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Was Jesus a libertarian?
FountainofTruth ^ | May 19, 2001 | Doug Newman

Posted on 07/20/2004 1:23:28 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis

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To: aruanan
No. Jesus said he came to fulfill the law not to do away with it. He also said that people should obey the priests of the law

I must have missed the part where he asked Caesar to send some Centurians to do his bidding.

21 posted on 07/20/2004 8:33:18 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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22 posted on 07/20/2004 8:38:44 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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23 posted on 07/20/2004 8:51:23 AM PDT by nobdysfool (Faith in Christ is the evidence of God's choosing, not the cause of it.)
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To: freeeee
I must have missed the part where he asked Caesar to send some Centurians to do his bidding.

You want to come a little closer than Six Degrees from Kevin on this?
24 posted on 07/20/2004 8:51:59 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I think "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's"----specifically referring to taxation---qualifies. Jesus not only paid His own taxes, but paid the taxes for all his 12 disciples for 3 1/2 years.


25 posted on 07/20/2004 9:17:24 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

The author makes some really good points about how Christians should be involved in politics to assert a good influence on the rest of the world.

But most Christians are sitting around waiting to get raptured in the 2nd Coming, so they aren't about to get their hands dirty in something so awful as politics.


26 posted on 07/20/2004 9:17:50 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

in case you are interested.


27 posted on 07/20/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT by thePilgrim
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To: A CA Guy

Did you know that Ronald Reagan called libertarianism the heart and soul of conservatism?


28 posted on 07/20/2004 9:36:55 AM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: Cindy

Most Libertarians are pro-life and oppose taxpayer funding of abortions.


29 posted on 07/20/2004 9:38:59 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Remember_Salamis
Better essay: God is not an American
30 posted on 07/20/2004 10:36:33 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Ares does not spare the good, but the bad.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"Libertarians say Jesus was Libertarian Democrats say Jesus was Liberal Republicans say Jesus was Conservative"

Since Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, we only have to look at the theocracy of the ancient Israelites to see what 'party' Jesus would have been a member of.

31 posted on 07/20/2004 10:40:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: jmc813

"Did you know that Ronald Reagan called libertarianism the heart and soul of conservatism?"

Hey, don't confuse anyone here with the facts!


32 posted on 07/20/2004 10:40:41 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: MEGoody

"Since Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, we only have to look at the theocracy of the ancient Israelites to see what 'party' Jesus would have been a member of."

Hmm.. . . would that be the ancient Israelites that He called, "whitewashed sepulchres full of dead men's bones"? Or the ones He said "would travel halfway around the world to make one convert, then turn him into twice the child of hell that they already were?"

He railed against the existing "theocratic" structure of the Israelites of that day.


33 posted on 07/20/2004 10:45:04 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
"He railed against the existing "theocratic" structure of the Israelites of that day."

Yes, of that day. I'm refering to the theocracy set up when Moses was around.

34 posted on 07/20/2004 11:02:05 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: MEGoody

"Yes, of that day. I'm refering to the theocracy set up when Moses was around."

You like the idea of an Old-Testament theocracy?


35 posted on 07/20/2004 12:00:40 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
But most Christians are sitting around waiting to get raptured in the 2nd Coming, so they aren't about to get their hands dirty in something so awful as politics.

If you mean the pre-tribulation rapture, then most Christians don't even believe in that--and before the late 1700s, none of them did.
36 posted on 07/20/2004 12:15:55 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: jmc813

One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state.
(That Reagan agreed with)

One who believes in free will.
(Yes, but now when they wanted all their vice and illegal drugs, at that time they left any version of a conservative reservation.)


37 posted on 07/20/2004 12:55:16 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: aruanan

"If you mean the pre-tribulation rapture, then most Christians don't even believe in that--and before the late 1700s, none of them did."

I disagree. I know lots of people who are pre-trib believers. Plus, some of the popular prophecy teachers are pre-trib.


38 posted on 07/20/2004 1:34:59 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
"You like the idea of an Old-Testament theocracy?"

I was just pointing out that Jesus would not have been a libertarian. The issue of whether I like it or not wasn't under discussion.

39 posted on 07/20/2004 2:00:12 PM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Remember_Salamis

Was Jesus a libertarian?

NO

Jesus was and IS the Lord God himself manifest into flesh by the word of God.

No human on earth would have went through what he did to save all the humans from themselves.

The word politician doesn't occur in the KJV.

The word politics doesn't occur in the KJV.


The word politicle doesn't occur in the KJV.

Rom 9:11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.

1Th 1:4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:


Election occurs 6 times in 6 verses


40 posted on 07/20/2004 2:13:28 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Most people talk a lot, few are up for the moment. Welcome to Freerepublic.com)
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