Skip to comments.'Scientific American' Shines Spotlight On SC Dig (Topper Site - TV Tonight)
Posted on 07/20/2004 3:03:17 PM PDT by blam
Scientific American shines spotlight on S.C. dig
By DOUG NYE
Posted on Tue, Jul. 20, 2004
About 12,000 years ago, the first people to journey to the American continents did so by crossing the Bering land bridge from Asia. At least, thats what archaeologists have long believed. But tonights edition of Scientific American Frontiers examines five archaeological sites that could prove that humans walked this land much earlier.
Among the digs spotlighted is USCs Topper excavation site in Allendale County, supervised by archaeologist Albert C. Goodyear, director of the Allendale Paleo-Indian Expedition of the S.C. Institute of Archaeology and Anthropology.
Goodyear thinks the findings there could prove that people set foot in America as many as 25,000 years ago.
If, in fact, these newly discovered sites date back to 25,000 years which they could we wont stop hearing about it for another 10 years, Goodyear said. This has put us with both feet into the issue of how and when our species radiated out from the Old World. The very idea that humans could have gotten here before the Paleo-Indians 12,000 years ago is like saying weve found life in outer space. Its so contrary to the last 75 years of research.
Tonights program also shows the impact this new theory has had on the archaeological world and the heated debate that has ensued. 9 p.m., PBS, WRLK-35, cable ch. 11, digital ch.801
Rats!!! That's going to be on at the same time Ann Coulter is on Hannity & Colmes.
By the way, I know where this site is, and I know who discovered it. (I did some soil survey work in that part of the world.)
Another very interesting site
Excellent. Who discovered it?
Grrr, my local PBS is showing this at 11:00 PM.
Will have to set the VCR.
They have been dead for 25,000 years and you have the insensitivity to ask about live threads?
I don't understand, Isn't this a live thread?
Only if you're logged on.
A semi-retired soil scientist by the name of Jack Brown, of Statesboro, Georgia, who was working on contract for us on the Allendale County soil survey back then. If we ever meet (and we ought to, because I have lots of stories to tell) I'll tell you some about Jack, who was one of the wittiest, gentlest, and most interesting people I ever met.
Jack was a man of the Old South, and grew up on a plantation that was like something out of Gone With the Wind. He had an easy manner and sense of grace that few modern people had; possessed an encyclopedic knowledge of wildflowers and other native plants; and was, perhaps, the funniest person I ever met.
I found a PBS on Directv channel #384 but, it does not show this program at 8:00 or 9:00pm our time. Are you saying that I should find it on a local channel?
Hmmm, I may be more native than I thought. Do I get to build a casino now?
Thanks. It doesn't look like I'll be watching this show. If there's anything new, please communicate on this thread, thanks.
Okay. How was the program?
Excellent, thanks. Maybe I'll catch it on another broadcast some day.
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sorry, I mean to address this shorter one to the list.Conference to present evidence for Ice Age man in South CarolinaThe Topper Site, named for forester David Topper who pointed it out years ago, has yielded artifacts that reveal the presence of human beings in the Western Hemisphere 16,000 or more years ago during the last Ice Age. The site is considered to be among the four most important sites in North America for early human being occupation studies.
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Viruses May Offer New Line of EvidenceFor example, one type of the virus exists in people living along the Pacific coast of the Americas, he told scientists attending a session on genetic research. Its presence suggests the possibility "that the original settlement of the Americas might have been along an area that is now flooded, and that American Indians moved into both continents simultaneously -- or even South America first." Black said that populations of eastern Siberia do not have the virus, "so they must have come in after the migration to the Americas." Further, he said, the variations of the virus suggest that the three-wave theory of aboriginal settlement of the Americas is not an adequate explanation... Robert Foley of the University of Cambridge said in a presentation delivered by a colleague that genetics can only tell us about past populations that left descendants. Genetics, he noted, reveal nothing about peoples that died out. Applied to the study of early populations of the Americas, for example, Foley's message implies that the range of variation in past populations could be quite different than the range of variation now observed among living Native American populations.
Vol 11, no 3 (1996)
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So, what's your take on this statement? Did the diggers ignore sites in the past that did not conform to their preconceived notions or what? Maybe I shouldn't be so put out with the bone diggers, but something just doesn't smell right.
Is that going to be on SC PBS?
You missed it, it was on last night.
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Retracing the footprints of timeDirect radiocarbon dating of the Calgary site is not possible because the ancient artifacts were not found in conjunction with organic matter, such as bones or decayed plant matter, which is necessary for such testing. Absent such verification, Prof. Young dismisses the find. For one thing, he says, the artifacts are so simple they could merely be naturally-occurring rocks; he says that most informed scientists are doubtful they are tools. And even if they are tools, he adds that there is no way to be sure that they were originally situated where they were found under the gravel, since the site has served as an exposed gravel pit for the last 100 years. Comments Prof. Young: "Any dude could have put that rock there."
by Steve Sandford
September 9, 1996
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this appears to be the oldest FR topic about Al Goodyear:
Site Sheds Light on Human Arrival
Source: AP via Yahoo
Published: May 26, 2001
Posted on 05/27/2001 06:25:12 PDT by sarcasm