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CNN: Colleagues defend Berger in documents probe (deny, deny, deny Sock story!!!)
cnnsi ^ | 20-july | cnn-si

Posted on 07/20/2004 12:03:14 PM PDT by epluribus_2

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In a statement issued late Monday, Berger said the removal of those papers was unintentional. But law enforcement sources told CNN that some of the papers he is said to have taken from the National Archives were stuffed into his socks as well as other parts of his clothing.

That allegation drew sharp responses from two of Berger's associates. President Clinton's former spokesman, Joe Lockhart, said Berger "categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks.

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Uh oh. Deny deny deny. If they don't have this on film - this story is over. Maybe they floated the "socks" angle to cover up for the pant's pocket and briefcase - i.e. story should be dismissed since (out)Fox(ed) and Rush lost their minds crowing about socks. Before you get out yer foil - this IS their historical M.O.
1 posted on 07/20/2004 12:03:17 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2
Today's spin words of the day:

Sloppy. Careless.

2 posted on 07/20/2004 12:05:53 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: epluribus_2

Those weren't socks, they were stockings!


3 posted on 07/20/2004 12:06:33 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: epluribus_2

Was "Bug-Eyed Joe" Lockhart with Berger when he stole the documents? Hmmm...is this the "talking points" fax that went out this morning to all the Clinton "Legacy Brigade"?


4 posted on 07/20/2004 12:06:44 PM PDT by TommyDale ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." --Hillary Clinton)
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To: epluribus_2
I noticed the sock denial on CNN also. The Fox story is written in such a way that it looks like the sock stuffing was admitted to by Berger & his lawyer.

Copied from the Fox Story:
Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly removed the handwritten notes by placing them in his jacket, pants and socks, and also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio.

5 posted on 07/20/2004 12:07:34 PM PDT by handy (Leahy you, you Clymer!)
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To: epluribus_2

Parse the words! He's talking about THE CAT!.....


6 posted on 07/20/2004 12:08:20 PM PDT by Red Badger (Wake me up when my 15 minutes of fame starts, so I can call my wife and let her know......)
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To: TommyDale

I think that fax went out months ago when WJC and Hill worked up their plan for the whole freakin' 9/11 commission and their legacy repair operation.


7 posted on 07/20/2004 12:09:35 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2
"categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks."

Depends on the definition of socks...

How about "leggings," "leg wear," "men's stockings," "ankle clothing"....<P. And why no mention of underwear in the denial?

8 posted on 07/20/2004 12:10:02 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: epluribus_2

On another thread there was a report that he and his lawyers admitted he stuffed his clothes and socks.


9 posted on 07/20/2004 12:10:09 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: epluribus_2

This is all about sex. Everybody does it ... Nothing to see ... Let's move on.


10 posted on 07/20/2004 12:10:34 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: epluribus_2
The papers contained information about some Muslim extermists and thus we should all move along because once again this is only about sects.
11 posted on 07/20/2004 12:11:08 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: epluribus_2; Wolfstar; Fedora; Dog; cyncooper

"The source said the 9/11 commission was briefed on the Berger investigation, but the White House was never informed of the matter."

Very interesting. One FReeper suggests that the leak was by Berger himself - notice that his lawyer was talking with the first reporter of the story.

Theory - the 9/11 commission report was going to comment on Berger. That would have created a firestorm that would detract from the presumably anti-Bush aspects of the report. So Berger came out first, his story will die out under the attention of the other matters in the report.


12 posted on 07/20/2004 12:11:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: epluribus_2

13 posted on 07/20/2004 12:11:28 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: epluribus_2
Tomorrow's headline: "Sandy Burglar Inadvertently Indicted!"

Subtitle: "Sandy Looks Sweet in Orange Jumpsuit!"
14 posted on 07/20/2004 12:11:58 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: TommyDale
Secret documents stuffed in his socks ?
I haven't had a good laugh at the Clintons' expense in years.
15 posted on 07/20/2004 12:12:18 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: epluribus_2
"categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks.

Of course he can deny that. The documents went in his briefcase. His notes went in his socks. Gotta watch clintonian denials.

16 posted on 07/20/2004 12:12:26 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: epluribus_2

Bill Richardson was on Fox News and made comments that Sandy's behavior is just Sandy's usual disheveled, disorganized self. He said Sandy has always been sloppy and this situation is only Sandy being his usual sloppy self.


17 posted on 07/20/2004 12:12:37 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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To: epluribus_2

As another Freeper noted this morning ... the "socks" angle makes it not-ordinary ... more newsworthy for its weirdness. Naturally they want to knock down Berger's penchant for bizarre thievery.


18 posted on 07/20/2004 12:12:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: epluribus_2
That allegation drew sharp responses from two of Berger's associates. President Clinton's former spokesman, Joe Lockhart, said Berger "categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks.

Lanny Davis introduced these meme this morning, in order to be able to ridicule the whole story later.

Ignore the socks, stay focused on the felonies.

M.Thatcher, I pinged you because I'd like you to introduce the fact that Lanny Davis did this to Rush, if you'd care to. It's a shame I couldn't get the message to him quicker, because it was obvious to me what Lanny was doing the minute he did it.

19 posted on 07/20/2004 12:12:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: epluribus_2

The key word is 'documents'. No one ever said he put documents in his socks. He put his notes in his socks.


20 posted on 07/20/2004 12:13:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (John Edwards: Qualifications? we don' need no steenkin' qualifications!)
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To: Shermy

Where is DEE DEE when you need a catagorical denial


21 posted on 07/20/2004 12:13:04 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: epluribus_2

Ok. As long as he did not stuff the docs in his socks I feel much better. I can live with the docs stuffed in his shirt and pants. Do the Dems really think that line of attack is going to pass muster with anyone?


22 posted on 07/20/2004 12:13:21 PM PDT by babaloo
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To: Red Badger
I hope his cell is next to Martha's at the country club.
23 posted on 07/20/2004 12:13:29 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: handy

Maybe those were rolled-up documents stuffed in the front of his pants and maybe he was just thinking about Hillary.


24 posted on 07/20/2004 12:13:41 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Restorer

To be expected from people who parse the word "is".


25 posted on 07/20/2004 12:13:44 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: epluribus_2

Well, haven't you ever had an itch on your ankle, and reached down to scratch it while you were holding a stack of papers, and accidentally left the papers down there?

Shoot, that happens to me all the time.

Why is everyone around here giving Berger a hard time?


26 posted on 07/20/2004 12:14:52 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: js1138
Beat me to it, darn it!

(Maybe the years on the crevo threads have taught us both to watch for the curveball)

27 posted on 07/20/2004 12:15:09 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (John Edwards: Qualifications? we don' need no steenkin' qualifications!)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Are we ready to...er, christen it SOCKGATE yet?
28 posted on 07/20/2004 12:15:23 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: handy
categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks

Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly plac(ed) them in his jacket, pants and socks

You have to learn Clintonspeake.

Berger never "stuffed" them in his socks. He simply "placed" them in his socks.

29 posted on 07/20/2004 12:15:38 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: M. Thatcher

I attempted to ping you but the second name was lost. Please backtrack up the thread to the message I was trying to get to you.


30 posted on 07/20/2004 12:15:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: epluribus_2

I see Joe "Lumpy Rutherford" Lockhart has resurfaced for more spin. Lockhart, Begala - it's like old times.


31 posted on 07/20/2004 12:16:20 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Right Wing Professor

Notes in socks makes perfect sense to me. Next we'll find out he has some sort of personality quirk where he feels his notes are safer in his socks. Maybe he forgets notes when he puts them in his briefcase like every normal person.


32 posted on 07/20/2004 12:16:46 PM PDT by babaloo
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To: freeperfromnj

The AP and Reuters articles said he stuffed his jacket, pants, socks and a leather file folder. What I wanna know is "isn't anyone checking them when they leave the archives?"


33 posted on 07/20/2004 12:16:48 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: epluribus_2

Somehow, when I think of the words "Clinton", "socks", and "stuffed", this wasn't the first thing that came to mind...


34 posted on 07/20/2004 12:17:35 PM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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35 posted on 07/20/2004 12:17:39 PM PDT by keat
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks."

This is lawyer talk. He is accused of putting the notes in his socks, not the missing documents.

36 posted on 07/20/2004 12:17:41 PM PDT by Henk
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To: Right Wing Professor
If there is proof he put anything from that room into his socks, there is no way he'll be able to say it was "unintentional".
37 posted on 07/20/2004 12:17:54 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Restorer
To post #3: Those weren't socks, they were stockings!

.....with or without garters?

38 posted on 07/20/2004 12:17:56 PM PDT by Max7
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To: Right Wing Professor
The key word is 'documents'. No one ever said he put documents in his socks. He put his notes in his socks.

Exactly, I always carry my notes in my socks.

39 posted on 07/20/2004 12:18:05 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas ("There are two Americas, unfortunately for Edwards, neither one voted for him." Conan O'Brien)
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To: mass55th
Bill Richardson is one sloppy dude himself. Now if only sandy burglar had been wearing cowboy boots, he coulda gotten alot more docs out.


40 posted on 07/20/2004 12:18:21 PM PDT by petercooper (In the end, Democrats are just a bunch of jackasses.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Exactly. And, aren't there cameras in such a sensitve area?


41 posted on 07/20/2004 12:18:26 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: DB
If there is proof he put anything from that room into his socks, there is no way he'll be able to say it was "unintentional".

Hey, I'm not making excuses for him, I pointing out how he's trying to weasel out of the accusation.

42 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (John Edwards: Qualifications? we don' need no steenkin' qualifications!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Wow. I feel for you guys. FR is buzzing like I have never seen on a lazy summer day. Too many burglar threads.

The VOLUME of FR traffic tells me this story has legs....


43 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:34 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: babaloo
He was "compartmentalizing" the notes...
44 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:54 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: babaloo

It doesn't matter if he stuffed 'em up his CLYMER, it's forbidden. Call him BOHICA Burger today.


45 posted on 07/20/2004 12:20:58 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: epluribus_2
President Clinton's former spokesman, Joe Lockhart, said Berger "categorically denies that he ever took documents and stuffed them in his socks.

It's quite simple really. He stuffed the documents into one sock. At no point were documents in his socks.

46 posted on 07/20/2004 12:21:04 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: petercooper

If Sandy had taken my suggestion to wear cowboy boots like this, he could have smuggled out TWICE as many documents!"

47 posted on 07/20/2004 12:21:06 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Re-elect Bush - because Kerry just doesn't have the time.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"This is all about sex. Everybody does it ... Nothing to see ... Let's move on."

Are you suggesting that Berger stuffed his pants with his socks?


48 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:10 PM PDT by Rebelbase (To democrats the truth is personal.)
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To: epluribus_2
Maybe they floated the "socks" angle to cover up for the pant's pocket and briefcase - i.e. story should be dismissed since (out)Fox(ed) and Rush lost their minds crowing about socks.

Following these Berger threads, I get the impression that CNN floated the "socks" story well ahead of Fox, then squashed it after Fox and Rush picked it up.

Your theory makes sense: notice that Lanny Davis' comments focus entirely on denying that Berger stuffed docs in his socks, not on taking the documents themselves.

Since where Bergler stuffed them is now a point of deniability for the Dems, I'll bet the Feds do have a tape.

49 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:33 PM PDT by browardchad
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CNN's John King, Kelli Arena, Bob Franken and Pam Benson contributed to this report.

CNN's got four reporters working on the Berger spin. They're in full panic mode.

50 posted on 07/20/2004 12:22:33 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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