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The EXPLANATION: Sandy Berger is covering up Bill Clinton’s GREATEST CRIME (2004)
Free Republic | 7-2-0-04 | Bill Charleston

Posted on 07/20/2004 7:44:02 PM PDT by BILL_C

What do some of the craziest events in recent American History all have in common? No, this is not another Blue Dress story, but it is about the biggest crime Bill Clinton committed as president. It was such a small political lie for him but it turned out to have incredible ramifications to our country. Slick Willy may be headed for the title of worst president in United States history, in fact, he might even qualify for the biggest traitor label.

And further more, you don’t even suspect it happened.

Just what was Sandy Berger doing stuffing documents into his clothes while preparing for the 9-11 hearings? Lanny Davis was on natioal news earlier today saying that the leak right before the Democratic Convention just had to be politically motivated.

Did you ever wonder how literally hundreds of witnesses could see a mass murder but the official report not only ignores these citizens but offers solutions that are physically impossible? Conclusions such as this are possible whenever the conspiracy label is attached. And what was all the fuss about Jamie Gorelick being on the 9-11commission? Why did we get bored seeing Richard Clark attacking President Bush in the 9-11 hearings? If you’re one of Bill Clinton’s boys or girls that was in his inner circle, the noose is tightening.

They know what happened but you don’t know, not yet.

In 1994, Bill Clinton was shocked at the Republican massacre in the congressional election. His chances of reelection seemed dim. Drastic action was called for if he was going to see a second term.

The first challenge to Bill Clinton was the Federal Building bombing at Oklahoma City in 1995. As documented in Jayana Davis’ book “The Third Terrorist”, McVeigh and Nichol’s were not the only ones involved in the bombing. It seems that there were Iraqi defectors from Gulf War 1 in OKC. One of the Iraqi soldiers got out of the truck with McVeigh a few minutes before the truck bomb exploded. You may recall the story during the Nichols trial in OKC earlier this spring concerning the surveillance tape that agreed with witnesses showing two men getting out of the truck. Later, the FBI said there was no surveillance tape. This same Iraqi later moved to Boston and was working at Boston Logan Int’l airport the morning of 9-11-01. Is it a small world or was something going on here? The FBI has never investigated.

In Jayna’s book, she ties the Iraqis together with McVeigh and Nichols. Read the book and listen to her interview with Jim Quinn from Pittsburgh in the WARROOM which was aired April 20, 2004. It is in the archives. It will open your eyes.

Why did the investigation focus on two Americans when numerous witnesses testified that others were involved? And of course the initial reports detailed that two middle Eastern men were wanted? What happened?

Bill Clinton knew that if it was shown that foreign terrorists were killing Americans in Oklahoma City his chance of being reelected would vanish. Jamie Gorelick was tasked with removing middle eastern terrorists from the equation and concluding that two right wing extremists motivated by Waco were the cause, the only cause. There was no Middle Eastern conspiracy by presidential order.

Flash ahead to July, 1996 and an airplane leaving from JFK in New York City crashes off Long Island. Hundreds of witnesses see a missile shoot the plane from the sky but the investigation concludes that it was a center fuel tank explosion. Jack Cashill in his book on flight TWA 800 faces the same problem that Jayna Davis did with the Oklahoma City bombing a year earlier. WHY? Witnesses saw one thing but the investigation reported something else.

The crash of TWA 800 occurred before the Democratic convention. As in Oklahoma City, Jamie Gorelick was tasked with removing terrorism from the equation. Richard Clark supplied the center fuel tank scenario, the CIA supplied the computer simulation and Bill Clinton was home free.

Flash ahead to 9-11-01: Bill Clinton has said several times that he first thought of Bin Laden when he heard about the WTC attacks. Actually it had to be Al Qaeda, not Iraq, or his “brilliant” plan might be discovered. But Clinton was not out of the woods yet.

The 9-11 commission is tasked with finding the truth. Jamie Gorelick is on the commission to ensure they don’t. Sandy Berger while preparing to testify is caught removing classified documents by hiding them under his clothes. Anyone who has ever held a TOP SECRET clearance can relate to the sinking feeling he must have in his stomach today as the news is released.

The lies that turned to conspiracy theories led to thousands dying in NYC and Washington, DC on 9-11. Instead of Bill Clinton taking care of business in Iraq in 1995 when Iraqi defectors were caught killing Americans he covered up their involvement to get reelected. His co-conspirators are still trying to cover up the biggest lie in American history.

One of the questions now facing Sandy Berger is will he get a deal? I’m sure he watches Law and Order occasionally so he’s probably familiar with the process. Sell out Bill Clinton and the democratic party and you may get out of jail one day. Otherwise, it just doesn’t look very good.

Bill Clinton, the noose is tightening around your neck. Your legacy is the least of your problems. Everyone understands you’re a natural born liar but most didn’t even suspect the havoc you caused with you lies in 1995.

Now everyone will know it wasn’t an intelligence failure. It was Slick Willy all along.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: berger; clinton; coverup; okcbombing; oklahomacity; pantthrax; sandyberger; soxgate; thethirdterrorist; treason; x42
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1 posted on 07/20/2004 7:44:07 PM PDT by BILL_C
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To: BILL_C
Lanny Davis was on natioal news earlier today saying that the leak right before the Democratic Convention just had to be politically motivated.

Lanny could very well be right.

This story may have been leaked by a RAT with the pre-meditated "it's a conspiracy" response ready for deployment.

2 posted on 07/20/2004 7:49:14 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: BILL_C
I'm breathless! This will make a great documentary!! Well done!!

But, we differ in that you think much more higly of Slick than do I. You suggest that his motivation for lying, treason and general dishonesty was reelection. I believe he was well paid for almost everything he did. The Saudis and Iraqis paid Willie to stay away from Osama. The money may have come from Marc Risch (who Willie pardoned) but it was Iraqi/Saudi money.

But, your script WILL make a great documentary! A sure winner at Cannes!!

3 posted on 07/20/2004 7:51:28 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: BILL_C
Never seen you around here before.

Interesting read. Where ya from?

4 posted on 07/20/2004 7:55:41 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: BILL_C

Just occurred to me--let's refer to the archives scandal as the "Folies Bergere"!

http://www.foliesbergere.com/

How apropos--it's French!


5 posted on 07/20/2004 7:59:15 PM PDT by Buck W.
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To: smoothsailing

I am a frequent visitor on Free Republic.

The key here is that Bill Clinton understands that once an issue degrades to conspiracy theory, it's an open invitation to lie.

Look at a graph of conspiracy theory issues vs. time in the 20th century, you'll see a big peak during Clinton's years.

Bill loves conspiracy, It's a license to lie. And that's what he does best!


6 posted on 07/20/2004 8:02:14 PM PDT by BILL_C
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To: Texas Eagle

Bill Clinton said today that he'd known about the federal probe on Berger for months. If he knew, many others on the Left knew as well..Hillary, Bruce Lindsey, Kerry, etc. I don't believe for one minute that the Kerry Campaign didn't know about this investigation.


7 posted on 07/20/2004 8:02:27 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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To: BILL_C; ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; ...
OKC-911 CONNECTION ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be taken off this list. Thanks.

Okay, here it is. I've been waiting for the pieces to fall into place, and Mr. Bill_C has come up with a plausible theory, and provided a cogent thread detailing what most of us have probably been thinking. Let's put it to the test.

8 posted on 07/20/2004 8:03:25 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Palm Beach voters: It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: ovrtaxt
BUMP - Thanks for the ping!

Hitting the hay early tonight.

9 posted on 07/20/2004 8:04:40 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Texas Eagle
By golly, TE, I think you've nailed it!

We all recall how Clinton Admin. put bad news out, for instance, on a Friday, as a preemptive strike. My hope and guess is that Ashcroft close to charging McBergler, but someone close to BC was the leaker. Thus every desparate democrat can go to convention and claim what you said, and avoid the fact their candidate is a full fledged incompetent boob.

10 posted on 07/20/2004 8:07:13 PM PDT by uvular
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To: BILL_C

Yes, the OKC bombing, flight 800, AQ plans that were known but avoided by the Clinturd administration, even AQ/Iraq/WMD ties......all possibilities.

I fervently pray that Ashcroft and the DOJ goes after this like unrelenting hellfire.

Prairie


11 posted on 07/20/2004 8:09:21 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (10 out of 10 terrorists agree, anybody but BUSH!!)
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To: mass55th

Mass55th,you're right--so many people today are ADMITTING they KNEW about this investigation for months--you know-the old "nothing to see here--it's old news--move along" type of response.

Well if so many people knew, any leak as accused by the Demons could have come from anywhere, including the Democrats trying to head off the maximum impact this might have if it was held a bit longer.

In any event--Berger deserves jail--what he did was deliberate and compromised our national security.

Let's see if he does a "Webb Hubbell" for the Clintons.


12 posted on 07/20/2004 8:10:07 PM PDT by exit82 (Righteousness exalts a nation......Prov. 14:34)
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To: Peach; prairiebreeze

take a look at this theory.


13 posted on 07/20/2004 8:11:01 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Impersonating June Cleaver since 1967)
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To: BILL_C
Let's make a movie out of it and call it Celsius 42.
14 posted on 07/20/2004 8:11:05 PM PDT by pghkevin (Have you hugged your kids today? Have you thanked someone in the Military today?)
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To: BILL_C
AS serious as the breach of security committed by Sandy Burlglar is, the cover-up now in progress may evolve into the bigger crime. We know how those cover-ups go.
15 posted on 07/20/2004 8:11:58 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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To: BILL_C

The clinton administration was full of traitors and other criminals, yet none has ever been charged and none ever will be. God only knows how much evidence against these bastards exists, but the Bush administration steadfasly refuses to prosecute.


16 posted on 07/20/2004 8:12:27 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Just because I could.......")
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To: BILL_C

The clinton administration was full of traitors and other criminals, yet none has ever been charged and none ever will be. God only knows how much evidence against these bastards exists, but the Bush administration steadfastly refuses to prosecute.


17 posted on 07/20/2004 8:12:39 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Just because I could.......")
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To: BILL_C
The key here is that Bill Clinton understands that once an issue degrades to conspiracy theory, it's an open invitation to lie.

Look at a graph of conspiracy theory issues vs. time in the 20th century, you'll see a big peak during Clinton's years.

And the fact that the Bush Admin REFUSES to pursue any crimes committed by the Clinton Admin helps to justify the 'conspiracy' label.

Spineless wussies, they are. Laws were violated and Americans died.

18 posted on 07/20/2004 8:13:08 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Palm Beach voters: It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: BILL_C

Where's quidam when you really need him?


19 posted on 07/20/2004 8:13:18 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: BILL_C

bttt


20 posted on 07/20/2004 8:14:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tacis

But, we differ in that you think much more higly of Slick than do I. You suggest that his motivation for lying, treason and general dishonesty was reelection. I believe he was well paid for almost everything he did..




David Shippers who was the House of Representatives Prosecutor in Bill Clinton's impeachment trial has said the same thing about Clinton, that money could get you anything.

But in this case I'm sure Clinton was just trying to present a tranquil country in 1996. Remember the statement about no missles are targeting US cities for the first time in (40?) years.

Iraqis killing people in OKC didn't go with that theme.

David Shippers by the way is very involved with Jayna Davis' investigation with the OKC bombing. There is actually NO DOUBT in my mind that she's right.

What she didn't understand is WHY. I believe she does now.


21 posted on 07/20/2004 8:14:37 PM PDT by BILL_C
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To: mass55th

They must have had some reason to believe that the investigation would be quashed -- or Kerry would have dumped Berger long ago.


22 posted on 07/20/2004 8:16:20 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: exit82
"Let's see if he does a "Webb Hubbell" for the Clintons."

As Limbaugh stated on his program today, "Sandy Burgler better stay away from Fort Marcy Park".

23 posted on 07/20/2004 8:16:44 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: BILL_C
Jamie Gorelick was tasked

When you make an assertion such as this, and you make it twice, you need to provide some supporting evidence other than tin foil, that such events occurred, or the whole thing (theory), however reasonable sounding, can be dismissed.

24 posted on 07/20/2004 8:19:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Nita Nupress; quidam

Hey quidam - get over here!


25 posted on 07/20/2004 8:20:32 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: BILL_C

This is not entirely improbable. But I've given up on the idea of seeing the truth emerge about the OKC or the TWA800 coverups. Too many people in the FBI and the CIA were involved.


26 posted on 07/20/2004 8:21:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Happy2BMe

Missed responding to you on the Jenna thread Happy. There always has to be a party pooper!!


27 posted on 07/20/2004 8:21:45 PM PDT by potlatch (HECK IS WHERE PEOPLE GO WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOSH)
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To: expatpat
"They must have had some reason to believe that the investigation would be quashed -- or Kerry would have dumped Berger long ago."

Perhaps. But it's possible that they didn't think this was going to have legs...and then it did.

28 posted on 07/20/2004 8:23:01 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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To: BILL_C
All I can do is try to visualize this scenerio ...

Berger is in a room, poring over papers and documents and (a) camera(s) is/are running.

Certainly Berger isn't so very stupid to think this could be pulled off ... unless there are clintonista operatives involved with aforementioned camera(s).

Or so he thought.

The 'operative' approaches Justice, Justice 'allows' continued theft, brings it to President Bush and the plot thickens.

Berger is approached, 'confesses' and is led to believe that he isn't such very hot water after all.

President Bush has known all along and has authorized the release of this information.

Bush by a landslide in 2004 and he now has his own brand of the 900 FBI files.

Clintons fade into noisy oblivian ... the bwitch becomes a powerless shrew and x42 diddles girls all over the globe.

29 posted on 07/20/2004 8:24:32 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Tacis

Must be why Hillary put the kabash on allowing the Fed to poke around in Cayman Island accounts.


30 posted on 07/20/2004 8:24:57 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: ovrtaxt; ntnychik; devolve; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; Smartass; PhilDragoo

Thanks for the ping ovrtaxt!


31 posted on 07/20/2004 8:26:16 PM PDT by potlatch (HECK IS WHERE PEOPLE GO WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOSH)
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To: Revolting cat!

Jamie Gorelick was tasked
When you make an assertion such as this, and you make it twice, you need to provide some supporting evidence other than tin foil, that such events occurred




http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32009

Did Clinton appointee corrupt Flight 800 probe?

Although Newsday puts Janet Reno in the meeting with Kallstrom that day, Milton does not. The only Justice Department official she mentions by name is Jamie Gorelick.

The OKC tie I'll have to find, somewhere in my notes.....


32 posted on 07/20/2004 8:30:46 PM PDT by BILL_C
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To: ovrtaxt
I've been following the OKC thing for a while on FR. Jayna Davis seems to have a good story. I definitely remember the first media reports of Middle Eastern men on the scene. I think Jayna has done some outstanding reporting. The TWA flight 800 is another piece of he puzzle. Too many witnesses. My husband keeps saying, no, too many people, not all those people can keep up a lie. We'd know by now.

Just saw a report on FR the other day, that an independent pilot is finally gettin his day in court, re TWA 800.

I would be devastated to think that my government lied to me about these things. I can understand if it was a Navy accident - that story being that the US Navy on maneuvers shot down the plan by accident. I could even accept that a group of terrorists shot it down. That doesn't mean I would have wanted Bill Clinton's head on a platter. We can't stop every nut who gets their hands on a SAM, or RPG. So be it. But....

But we are entitled to the truth. We can handle the truth.
33 posted on 07/20/2004 8:35:16 PM PDT by baseballmom (Michael Moore - An un-American Hatriot)
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To: BILL_C
I want to know what was in those documents that Berger lifted. I want to know what was recovered if anything yet. I would hope there were people in charge that did back up copies of those documents so it can be determined what was taken.

Once it is known what was taken and what was in those documents, then and only then can I say that the noose is tightening on x42id, scumbag president forever.

If this truly blows the lid off of Clinton's perfidity, then the supreme bitch herself is little more than toast.

34 posted on 07/20/2004 8:35:30 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character...Just hate)
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To: truthaboveall; swampfx

Are y'all lurking out there tonight? We would love to have your input on this trouserbergler thing...


35 posted on 07/20/2004 8:38:10 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Palm Beach voters: It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: BILL_C; prairiebreeze

Now, that's what I call connecting the dots. Great job BILL_C! Thanks for the heads up to this thread prairie! Excellent thread!


36 posted on 07/20/2004 8:38:27 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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To: BILL_C

EVERYONE, call your local talk shows tomorrow and bring this up...We need to get a buzz going nationwide, letting people know about this coverup by Berger.


37 posted on 07/20/2004 8:39:05 PM PDT by Capitalism2003 (America is too great for small dreams. - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)
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To: exit82
...so many people today are ADMITTING they KNEW about this investigation for months--you know-the old "nothing to see here--it's old news--move along" type of response.

Precisely how the Democrats are spinning it on the talkshows tonight. They're even saying "Why are we discussing Clinton?!? He's not in the White House, Bush is in the White House."

38 posted on 07/20/2004 8:40:53 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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To: baseballmom
Jayna was live on FR a few weeks ago. There's lots of info, and some long reading here, but it's one of the best threads ever, IMO.
39 posted on 07/20/2004 8:41:13 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Palm Beach voters: It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: BILL_C

The "8 Great Years Of Bill Clinton" is just the whitewash on the fence to fool the unsuspecting that there's nothing to see but a white picket fence, if you ask me.


40 posted on 07/20/2004 8:42:46 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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To: BILL_C
Someday the whole truth about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy conspiracy will come out.

Was Clinton spending terrorist money going after everyday American conservatives?

41 posted on 07/20/2004 8:42:55 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: BILL_C
I agree with you.

I was just wondering about what state you are from.

I'm from Pennsylvania. I know it's no big deal, I was just curious.

42 posted on 07/20/2004 8:43:14 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: BILL_C

OK, thanks a lot.


43 posted on 07/20/2004 8:44:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: el_texicano

I'm willing to bet a steak dinner that Berger was in there lifting out Clinton's obvious foreign policy failures from the document stack. Leaving a paper trail that connected Bush 41 and Bush 43, as if nothing went wrong during the Clinton administration. It would fit the template of the left-winged kookburger conspiracy theory that Clinton was the "Greatest President of the late 20th Century" and the Bush's were/are complete failures.


44 posted on 07/20/2004 8:48:09 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (While Bush plays "rope a dope", Kerry/Edwards play "grope a dope".)
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To: Texas Eagle
This story may have been leaked by a RAT with the pre-meditated "it's a conspiracy" response ready for deployment.

I think that's exactly what happened - a preemptive strike. Guess it backfired. Whoops....

45 posted on 07/20/2004 8:49:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the PING...
BKMRK for later...
Looking for a previous thread at the moment...
Getting Late...Not Thinking Clearly!


46 posted on 07/20/2004 8:50:25 PM PDT by FlashBack (Faith will not make our path easy, but it will give us strength for the Journey.)
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To: expatpat

That's a very good point. What was their reason, I wonder? Any ideas, expatpat or any Freeper?


47 posted on 07/20/2004 8:51:35 PM PDT by livius
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To: ovrtaxt

Oh yeah this is the real deal....but I have believed that since 1993 and the first WTC...once I read Bodansky and Mylroie I knew that we were in a wrold of hurt


48 posted on 07/20/2004 8:52:33 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: BILL_C
The only Justice Department official she mentions by name is Jamie Gorelick.

Remarkable.

49 posted on 07/20/2004 8:54:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: BILL_C


One term Sin-ator "The Shrew"

50 posted on 07/20/2004 8:54:02 PM PDT by John Lenin
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