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Response to Michael Moore's, "Open Letter to Bill Timmins, President Aladdin Casino and Hotel"
Me | 7-21-04 | Jayhawk5150

Posted on 07/21/2004 8:47:19 PM PDT by Jayhawk5150

Response to Michael Moore's, "Open Letter to Bill Timmins, President Aladdin Casino and Hotel"

As you most likely know, Michael Moore posted the following letter: After the letter, you will find the response...

Open Letter to Bill Timmins, President Aladdin Casino and Hotel http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=93

Bill Timmins President Aladdin Casino and Hotel Las Vegas, NV

July 20, 2004

Dear Mr. Timmins:

I understand from the news reports I've read that, after Linda Ronstadt, one of America's greatest singers, dedicated a song to me from your stage on Saturday night, you instructed your security guards to remove her from the Aladdin, which they did.

What country do you live in? Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called "The First Amendment." This constitutional right gives everyone here the right to say whatever they want to say. All Americans hold this right as sacred. Many of our young people put on a uniform and risk their lives to defend it. My film is all about asking the questions that should have been asked before those brave soldiers were sent into harms way.

For you to throw Linda Ronstadt off the premises because she dared to say a few words in support of me and my film, is simply stupid and Un-American. Frankly, I have never heard of such a thing happening. I read that you wouldn't even let her go back up to her room at your hotel! Are you crazy? For crying out loud, it was a song DEDICATION! To "Desperado!" Every American loves that song! Sure, some people didn't like the dedication, and that's their right. But neither they nor you have the right to remove her from your building when all she did was exercise her AMERICAN right to speak her mind.

Of all the things that go on in Las Vegas, this is what creates the need for serious action? What about the other half of the crowd at the Aladdin who, according to the Las Vegas Sun, cheered her when she made her remarks? Did you throw them out, too?

I think you owe Ms. Ronstadt an apology. And I have an idea how you can make it up to her -- and to the millions of Americans you have offended. Invite her back and I'll join her in singing "America the Beautiful" on your stage. Then I will show "Fahrenheit 9/11" free of charge to all your guests and anyone else in Las Vegas who wants to see it.

Mr. Timmins, as the song "Desperado" says -- "Come to your senses!" How can you refuse this offer? I await your reply.

Yours, Michael Moore Director, "Fahrenheit 9/11"

=============================================== Response ===============================================

July 21, 2004

Attention: Michael Moore,

In response to your letter dated July 20, 2004: You are correct that I had security remove Linda Ronstadt from Aladdin Casino and Hotel where the fun never ends and everybody wins. How very interesting to learn you are such a fan of Ms. Ronstadt.

You questioned where I live and surprisingly knew Las Vegas is in the United States. You should visit it sometime. There are thousands of wonderful 'All You Can Eat' buffets.

There are also a lot of casinos who's owners don't **** around. I am aware of the First Amendment and you have the right to talk about your hatred of America but once you are on my property and you are upsetting my guests, you will quickly learn about my rights.

I can't remember if it was Jesus or George W. Bush that said, "Freedom is a two-way street." Ms. Ronstadt learned this long before I had her thrown out of my casino. You question my actions? If you come onto my property and upset my guests, you will receive the same, if not worse, treatment than Ms. Ronstadt received. I am sure your mere presence would upset my guests.

You claim you film, "...is all about asking the questions that should have been asked before those brave soldiers were sent into harms way." I think you film does nothing but aid the enemy and hurt our troops. You have betrayed our troops, our leader and America. I have no respect for you or your vision of what America should be.

I paid Ms. Ronstadt to entertain my guests, not divide them. The half that did not leave probably thought the verse you mentioned, "Why don't you come to your senses" was addressed to you. Maybe she should have dedicated her song, 'You're No Good' to you. I would have asked her back, had she done that.

Regarding your request for me to apologize to her, have you and her on my stage singing anything about this Country and then playing your piece of **** film is ludicrous!

One of my workers is currently throwing away every complaint letter from brainless followers of you, claiming they will never visit my Casino. I could not be more pleased to know my casino and hotel will always be void of the kind of people who support you. Meanwhile, my hotel has been quickly booked solid for the rest of the year with true Americans who love this Country and support our efforts overseas.

They will see a framed copy of your letter and my response in the lobby to ensure they begin their experience with a laugh.

Sincerely,

Bill Timmins President Aladdin Casino and Hotel Las Vegas, NV


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: aladdin; aladdincasino; boycottaladdin; boycotthollywood; defundtheleft; lasvegas; lindaronstadt; lumpyriefenstahl; michaelmoore; michaelmoore411; mikhailmoore; notgenuine; politicalhumor; proterrorist; satire
Linda Rongstance got what she deserved!
1 posted on 07/21/2004 8:47:20 PM PDT by Jayhawk5150
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To: Jayhawk5150

This is a joke, right?


2 posted on 07/21/2004 8:51:54 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: Jayhawk5150
Oh if only it were true, if only it were true. Laura Ingram I'm sure would read it aloud on the radio show.
3 posted on 07/21/2004 8:52:45 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Jayhawk5150
You questioned where I live and surprisingly knew Las Vegas is in the United States. You should visit it sometime. There are thousands of wonderful 'All You Can Eat' buffets.


4 posted on 07/21/2004 8:54:10 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Jayhawk5150

Ah, Mikey baby, I really don't think you knew who you were ----ing with. The ACLU don't run the casino biz, never have, never will. And another little hint, it aint the boy scouts either.


5 posted on 07/21/2004 8:54:46 PM PDT by jpf
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To: Paleo Conservative

And the Alladin has the best buffet I've ever eaten at...and I live in Nevada!


6 posted on 07/21/2004 8:59:44 PM PDT by randog
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To: Straight Vermonter

Yes, it is a joke but I doubt Timmins feels any different than what was posted.


7 posted on 07/21/2004 9:00:51 PM PDT by Jayhawk5150
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To: Jayhawk5150
If this was actually written by Timmins (i.e.  it's not an internet forgery), then all I can say is, this guy kicks every ass, every where, all the time.
8 posted on 07/21/2004 9:02:53 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: SandRat

We just got Laura in the Dallas area. ( www.ksky.com ) but she is up against Glenn Beck and I am addicted to his show. ( www.klif.com )


9 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:00 PM PDT by Jayhawk5150
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To: SandRat

Where did you find the response at?


10 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:52 PM PDT by Bush4304 (Liberal Excuses Galore)
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To: Jayhawk5150
Oh....it's a joke.....Damn you kids!
11 posted on 07/21/2004 9:03:59 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Jayhawk5150

We got real LUCKY here in SE AZ. They dumped a RDDB talk dork for Laura to lead in for Rush. Then a week or so later they dumped some PsycoBabble Liberal Doc (everything and anything is OK) and gave us Laura Schlessinger the Dr. Savage.


12 posted on 07/21/2004 9:07:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Jayhawk5150

If this is real, this guy is a national hero! I've never been to Las Vegas but I think I'll take a trip up there just to stay in this man's hotel.


13 posted on 07/21/2004 9:08:43 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Bush4304

ask JayHawk5150 it's his posting. Sure wish it were true though.


14 posted on 07/21/2004 9:09:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Jayhawk5150
Crazy Al Gore tried to claim that the 1st Amendment guarantees entertainers unfettered access to people's wallets.
15 posted on 07/21/2004 9:09:56 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: randog
And the Alladin has the best buffet I've ever eaten at...and I live in Nevada!

It's my personal favorite. It's a tragedy that Planet Hollywood is taking over.

16 posted on 07/21/2004 9:11:50 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Psycho_Bunny

LOL! Sorry everyone. I should have written, "Suggested reply to Moore's letter." I Didn't mean to create a fib.

I registered here a long time ago but I have not been back in a while. I have been battling the liberals over here: http://boards.biography.com/forum.jsp?forum=494

I need to re-learn how this board works. It's so big!
It is very refreshing to be around like-minded people.


17 posted on 07/21/2004 9:13:15 PM PDT by Jayhawk5150
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To: Jayhawk5150
My Dear Mr. Moore:

I cannot tell you how disppointed I was to find that MY viewpoint was NOT included in YOUR movie. What country do you live in? Last I checked, Hollywood was still part of the United States, and we have something called THE FIRST AMENDMENT. Do I not have an equal right with you to have MY viewpoint screened? What kind of brown-shirted jack-booted stunt are you trying to pull?

But now the deed has been done, there is no way to remake the movie. There really is no way to make amends. Perhaps I would be willing to settle for 10% of the take if accompanied by a simple apology.

With all (and I do mean ALL) due respect,

Your baseball-capped Michigan truck-driving nemesis,

Skinny Phil

18 posted on 07/21/2004 9:13:36 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: Jayhawk5150
But neither they nor you have the right to remove her from your building when all she did was exercise her AMERICAN right to speak her mind.

Private property rights. I don't have to permit Michael Moore to come into my home and if a guest here starts spouting his antiAmerican BS, I am at liberty to throw that person out too.

The audience paid to see her sing, not to hear her preach politics. She knows that this has been the response in the past. Only this time it got press. In the future, Republicans and Christians will be aware of her bigoted sentiments.

The casino faced a riot on their hands. There have been riots at concerts over less inflammatory things. Shut it down. The theater has a serious liability on their hands when things turn ugly.

19 posted on 07/21/2004 9:13:55 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jayhawk5150

Not fair of you to play with our hopes like this... is it a joke or not?

It true this guy is AWESOME...


20 posted on 07/21/2004 9:16:58 PM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: Jayhawk5150
I think you owe Ms. Ronstadt an apology. And I have an idea how you can make it up to her -- and to the millions of Americans you have offended. Invite her back and I'll join her in singing "America the Beautiful" on your stage. Then I will show "Fahrenheit 9/11" free of charge to all your guests and anyone else in Las Vegas who wants to see it.

The Aladdin Casino is probably as close to the Middle East as Fat Axis Mike has gotten (even though he made an authoritative crockumentary on the region).

Here's my Vegas proposal for Lumpy Riefenstahl. He has shown his support for the terrorists in Iraq by cheering for an American defeat (and denying that there are terrorists; these are the guys kidnapping and murdering people, Michael). He has also accepted promotion from Hezbollah for his film.

He can show his allegiance to the cause by closing out his Vegas show by blowing himself up, screaming, "Allah Akbar! Death to the capitalists!"

21 posted on 07/21/2004 9:18:38 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: randog

I was partial to the Bellagio but was not as impressed on my visit last year.

How is the Palms?

Top 5 buffets?
Any to avoid?


22 posted on 07/21/2004 9:24:40 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tamsey

Sorry again. Yes, this is a joke. I tried to post this publically that this was a joke but I guess it is only getting to the people who I replied to. I registered here a while back but got side tracked. I need to brush up on how this board works.

PS - I posted this at http://www.upsizethis.org just to tick the Moore-ons off.
more specifically, here:
http://www.upsizethis.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13968


23 posted on 07/21/2004 9:24:57 PM PDT by Jayhawk5150
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To: Jayhawk5150
after Linda Ronstadt, one of America's greatest singers

LOL>..if proof was needed that he's insane, there it is.

24 posted on 07/21/2004 9:26:36 PM PDT by Howlin (~~~~Today is the day AFTER my sixth year FR anniversary~~~~)
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To: McGavin999

It's satire. Additionally the new owners have said that they will look into booking Mr. Moore and Ms. Rondstadt together. Boycott the Aladdin starting when the Planet Hollywood creeps take over (starting maybe as early as September).


25 posted on 07/21/2004 9:27:52 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jayhawk5150

Hey, no problem.... then YOU'RE the awesome one, I adore the way you think LOL

I added "Political Humor" as a topic on the thread for you so no more confusion :-)


26 posted on 07/21/2004 9:31:00 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these documents make me look fat?)
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To: Jayhawk5150
How soon do you think this will make it around the net much as Registered fonda kerry picture did.

So be the talk tomorrow of the liberal talk radio,

27 posted on 07/21/2004 9:36:23 PM PDT by dts32041 (Gen Karpinski A bullet, A Gun, a Room, her only honorable solution (MP Officer Not))
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To: Tamsey

Thanks! Maybe Timmins will eventually read this and get a kick out of it. That is cool that you could add "Political Humor" as a topic.


28 posted on 07/21/2004 9:37:42 PM PDT by Jayhawk5150
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation; randog

The buffet won't change--the only real thing that will change is the name. The new owners are keeping 95% of the existing staff.


29 posted on 07/21/2004 9:39:26 PM PDT by VegasBaby
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To: Jayhawk5150

Does the Aladdin have an email address? Does Timmins? Send this to him and lets see what happens.


30 posted on 07/21/2004 10:06:02 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Jayhawk5150

Right below the main body of the thread, next to the topics and keywords... it has buttons that allow you to "Click to add Keyword" and the same with topic.

Now you have the secret power... just don't let anyone else read this post;-)


31 posted on 07/21/2004 10:08:26 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these documents make me look fat?)
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To: Jayhawk5150

You all might be amused to know that this joke letter was accepted hook, line, and sinker, by Heather Mallick, a columnist for The Globe and Mail, in Toronto:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040724/MALLICK24/Columnists/Columnist?author=Heather+Mallick

"The Aladdin says it won't have her back. When Michael Moore wrote to the theatre to defend freedom of speech and offered to sing America the Beautiful onstage with Ms. Ronstadt, casino president Bill Timmins responded with a misspelled, illiterate letter that twinned Jesus and George W. Bush and insulted his own famously fat customers by saying Las Vegas has thousands of all-you-can-eat buffets that Mr. Moore might like."


32 posted on 07/29/2004 8:34:25 AM PDT by ORBlog
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To: ORBlog; Jayhawk5150
And now its gone even further..
(i actually got this as an email, and had to check snopes)
Jayhawk, you are now part of an 'Official Internet Hoax':

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/timmins.asp

how funny!
36 posted on 08/26/2004 5:47:08 PM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
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To: ORBlog
I posted a comment to The Globe and Mail, basically because I didn't like how the author portrayed the letter, and the fact that the dumb girl didn't do her research to actually confirm with Timmins' office whether the letter was real:



In your online article "Where have all our heroes gone?", Heather Mallick states "casino president Bill Timmins responded with a misspelled, illiterate letter that twinned Jesus and George W. Bush and insulted his own famously fat customers by saying Las Vegas has thousands of all-you-can-eat buffets that Mr. Moore might like".
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040724/MALLICK24/Columnists/Columnist?author=Heather+Mallick
[link to your article]

If you would check out the following link, you would see that the actual author of this "letter" took credit and said, "LOL! Sorry everyone. I should have written, 'Suggested reply to Moore's letter.' I Didn't mean to create a fib". He also said, "Yes, this is a joke. I tried to post this publically that this was a joke but I guess it is only getting to the people who I replied to".
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1176055/posts
[link to the source of the letter]

I would like to recommend an amendment to this article to inform the reader that this "letter" did not actually come from Timmins personally, although as the author states, "I doubt Timmins feels any different than what was posted".

I think it should be attributed properly, and that the proper research should have been done before any columnist declared that an "illiterate" letter of response was given by Bill Timmins. It paints a picture of the responding party as ignorant, and since it wasn't Timmins' response in the first place, I don't think that's fair. My personal opinion is completely aside from this request. I do not want to think that a publication such as yours is in the habit of disseminating false information as fact.

Thank you.



Anyway, I love the letter, I find it very funny and I'm sure that Timmins WOULD feel the same way. I hope they take my recommendation and edit or amend the article.
37 posted on 08/30/2004 1:53:09 PM PDT by Brandoline ("Why battle ignorance with intelligence? It's not really much of a fight.")
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To: Jayhawk5150

Thank you, Mr. Timmins, for supporting the men & women who are risking and losing their lives in order to allow people like Ronstadt & Moore to live the obscenely, conspicuously consumptious life styles they have for which they have contributed NOTHING WORTHWHILE to society to deserve. I dare EITHER of them to go over to IRAQ & show Moore's film to OUR TROOPS or donate even HALF of what their financial worth is to the families of those who have lost loved ones over their fighting for the right of Ronstadt & Moore to exercise their right to free speech!


38 posted on 09/05/2004 7:16:16 PM PDT by DarlaD365 (D.Dammann, Miami, FL)
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At least it is nice to know that most Americans sees Moore as the complete idiot that he is. It absolutely sickens me to know that there are losers like him who badmouth the very people who are literally defending their lives. I am one of a very few people: a conservative college student. You think it's tough being a conservative in every day life, try being a conservative on a college campus.


39 posted on 09/09/2004 4:31:55 PM PDT by tbschaef
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To: Jayhawk5150
Outstanding! So good that the folks at Snopes.com have linked to this thread, the origin. You've managed to generate some free publicity and probably more of an interest in the FreeRepublic - albeit some more Lefties to smack around to be sure.

Funniest damn thing about how I found out about this thread: a fellow FReeper (I'm certain that she was unaware) sent me an email passing your text off as the supposed letter of Mr. Timmins.

TFF!!!

40 posted on 09/17/2004 8:33:57 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe ("How the Far Right Has Been Left [and] Behind" - PJB Sandwich)
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