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Gun control issue to make appearance at DNC Convention
Newsday ^ | July 22, 2004 | J. Jioni Palmer

Posted on 07/22/2004 8:36:57 PM PDT by Mulder

With the ban on assault weapons set to expire in September, 10 years after it was enacted by Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-Mineola) will again try to bring the gun control issue to the forefront during a speech at the Democratic National Convention in Boston next week

McCarthy, who became a national advocate for tougher firearms laws after her husband was killed and son injured by a gunman on the Long Island Rail Road in 1993, said she hopes the speech stirs the American public to pressure Congress to pass another 10-year ban

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: awb; bang; banglist; carolynmccarthy; dncconvention; guncontrol; rhodesia

1 posted on 07/22/2004 8:36:58 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: *bang_list

bang


2 posted on 07/22/2004 8:37:11 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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I think the RAT strategy here is to get Bush to sign a new AWB, which will result in millions of gunowners sitting out the election or voting third (second?) party.

The democrats have finally figured out that gun control is a losing issue for them throughout most of the country, so their strategy is to have the guys at the top of ticket remain silent on the issue, while the gun-grabbing trolls at the lower levels push an anti-gun agenda.

3 posted on 07/22/2004 8:46:56 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Mulder

Bring it on. I hope she rants on and on about more gun control.


4 posted on 07/22/2004 8:47:37 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Mulder
I think the RAT strategy here is to get Bush to sign a new AWB, which will result in millions of gunowners sitting out the election or voting third (second?) party.

It'll never get past the House. I think last time Delay talked about the AWB, he said it is 20-30 votes short of the number needed to pass.

5 posted on 07/22/2004 8:50:33 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Mulder

6 posted on 07/22/2004 8:53:42 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: Mulder

I'd like to see this as well. Unless Kerry disavows her, and he can't afford to, that will be the message that the voters take away from the convention no matter how carefully he tries to be to stay ambiguous on the issue.


7 posted on 07/22/2004 8:54:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mulder

Excellent!

The Dims cant help themselves. Featuring scary strident gun grabbers may help pile up more useless votes for Kerry in Vermont, but will cost him big time in battleground states such as WV, PA, & OH, & MI.

8 posted on 07/22/2004 8:58:34 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Mulder
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-Mineola) will again try to bring the gun control issue to the forefront during a speech at the Democratic National Convention in Boston next week

Why not trot Rosie O'Donut out there like you did at the Million Moron March? Worked great for you then, didn't it?

hehehehehehehe!

Come to think of it, everything Rosie touches turns to s**t. You've got the Moron March, the Boy George Broadway fiasco, the Rosie magazine debacle, she showed up at Martha Stewart's trial and a juror was offended (I really like that one!). If I didn't know any better I'd say that woman's got a bad case of Karma on her hands.

9 posted on 07/22/2004 9:03:10 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Mulder

Great! Let the RATs throw another rant about gun control and see how many "undecideds" they lose. They know it's a loser issue for them, but their leftist base demands lip service (not the monica kind), so they will have to publicly take the losing side on a hot-button issue, and the RAT lapdog media will play it for all it's worth, obtusely refusing to realize they're hurting their own chosen candidate.


10 posted on 07/22/2004 9:04:11 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Mulder

This woman is a blithering idiot. When are they going to ban fence post (which was used to murder my son), screwdrivers, scissors, knives, hammers, bricks, bats, tire irons, bath tubs or hand & feet?????????? All have been used to kill many times over.


11 posted on 07/22/2004 9:06:54 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Mulder
Alright!

And let's point out that McCarthy cosponsored a bill that would ban all non smart pistols!

And John Kerry's vote for the .30-30

Keep talking!!!!!!!

12 posted on 07/22/2004 9:08:04 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: Mulder
McCarthy, who became a national advocate for tougher firearms laws

These ASSHoles should UNDERSTAND that there are 20,000 laws on the books. TWENTY-THOUSAND laws which 'could' be enforced. /rant

Waiting for my Ruger Vaquero Baisley .357 for a SASS shoot.

13 posted on 07/22/2004 9:08:51 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Mulder; Dan from Michigan
The Dems have already lost this fight. Now they'll just lose more votes over it.

6 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

14 posted on 07/22/2004 9:10:02 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: COEXERJ145
I think last time Delay talked about the AWB, he said it is 20-30 votes short of the number needed to pass.

Which is hardly a safe margin. 30/435 is less than 7 %, and 20/435 is just over 4.5 %

15 posted on 07/22/2004 9:13:40 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Southack

Is Carolyn a 'Pubbie sleeper?


16 posted on 07/22/2004 9:17:01 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: Southack

Is Carolyn a 'Pubbie sleeper?
(or are the Dims really this stupid?)


17 posted on 07/22/2004 9:17:28 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: Southack; All
I sent this to my local paper and it was printed. A dem got real mad at it and bashed it calling it a lie and said that John Kerry was a lifelong hunter. You and anyone here can copy this, change a couple of words, and send it to your local papers. I'd like to see John Kerry associated with .30-30 ban.

John Kerry has been traveling the country saying that he is a hunter and respects the Second Amendment. That is a joke, right? Who does he think he is fooling? Mr. Kerry's 20-year record in the senate exposes his dishonesty when he says he supports hunting.

Mr. Kerry voted for his Massachusetts colleague Ted Kennedy's Senate Amendment - SAMDT.2619. Even 12 Democrats, including liberals Pat Leahy and Tom Daschle, voted against this extremist infringement on our rights.

The bill bans almost all centerfire rifle ammunition that is considered "armored piercing bullets." The bill's definition of "armored piercing bullet" is whatever the Attorney General (Likely a Janet Reno clone under a Kerry presidency) decides it is.

Mr. Kennedy specially targeted the .30-30 round in a CSPAN speech. (Source: Page S1634-S1639 Congressional Record.) The .30-30 is one of America's most popular deer-hunting rounds. Since another hunting round, the .30-06, is more powerful than the .30-30, we would see that banned as well.

Mr. Kerry cannot vote for this bill and say that he supports hunting or the Second Amendment.

I was born at night, but not last night. John Kerry is a "Ted Kennedy" wolf in sheep's clothing.

18 posted on 07/22/2004 9:25:50 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Senator Kerry's voting record alone is enough to sink him in any national election.

Ban 30-30 ammo?! In Feinstein's dreams!

6 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

19 posted on 07/22/2004 9:28:47 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: El Gato
Which is hardly a safe margin. 30/435 is less than 7 %, and 20/435 is just over 4.5 %

I still wouldn't worry about it. Hastert and Delay have said it isn't going to come up for a vote regardless of what the Democrats and Senate want. The issue is DOA as far as the House leadership is concerned.

20 posted on 07/22/2004 9:41:19 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Mulder
Here is a little blast from the not-too-distant past.  A little reminder of who we know we can't trust AND who we THOUGHT we could trust.


NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, former NRA Director Rep. John Dingell and Sen. Chuck Schumer held a press conference Thursday, September 25, 2003, to announce their mutual enthusiastic support for the “National Instant Check Improvement Act,” which will require states to submit $1.25 Billion worth of additional information into the FBI's gun buyer background check database — including personal, private medical records people never knew would be used to prevent their ability to purchase firearms.


October 7, 2003

Former and Current NRA Directors on Stage with Avowed Gun Banners -- nothing like having
NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, former NRA Director Rep. John Dingell and Sen. Chuck Schumer held a press conference Thursday, September 25, 2003, to announce their mutual enthusiastic support for the “National Instant Check Improvement Act,” which will require states to submit $1.25 Billion worth of additional information into the FBI's gun buyer background check database — including personal, private medical records people never knew would be used to prevent their ability to purchase firearms. (Photo by Jeff Johnson, CNSNews.com, Click image to enlarge.)

KeepAndBearArms.com — “What do you get when you put a current and former board member of the National Rifle Association (NRA) in the same room with two of the most vehemently anti-gun members of the House and Senate?” asks CNSNews columnist Jeff Johnson in his Sept. 26 news report. “On Thursday, the answer to that question was: agreement.”

The NRA is enthusiastically endorsing a gun control bill that's also supported by avowed gun banners Sen. Charles Schumer and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy. Handgun Control, Inc. calls the bill “a sensible step that will save lives” — note the word “step” — which is what they say about banning semi-automatic rifles due to ergonomic and safety features, and what they've said in the past about completely banning handguns. 

NRA's former and current board members took the stage with two of America's premier gun banners, smiling as they announced unequivocal support for this new gun control bill. Rep. Dingell called the two gun prohibitionists “patriotic Americans” and praised them in other ways. Sen. Schumer and Rep. McCarthy vehemently oppose the intent and purpose of the Second Amendment and consistently sign on to bills that would ban guns. They were both elected to Congress — and pride themselves — on their gun banishment agendas. Some would have a hard time calling such people patriotic. NRA insider Dingell didn't stutter.

 

About the Legislation

This NRA/Schumer gun control bill is called the “NICS Improvement Act” and has just been introduced under that name in both houses of Congress (S.1706 & H.R.3237). The bill's alleged visible intent is “to improve the national instant criminal background check system, and for other purposes.”

By “i

By “improve”, according to the Washington Times, they actually mean to “add 35 million new records to the system.” CNSNews says that includes investing $1.25 Billion dollars over three years — roughly $4 for every man, woman and child in America — to add records to the FBI's database. The bill amounts to the bribing of States with federal money to add private, personal records to FBI's list of prohibited persons — to expand their list of people who cannot purchase or possess firearms — and to penalize States that fail to comply. Included in those records will be medical records.

As for the latest hatefest planed for the DNC, well,,, some dogs just can't quit howling . . .

21 posted on 07/22/2004 10:04:16 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: Mulder

Great! Let her speak. This is great news for The Prez.


22 posted on 07/22/2004 10:09:47 PM PDT by no dems (I obey whatever the voices in my wife's head tell me to do.)
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To: Mulder

Make it long and make it rabid. Show the faithful how much you hate guns. Give 'em both barrels, Carolyn.


23 posted on 07/22/2004 10:14:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Mulder
McCarthy, who became a national advocate for tougher firearms laws after her husband was killed and son injured by a gunman on the Long Island Rail Road in 1993

Was that the crazy black terrorist Colin Ferguson? And is this the same McCarthy behind this lawsuit:

A meritless lawsuit filed by victims' families against Olin, manufacturer of Black Talon ammunition, and Ruger, manufacturer of the gun Ferguson used in the killings, is dismissed because it would involve a wholesale expansion of tort law. McCarthy v. Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., 916 F.Supp. 366 (S.D.N.Y. 1996)
Banning guns isn't going to stop insane terrorists.
24 posted on 07/22/2004 10:19:05 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Mulder
The Democrats have finally found an issue they can win on!

The more they push gun control, the more they'll win.

I urge them to follow this advice.

25 posted on 07/22/2004 10:37:49 PM PDT by Ken H
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