Skip to comments.Plan to establish Muslim only villages in Trinidad and Tobago causes outrage.
Posted on 07/20/2004 11:15:07 AM PDT by Pikamax
'No gays, adulterers for Muslim villages'
By PHOOLO DANNY-MAHARAJ South Bureau
Monday, July 19th 2004
Maulana Imran Hosein
THERE is a plan to establish Muslim villages in Trinidad and Tobago.
Speaking of the plan yesterday Maulana Imran Hosein said it was born of the need to protect and preserve Islam from the ills of society such as alcohol, fornication, adultery, illegitimate children, homosexuality, lesbianism and murders.
Hosein, who was earlier this year accused by ASJA of promoting "terrorist-type" ideologies, gave the lecture on the establishment of The Muslim Village in Trinidad and Tobago during a public session at the San Fernando Technical Institute yesterday. The meeting was organised by the San Fernando Jama Masjid.ASJA,Anjuman Sunnat Ul Jamaat Association, the country's largest Muslim organisation , had said Hosein was a "strong security risk." After the charge was made he had a meeting with the police and said he came out the meeting with "profound respect for the Police Service."
At yesterday's function Hosein said the PNM's "black political and economic nationalism" had damaged the body politic through racial polarisation. "Unless we find a way out of the racial dilemma , the country will eventually capsize. "
He a said the Muslim village would transcend the politics of race to seek to establish and sustain healing the balm of a racial fraternity.
Hosein said the village should consist about" 200 or 300 families,"and should be outside the city and the majority of the residents will be Muslims, but non-Muslims will be welcome on condition that they are not hostile to Islam, and that they can conform with the norms of public conduct in the Muslim Village.
He said non-Muslims who visit the village will not be able to "walk with a bottle of beer or walk half-naked down the streets ." He said that "non-Muslims will be welcome to live with us in the village in the way they liven in the past."
He said there would be no mansions and since toilets were considered unclean places, buildings in the village will have no toilets. The village will have its own markets "and all stalls would be free of charge," but people from outside the village would be encouraged to come to the market to shop. The cemetery must be located within the residential area, so that people could visit as often as possible, he added.
The Village will establish its own primary school and combine to establish a secondary school, "but the Muslim schools would not accept any state funding, hence would not be subject to any state control," Hosein said. Education, he added, will be based entirely on a system established ed by To establish the village, Hosein spoke about three stages ,including a mass programme of public education , the establishment of week-end villages as a prelude to the permanent fixture.
No to 'Muslim only' villages, says ASJA
By PHOOLO DANNY-MAHARAJ South Bureau
Tuesday, July 20th 2004
The Anjuman Sunaat-ul- Jamaat Association (ASJA) is against the establishment of Muslim villages in Trinidad and Tobago.
"I cannot support and ASJA will not support Muslim villages in a multi-plural, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society such as the one in which we live," Yacoob Ali, ASJA president general, said.
He said Muslim villages in this society "can only be divisive and we are not for separation." Ali said ASJA, the country's largest Muslim organisation, believes in living and surviving in mainstream society "and we will continue to do so".
Such moves, he stressed, could not augur well for this society. "We are for integrating society, but we cannot pass judgment on the rest of society to say they are sinners," he said.
Muslim villages are not a medium for the preservation of Islam, he said, adding that "we cannot create a society within a society in this country and it should not be allowed".
He was referring to statements by Maulana Imran N Hosein on the establishment of Muslim villages in Trinidad and Tobago, during a lecture at the San Fernando Technical Institute on Sunday.
These villages, he said, would be free of alcohol, murder, homosexuality, children born out of wedlock and houses would not have toilets in them because toilets were considered unclean places. The lecture was organised by the San Fernando Jama Masjid.
Earlier this year ASJA accused Hosein of promoting "terrorist type ideologies" and described him as a "strong security risk".
Hosein found support for his idea from members of his audience.
Maulana Siddiq Ahmad Nasir, who spoke at the lecture about the spiritual dynamism of such a situation, said he experienced the life in two such villages in Pakistan. In such an environment, he said "no one smoked, or played music loudly." He described his experience as "exhilarating" but stressed that such villages cannot be established overnight as serious planning must go into them.
Mmmm .... sounds like paradise.
The militants have been trying to take over for years.
Heck yeah, then big a really, really tall wall around it ...with no doors.
How Abu Bakr tried to seize control of the TT government
Ban infidel toilets!
And here's one more
Hey, watch it, you forgot that Islam is a "religion of peace and tolerance".
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - thousands of dead Jews and Americans can attest to the fact that Islam is a religion of evil, death, and totalitarian intolerance.
"He said non-Muslims who visit the village will not be able to "walk with a bottle of beer or walk half-naked down the streets ." He said that "non-Muslims will be welcome to live with us in the village in the way they liven in the past."
With a little more compasion, it works for me..................
I think it's a good idea. Name it Fallujah. Anytime there's any trouble on Infidel Island, drop a laser-guided bomb on Fallujah. No Trinidadians get hurt. Problem solved.
Of course. Why settle for a couple of measly villages when your real goal is to take over the whole enchilada?
The only time you see people walking half naked with beer is during Carnaval. Other than that, what they really want to turn the whole country into a militant muslim stronghold where instead of a business suit, one wears a burqua.
"the Muslim village would transcend the politics of race to seek to establish and sustain healing the balm of a racial fraternity"
Not certain I understand the comment, but even with my limited understanding it rings a little hollow. Racial fraternity doesn't sound exactly like what the Arabs (Janjaweed) have been doing in Darfur and much of North Africa and the rest of the world. Oh well, maybe they're just heavy into the hazing part of fraternity.
"He a said the Muslim village would transcend the politics of race to seek to establish and sustain healing the balm of a racial fraternity."
Equal opportunity terrorism.
Yep. Precisely why I no longer travel [and therefore spend my money] outside the US, not even to the little socialist-lite enclaves we call the Caribbean Islands. I'm just fine with the scenery here in our 50 states.
oh wow, okay, so everywhere else in the world we're REQUIRED to show tolerance, if not acceptance of Muslim beliefs, in order to NOT be called a racist, but they want FULL segregation to keep them "pure"?? oh PULEASE.
I've seen it all now.
Trinidad is one of the beautiful islands on the earth, and hardly socialist. It is a parliment democracy similar to England. Cuba, it's definately not.
It's a joke. They really want to set up a Bakr-style madrassa. Trinidad has the largest pitch lake in the world which means $$$$$$ for their terrorism if only they could get enough of their people in government. I'll not go into why Klintoon sent Cajun Crab down there while he was in office. That's another thread.
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