three sons and now are enjoying a grandson and looking forward to another grandchild in August. In 1988 I founded a commercial construction company, Arrowhead Timber Structures. We supply and install roof structures on commercial buildings. We attend Holy Family Catholic Church in Hesperia, Ca. where I also play the guitar and mandolin with the church choir. Read more about Joe at laningforcongress.com.

Check out the voting results from San Bernardino County for 2002.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: baca; daviddreier; dreier; immigration; joebaca; johnandken; kfi; kfi640
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John and Ken said they would try to book each of the five finalists for an hour or two over the next couple of weeks. Darrel Issa's office has already contacted them, and he appears eager to come on the show. Not sure if they've heard from anyone else.

David Dreier, the runaway vote-getter, was on Hugh Hewitt today opposite the John and Ken Show, and I didn't hear any mention of the problems his unpopularity on the Illegal Alien issue might cause for his chances at re-election. Then again, we're talking about Hugh Hewitt's weakest issue.


1 posted on 07/19/2004 7:45:53 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Victoria Delsoul; Marine Inspector; FITZ; Ajnin; Pelham; Travis McGee; sarcasm; harpseal; RonDog; ..





FYI


2 posted on 07/19/2004 7:47:24 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth

What is the meaning of 'human sacrifice'? As in 'made an example of'?


3 posted on 07/19/2004 7:50:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sabertooth
"David Dreier, the runaway vote-getter, was on Hugh Hewitt today opposite the
John and Ken Show, and I didn't hear any mention of the problems his
unpopularity on the Illegal Alien issue might cause for his chances at re-election.
Then again, we're talking about Hugh Hewitt's weakest issue. "

David Dreier has gone over to the darkside...

4 posted on 07/19/2004 7:56:30 PM PDT by hoot2
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To: Sabertooth

Irrelevant. I think you were the only person listening to KRLA rather than J&K.


5 posted on 07/19/2004 7:57:01 PM PDT by mbraynard
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To: Sabertooth

Ha ha ha ha ha! Baca Baca Baca Baca Baca Baca (Power Up) Baca Baca Baca Baca Baca (turn left to avoid Blinky) Baca Baca Baca Baca Baca (redirect conversation) Baca Baca Baca Baca (Boxer Feinstein) Baca Baca Baca...

Whew, Political Action Committee Man really goes through the quarters!


6 posted on 07/19/2004 7:57:04 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Give us your eager, your industrious, your talented yearning to assimilate...)
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To: Sabertooth
Issa??

Wasn't he sacrificed for his pro-Islam comments just asfter 9-11??

7 posted on 07/19/2004 7:59:38 PM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com........................www.bushcountryketchup.com)
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To: Sabertooth

I didn't hear the interview, but Hewitt thereafter, when I did hear him, was gushing with praise about Drier (the most powerful man representing California in the Congress, the smartest, etc). Hewitt is very partisan. I don't know if it is an act, or a firmly held belief, but his political analysis is often quite silly, and wrong. But I like Hugh nonetheless. It should be interesting.


8 posted on 07/19/2004 8:05:19 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Sabertooth
I love John & Ken but disagree with their "this will get their attention" methodology on this one.

Because replacing Dreier with a liberal Democrat -- one who, contrary to John & Ken's insistence to the contrary, likely WILL be difficult to unseat once an incumbent -- will SO improve the situation on immigration! NOT.

John & Ken would be good surgeons in the clinic of Cut Off Nose To Spite Face, LLP.

(Not that I'm terribly concerned for Dreier. He won his 2002 race by over a 30-percentage-point margin.)

9 posted on 07/19/2004 8:07:34 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: skeeter
What is the meaning of 'human sacrifice'? As in 'made an example of'?

In the interests of multicultural diversity (and staying on theme) I think it should be done following time-honored Aztec custom.

10 posted on 07/19/2004 8:14:00 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: pogo101
I love John & Ken but disagree with their "this will get their attention" methodology on this one.

I'm taking a wait and see approach. Not that it matters, I'm not in Dreier's district. In an off year, I'd advocate jettisoning Dreier in a heartbeat. However, the dynamics of a Presidential year, especially this one, make the matter more complex.

Dreier used to be pretty good on Illegals in the 1990s, but flipped and became an appeaser about the time George W. became the leader of the GOP. I find him to be an opportunistic microphone whore.

My choice will be easy, though, because my own Congressman is Democrat Howard Berman, House co-sponsor with Chris Cannon (R- Idaho) of the AgJOBS Amnesty for Illegals.


11 posted on 07/19/2004 8:16:40 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth

Chris Cannon is from Utah. I know it is easy to mix the two states up. :)


12 posted on 07/19/2004 8:19:22 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
I didn't hear the interview, but Hewitt thereafter, when I did hear him, was gushing with praise about Drier (the most powerful man representing California in the Congress, the smartest, etc).

It's easy to be effusive about the brains of someone with whom you share common blindspots.

Hewitt is very partisan. I don't know if it is an act, or a firmly held belief, but his political analysis is often quite silly, and wrong. But I like Hugh nonetheless. It should be interesting.

Hugh's a good sport, and very generous with Freepers.

I think he trails John and Ken, as well as Larry Elder, in the afternoon drive slot in SoCal, though. I wonder how or whether he'll respond if John and Ken stretch their ratings gap over the Illegal Alien issue, particularly if Dreier ends up as the target.


13 posted on 07/19/2004 8:21:30 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth

I'm all for knocking off Drier but they should have started this over a year ago and had a good candidate ready for the primary. It can't happen for 2 years now.

Issa is totally safe, this is a high Republican registration district.


14 posted on 07/19/2004 8:22:39 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: skeeter

John & Ken are going to target a single southern California Republican congressman , chosen by their listeners for his/her purported lack of action on illegal immigration, for defeat in November.

It looks like it's going to be Dreier. John & Ken are going to urge their listeners to vote for Dreier's opponent, regardless of how liberal he/she is, in order to send a message to the Republican party that stopping illegal immigration is the number one issue for many voters in southern California, and that the Republicans have done nothing but give lip service to the issue, while doing nothing different from the Democrats.

John and Ken are also targeting liberal Democratic congressman Joe Baca, an illegal immigrant champion, but this seems like an afterthought to make the endeavor look balanced, and will probably go nowhere, because Baca's Democratic base supports Baca on this issue, and the duo's listeners in the district almost certainly all vote against Baca anyway.

But Dreier's Republican base does not support continued inaction on illegal immigration, and their frustration level is nearing the boiling point, so there is a real potential for Dreier to lose his seat over this issue. John and Ken have a proven track record of getting their listeners to take concerted action to achieve a desired political goal, for example, they were arguably, the main force behind getting Gray Davis recalled.

Basically, John & Ken want the Repulican party to embrace the Tancredo position -- zero tolerance for illegal immigration. This puts the Republicans in a difficult position, because taking tough measures on illegal immigration is thought to be offensive to Hispanic voters, whom both parties are courting vigorously.


15 posted on 07/19/2004 8:28:31 PM PDT by Ed_in_LA
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To: Torie




Chris Cannon is from Utah. I know it is easy to mix the two states up. :)

D-uh! I knew that, what a blurt.

Larry Craig of Idaho is the AgJOBS co-sponsor with Ted Kennedy in the Senate.


16 posted on 07/19/2004 8:29:27 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: JackelopeBreeder

17 posted on 07/19/2004 8:30:17 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sabertooth

You have the Berman. I have the Sherman.

Bleah.


18 posted on 07/19/2004 8:31:33 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Sabertooth

John & Ken are pissing in the wind with this stunt. Anybody they target will easily win reelection. Instead, they should be firing up the troops to hold the feet of Supervisors Antonovich and Knabe to the fire to prevent either one of them from voting to put a sales tax increase initiative on the ballot. This is where the populism of John & Ken can do the most damage. Rumor has it that the Board of Supes will again delay their vote and probably won't vote on the issue until right before the early August deadline.


19 posted on 07/19/2004 8:32:33 PM PDT by doctor noe
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To: Sabertooth

Bump....


20 posted on 07/19/2004 8:35:11 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Sabertooth

Not to mention they both disagreed with Laura Ingraham on the speakers at the convention. Laura never stated that any of the speakers should not have been invited; just that it would have been nice to have ONE cultural conservative.

She suggested Rick Santorum. I will be at the convention, and would love to see Star Parker. What happened to diVERsity?

Sorry; off topic, but I sent my contribution to Randy Graf, who is running in the primary against pro-illegal immigration congressman (among other things) Jim Kolbe.


21 posted on 07/19/2004 8:36:53 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (I was elected in AZ as an alt delegate to the Convention. I'M GOING TO NY)
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To: doctor noe

A and K will be the two votes against the sales tax. They will be outvoted. Of course Drier will win re-election, albeit if John and Ken really fry him, by a fairly narrow margin. But he will have to sweat a bit, and defend himself, and isn't that what the public square is all about? Maybe he will tack a bit to avoid some of the more dangerous waves. Democracy is messy, and loud mouths like John and Ken have made it messier, and I love it.


22 posted on 07/19/2004 8:36:56 PM PDT by Torie
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To: skeeter

Here is the premise... one I am ready to agree with....
since the repubs are in charge and they are doing nothing but lip service in regard to illegal aliens. John and ken ( And YES they have the political clout to do this) have decided one of the 5 listed will be thrown out of office. to get the message to the elected in the state that the illegal problem must stop. How you ask? They will get Repubs and dems alike to vote for thier opponent and he will lose the next election.

You say... impossible? I will ask you one thing... who is the gov. of California? John and Ken are responsible for the recall. NO JOKE, this is NO stunt they will do this.


23 posted on 07/19/2004 8:42:53 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Torie

I am a hard HARD core repub. if john and Ken decide it is drier he WILL lose. And I think they will chose him for the shock effect. He can always run again but folks... California is pissed and we are kicking ass what ever letter is next to their names... I think their needs to be some heads rolling even at the cost to one of our own.


24 posted on 07/19/2004 8:46:03 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather
You say... impossible? I will ask you one thing... who is the gov. of California? John and Ken are responsible for the recall. NO JOKE, this is NO stunt they will do this.

Not responsible, but they were no doubt a key factor.

25 posted on 07/19/2004 8:46:24 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Sabertooth

I hate David Dreier. I am glad I am not alone .

I have to say thought he is not as bad as the majority of the NY reps (that is not saying much)


26 posted on 07/19/2004 8:49:54 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Stubborn is worse than stupid.)
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To: hoot2
David Dreier has gone over to the darkside...

I noticed.

27 posted on 07/19/2004 8:50:47 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Stubborn is worse than stupid.)
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To: Walkingfeather
You bet. After what John and Ken did to Davis, they'll be able to drop Dreier like a bad habit. Dreier knows it!

All politicos that pander and suck up to these millions of criminals need to meet the same fate....

28 posted on 07/19/2004 8:51:52 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Key factor? How bout main factor. The point is this.. ... These guys have obtained an incredible amount of political power by relating to the middle ground people. If all these guys don't come on the show they will be smacked down, if they do they will have to answer for their record which they will not be able to fix before november.

They want action not words, what most people dont realize is all 5 of these guys might go down just to make a point. This is real and this is the political game, now it is just being played on ourselves and we deserve it for not demanding accountablility.


29 posted on 07/19/2004 8:54:46 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: pogo101
Not that I'm terribly concerned for Dreier.

The district is becomming more and more Republican. Dryer is safe.

30 posted on 07/19/2004 8:55:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Ed_in_LA
But Dreier's Republican base does not support continued inaction on illegal immigration, and their frustration level is nearing the boiling point, so there is a real potential for Dreier to lose his seat over this issue.

I don't know these two doofi, but I'll lay a grand with anyone who wants to bet me that Drier will NOT lose his seat in the upcoming election.

31 posted on 07/19/2004 8:56:19 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Walkingfeather
I am a hard HARD core repub. if john and Ken decide it is drier he WILL lose.

Take me up on my bet: $1000 says Drier stays.

32 posted on 07/19/2004 8:57:43 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: RnMomof7

Hate? Shouldn't you reserve that strong a word for Kerry or Edwards?


33 posted on 07/19/2004 9:00:55 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (I was elected in AZ as an alt delegate to the Convention. I'M GOING TO NY)
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To: Walkingfeather
Key factor? How bout main factor.

Well I don't want to argue about the degree of their responsibility, but I'll agree, they were a major factor. Along with us right wing conspirators, we smoked smoked Davis. He went out in complete disgrace. A bloodless revolution. I just don't trust his replacement. I voted for McClintock, as I felt he was the only real conservative in the line up.

34 posted on 07/19/2004 9:04:18 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: pogo101

This is the point of this? To replace these guys with liberal democrats? Are they crazy?


35 posted on 07/19/2004 9:04:47 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about? Become a monthly donor and find out!!!)
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To: Sabertooth

BTW Saber. I heard you recently on Hugh's show. Very impressive, and he seems to like you and dougfrom upland very much.


36 posted on 07/19/2004 9:05:55 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about? Become a monthly donor and find out!!!)
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To: mbraynard
Wrongo Bucko.

I listen in SD every evening (its KFI not KRLA) and voted to sacrifice Duncan Hunter in both polls. (the 1st was infiltrated by political operatives and now they have big time safeguards just like the other big pollsters). K&J are not conservatives but they sure know how to get the politicians' attention.

Illegal immigration is a deal breaker in SD.
37 posted on 07/19/2004 9:07:23 PM PDT by pooh fan
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To: pooh fan
K&J are not conservatives but they sure know how to get the politicians' attention.

They aren't libs either. They generally go after those that really deserve it. That's why I like them, they aren't in anyone's pocket..

They'll go after both beltway parties and any political hack that trips, they make sure they fall. Worked damn good on Davis. Watched it for free, but I would have paid to see that.

38 posted on 07/19/2004 9:10:59 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ladyinred

J & K believe that whatever liberal Democrat replaces their "sacrifice," Dreier, will readily be defeated in the next election, and in the meantime won't make any difference in House votes. Balanced against this (they believe) is the "fact" that Dreier's defeat suddenly will "wake up" other elected representatives.

Dunno about that last part. Maybe. I sure as hell don't buy the first part.

Doesn't matter, because barring some unrelated scandal, etc., Dreier, who won by 30+% points in 2002, isn't going to lose just because John & Ken have lost their minds on this issue.

Why, Oh Why didn't they go after Republicans DURING THE PRIMARY SEASON instead? Support some unknown who's got the right views on illegals? That way, if they succeed, they're moving us RIGHTWARD instead of LEFTWARD. Leftward is nigh suicidal.


39 posted on 07/19/2004 9:18:41 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101
Dreier, who won by 30+% points in 2002, isn't going to lose just because John & Ken have lost their minds on this issue.

That's exactly what Grey Davis said about the recall.....Hehehe...

40 posted on 07/19/2004 9:24:14 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

I'm taking bets on Dreier. Where's your $100?


41 posted on 07/19/2004 9:31:57 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

Sorry, I don't bet, go to Vegas, or waste money in the stock market.


42 posted on 07/19/2004 9:33:56 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Money talks. You walk.


43 posted on 07/19/2004 9:34:40 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Sabertooth

I'm all for knocking off John and Ken

They say that Democrats are so firmly in place that they won't try to remove any even though they say Democrats are the problem here in CA.

They say they want to go after someone from the Republican party instead because they feel they can bump one off.

Being they know Democrats are the worst on the issue, but are instead going after Republicans, I consider that Republicans being under attack for NO REASON.

John and Ken were partially responsible for helping to remove the Democrat Davis, and being that was going after a major Democrat, this is a balancing act for them to go now after a Republican so they look more bipartisan.

They are full of cr@p and their sponsors need to be hammered until they drop John and Ken.

Those two are self serving whores.
Girlie men!


44 posted on 07/20/2004 2:40:59 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pogo101

I sat remove John and Ken and slam their sponsors.


45 posted on 07/20/2004 2:41:43 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

sat = say


46 posted on 07/20/2004 2:42:03 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sabertooth

While you are waiting and seeing, list all the KFI sponsors of that show and prepare to slam the sponsors.

The Democrats are the pits, but are so strongly voted for that they have to make an example of the Republicans?

That is bullsh!t. John and Ken need to be removed.


47 posted on 07/20/2004 2:44:33 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

This is not Gray Davis, this is a Republican being slammed over a Liberal Democrat so they can look bipartisan.

Get the sponsors names and slam them against John and Ken.

This is an attack on the good guys by John and Ken, the girlie men with no conscious.


48 posted on 07/20/2004 2:46:39 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sabertooth

Thanks for the ping...John and Ken do it again.


49 posted on 07/20/2004 4:22:38 AM PDT by abigail2 (What would President Reagan have done?)
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To: sinkspur

I will seriously consider it.


50 posted on 07/20/2004 6:17:06 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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