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"ROBERT REICH'S RHETORICAL RUBBISH" (he foresees war between "science" and people of "Scripture")
Virtuosity ^ | July 20, 04 | David Virtue

Posted on 07/20/2004 8:11:40 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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1 posted on 07/20/2004 8:11:48 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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Reich and his ilk obviously don't believe in the primacy of the individual seeing as how they support every group/ethnic/racial/gender preference that comes along.


2 posted on 07/20/2004 8:21:32 PM PDT by Aetius
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Robert Reich is a pathetic atheist socialist and his wife a ding bat feminist who left Harvard under a cloud (discrimination yada yada yada) and won a $300,000 lawsuit against them. Then migrated to North Eastern University and set up some kind of feminist think tank with the proceeds.


3 posted on 07/20/2004 8:27:33 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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"The true battle will be between ... those who believe in science, reason, and logic and those who believe that truth is revealed through Scripture and religious dogma.

Well, as a christian and an engineer I guess I best commence to kicking my own @ss.

What a fool Reich is--as if science and belief in God are mutually exclusive.

4 posted on 07/20/2004 8:27:35 PM PDT by randog
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To: churchillbuff

The writers of the Declaration of Independence saw a "higher authority" as the source of our rights. "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness..." I believe John Locke also cited God as the source of our rights.


5 posted on 07/20/2004 8:28:13 PM PDT by Njord
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To: Aetius
The conflict between science and religion has been going on since the Enlightenment. It nothing new and I doubt it will greatly change the 21 century.

You got to love this:

Terrorism is a tactic, not a belief

I think that all terrorist activity is first founded first in belief and later becomes action. You can't separate the two.

6 posted on 07/20/2004 8:33:36 PM PDT by foolscap
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You'd think that Reich, who's Jewish if I'm not mistaken, would know better than to incite religious hatred. But I guess some people are too stupid to know that they're reliving their own history, only from the other side. Julius Streicher would be so proud.


7 posted on 07/20/2004 8:34:38 PM PDT by Campion
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There is indeed a serious culture war going on in America, a culture war that was started by those dissenting from absolute moral norms that have been the staple of Western Civilization for more than 2,000 years.

Well said, Mr.Virtue.

Outstanding article.

8 posted on 07/20/2004 8:37:54 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: churchillbuff

Reich is a pompus ass. Always was, always will be.


9 posted on 07/20/2004 8:38:35 PM PDT by Imagine
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What a silly little man.

He believes in "the primacy of the individual"??? Riiight... don't make me laugh. Individualism is completely at odds with everything this man has espoused for as long as I've seen him speak. Liberalism is all about groups and divisiveness between those groups.

I'm a Christian, and I also like Science. Science doesn't infringe on religion at all. Science "discovers" and names things. That's what the Lord wants us to do. Find things and name them. So... that what we do.

Science is good at explaining how things happen, but it doesn't even pretend to explain *why* things happen. Scripture is pretty good at explaining why things happen, but it doesn't bother with the details of *how* things happen.

I'm OK with that.


10 posted on 07/20/2004 8:39:16 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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Reich's blathering would fit quite well in one of Nietsche's anti-God anti Christian diatribes.

Nietsche helped pave the way for Naziism and Communism. Reich's name certainly fits.


11 posted on 07/20/2004 8:41:07 PM PDT by fizziwig
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One more thing.

"Democrats should be clear that the issues of abortion and stem-cell research are about religious liberty," Reich says.

I have to agree with him here. Forcing people to subsidize either abortion or fetal tissue research with their tax money is a heinous offense against religious liberty, amounting to state establishment of a religion -- the worship of Moloch.

But that isn't what Bobby means, is it. What kind of twisted insanity infects the Democrat party, that they can persuade themselves that forcing an American, under penalty of law, to subsidize practices his religion considers an abomination is striking a blow for religious liberty?

Would Bobby be okay with a Christian who wanted to force-feed pork to believing Jews or Moslems and call it "striking a blow for religous liberty"? Of course not. But he has no problem with forcing Christians to pay for the murder of innocent kids under penalty of law. He thinks that's a good thing. Sick! Sick! Sick!

12 posted on 07/20/2004 8:42:43 PM PDT by Campion
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To: dennisw
Robert Reich is a pathetic atheist socialist and his wife a ding bat feminist who left Harvard under a cloud (discrimination yada yada yada) and won a $300,000 lawsuit against them. Then migrated to North Eastern University and set up some kind of feminist think tank with the proceeds.

Dang. Don't know what to do here. What's an evangelical scientist to do?

I guess I should just shoot myself in this war between religion and science. But which one of me gets the first shot? Any suggestions? Or, maybe I should have a duel with mysef. But how can I take ten paces away from myself before I turn to shoot? Would a mirror work?

Guess I'll just have to wait for guidance from my betters in NY and SF like Mr. Reich.

13 posted on 07/20/2004 8:54:22 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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The dems chant "Anyone but Bush!"

Similarly, Turd Reich chants "Anyone but God!"

14 posted on 07/20/2004 9:00:57 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Hate is not a family value, it's a liberal democrat value.)
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Yup....not only do I agree but for the same reasons


15 posted on 07/20/2004 9:08:38 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: churchillbuff
"The great conflict of the 21st century will not be between the West and terrorism. Terrorism is a tactic, not a belief," he writes.

How much terrorism isn't tied to Islamofascism?

There are the Earth First/antiglobalists who burn down things and blow them up (or in the case of the Unabomber, mail bombs). These FAR outnumber the Christians engaging in bombing/burning abortion clinics (how many years since the last of those happened?)

There is the radicalism in Ireland.

What else?

When we say "war on terrorism" it essentially is Islam related fanaticism. Korea was listed among the rogue nations but I wouldn't even list them among nations engaging in terrorism (they ARE seeking weapons of mass destruction).

16 posted on 07/20/2004 9:13:42 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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In the months leading up to Election Day, when Republicans are screaming about God and accusing the Democrats of siding with sexual deviants and baby killers, Democrats should remind Americans that however important religion is to our spiritual lives, there is no room for liberty in a theocracy.

If sexual deviance is okay, then let's do away with age of consent laws, prostitution laws, and what bestiality laws there are (it is not a crime in a number of states and I don't hear the left PUSHING for making it a crime). Anything less and we agree that there can be some moral barriers in society (whether or not they are based in religion).

Abortion is child murder. Doesn't matter if you believe in the existance of God or souls. This does not change the fact that is a baby.

Mentioning that there are sexual deviants and baby killers in society PUSHING their agendas does not make the US in danger of becoming a theocracy. Activist judges FORCING Americans to "accept" these things (unconstitutionally mandating the laws of the land) WILL eventually bring about a backlash that moves the culture war into a civil war.

17 posted on 07/20/2004 9:22:56 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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Revelation 19:15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.

He is right about a coming war. Too bad for him, his side doesn't get it.

18 posted on 07/20/2004 9:28:52 PM PDT by hope ( Let no man deceive you!)
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Randog, I am a Christian and an engineer too.

Maybe we should just kick each other's @ss.


19 posted on 07/20/2004 9:31:53 PM PDT by exit82 (Righteousness exalts a nation......Prov. 14:34)
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OK, we'll take turns being the christian and engineer!

;^)

20 posted on 07/20/2004 9:33:56 PM PDT by randog
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