Skip to comments.UPDATED: Iraqi paper reports discovery of nuclear warheads
Posted on 07/20/2004 11:14:11 PM PDT by propertiusEdited on 07/21/2004 11:16:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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The WMD will be found whether buried in the desert or in Syria/Lebanon. I think the Bush Administration, and in particular the Blair Admin, is making a big mistake moving away from this. The above about the location of the WMD is supported by comments made by Israel's top IDF general a few months ago.
Doesn't count. They're untested and unproven. Besides your not suggesting these are WMD in the same sense as the WMD George Bush has in his socks, are you? </end 'rat spinning>
I want to thank you for sharing the translation. I have already sent out links to this news thread. If the story is correct (as they present it), then this is really big.
Is this the same paper online?>
Eactly. Even if he didn't have WMD, which I doubt, Saddam was a dictator with the intention of pursuing WMD.
well, maybe not:
"The return of U.N. inspectors to Iraq is an urgent necessity; not to search for weapons of mass destruction, but to write the final report about the nonexistence of (such) weapons ... in Iraq, which will enable the lifting of sanctions," ElBaradei said in Cairo.
And here we get to the crux of the issue; the Iraqi people need sanctions lifted a lot more than Bush needs a confirmation of the existence of WMDs. If this were Clinton, the needs of Iraqis would be secondary if they were of import at all when it comes to getting reelected.
And the Democrats all along knew that the sanctions had to be lifted in order to insure Iraq got back on her feet and they knew what political as well as material and bloody sacrifice it would take to get this done. They knew very well- because they have been briefed all along- that the Bush admin couldn't protect itself from their political attacks of "no wmd" by presenting our real finds without screwing Iraqis's chances of getting the UN to officially lift sanctions. The rats took advantage of this necessity, knowing that success in Iraq depended on it, and knowing that Bush could not and would not waver and respond no matter the damage they did. The huge quantities of precursors stored in military bases had to be called mere pesticides, the shells had to be called old and dated pre-gulf war; the missile findings had to be ignored, the findings of the Poles had to be discounted, the Jordanian plot buried, the European ricin plot obscured, the anthrax/al Ani story had to go nowhere, the Niger story reduced to a mere attempt to acquire, the Libya/Qadeer Khan stories had to be scrubbed of their references to the Iraq and left at best with a reference to a "fifth nation" ; the labs called mere hydrogen balloon factories though no one would put their name to that claim; Hatfill had to be followed around in circles, and Kay's talk of Iraq's innovative anthrax production pretty much buried. It's all been out there in whizzing in our faces though the press keeps telling us it's just raining.
But it not the huge stockpiles we were led to believe existed by the lying neo-con.
"The WMD's are half-finished, because he realized that the money would be better spent feeding the women and children. He made a simple mistake, and now the Republicans are politicizing it to their advantage. How many men of good character are they going to destroy?"
Must have more translation.......
I'm sure most people agree with every word you say, I certainly do, in spades. I'm an Aussie who wants GWB to win the election and win it bigtime, then he can do everything you say needs to be done.
I hope, no I pray, this breaking story has legs like a centipede!
I'm waiting with heart in mouth for the translation here, on the other side of the Pacific.
Additionally Saddam reportedly financed terrorism (giving money to the families of dead Palestinian homicide bombers).
Socks have been on my mind today.
I dunno about that. They probably found something. I think they would tell the Iraqi press. If they are nuclear warheads, where'd he get 'em (Russia). They are probably not actual armed warheads.
However, based on Warner's statements a lot of stuff is being found, odds and ends. I've got a general good feeling, and I've been one saying Bush has got to win the election even while there is still plausible deniability of any WMDs. That may yet be the case in November.
Yup. $25,000 a piece. Now that Saddam is gone, Iran has taken over giving about $50,000 a terrorist suicide.
And if sanctions won't be lifted on Iraq until it is certified "clean" by the IAEA- then anyone coming up with a story like this true or not may have ulterior motives. They may want to derail the process and keep sanctions imposed- just a passive way of saboutaging the new country's economic development so the new gov can be undermined.
Here is story in full:
Headline: Khidhur (or Khidhir) al-Douri, back from the dead, reveals three nuclear missiles
Sources in the Interior ministry and the National Security Advisor's Office refused to comment on news reports that three missiles with nuclear warheads had been seized during the arrest of Khidhur al-Douri, the former Ba'ath party member.
Iraqi political sources, who requested anonimity, inisisted that Iraqi security authorities arrested al-Douri and seized the missiles.
The same sources told al-Sabah that al-Douri, who held meany Ba'ath party positions during the former regime, was falsely pronounced dead on its demise. Forged death certificates had been circulated.
He was arrested in an area between Oja and al-Dour, in Salahidine province.
The same sources said three missiles were found with nuclear heads attached in a tunnel six metres underground.
A cement layer six metres thick had been built over the tunnel to hide it from scientific ray detection that could detect the radiation emitted by the nuclear heads.
The tunnel leading to the three missiles is connected to a small hole that opens out on the main road between Ouja and Dour.
The sources said al-Douri was arrested after sending an email, specifying the location and a meeting place in Tikrit.
Authorities analysed the message. Iraqi forces then moved into the area, laying a trap that snared al-Douri and his son.
Al-Douri then revealed the location of the missiles. Various light weapons and money was also seized during the operation.
I give up. I have to go to sleep now. :)
We should already be in Iran and moving on. The brainless Democrats, the media elites, and the elistists have literally thrown all of us to the wolves. Every innocent that dies from terrorists hands as far as I am concern are on the head of every liberal, progressive, democrat. It is becoming harder and harder to distinguish the difference between a terrorist, democrat politicians and RINOs. Their goals are the same, they share no conscience nor remorse over the death of any innocents. They each want the power and it does not matter who they have to sacrifice to get it.....
If this is true?? .. Holy Moly
please update the story with the post I am replying to.
I do too. You win. Good night!
What a brilliant mind you have!
Gimmie a break, just governemnt manipulation. Face it IRaq had no warheads. I'm not against the war, I'd have just prefered they went in under the real circumstances. Iraq should have freedom, as a model to the rest of the middle east. This is grasping at straws.
Can't we just go in and give it to them? The Bush admin should have recognized that.
Oy vey...again. Crikey!! If confirmed, the 'Rats are going to be deeply saddened.
You should apply for the new jersey poet laureate position.
I hope its true. If it is Bush has been vindicated and al Kerry is history (down the tube socks).
Did you see this? I thought of you both as soon as I read it. Hope its' true.
Do you have a direct link to the story? This is all I get from a translation of the Al Sabah main page...
It is one of three newspapers in Iraq that are considered fairly serious
That story of three nukes found in Iraq has to be total BS...but if they're there, Bush planted 'em to screw up the coverage of the convention...
Are they really saying that?
Well, not really.
If he didn't know they had them, but said they had them, then he still lied. Whether they ACTUALLY had them doesn't matter. (At least, that's my nomination for the spin)
Clinton legacy dead!
What legacy? His legacy will consist of being the horniest president in history....while being married to a lebo.
If the story is true,this will be John Kerry's response:
"This is exactly why I voted for the Iraq war in the first place. Now if I had been president, we wouldn't have taken a year to find these weapons."
The surreal nature of the political battles since last year has raised suspicions that they have been in part just for show.
A standard procedure when defecting is to deliver a "bride price" as part of a negotiated settlement, to ensure that one is not going to go to the gallows or to a small cell for life. Typically defecting spies bring over the most valuable secrets they could steal before flipping sides as their bride price.
Three hidden nukes is a hell of a convincing bride price, if true.
Clinton's legacy was enabling Bin Laden and giving China assistance with their missile rocket and guidance technology so they could hit any city in the USA.
That is his legacy to us.
When I go to the english page, it doesnt mention this, where are you getting this info from ????????????????????????????????????
Wasn't al-Douri Saddam's #2 or #3 man? The redhead?
*L* .. Breath Deep
If it's true .. Freepers will find out sooner or later :0)