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Border Hospitals send Collection Agents to Mexico
KVOA TV. Tucson, AZ ^ | July 21, 2004 | Elizabeth Vall

Posted on 07/23/2004 10:53:34 AM PDT by holyscroller

Hospitals losing millions from non-paying Mexican Nationals are now sending collections agents across the border.

At University Medical Center, both legal and illegal immigrants racked up $16 million in unpaid bills last year. A huge debt, collection agents are now tracking patients down in Mexico to pay.

If patients can't pay, it's written off as charity. If they can afford a payment plan, but refuse, agents inform them the hospital will turn their name over to Immigration and Naturalization and Border Patrol agents.

This can hurt their ability to cross back into the U.S. freely.

Typically, collection agents only recover 8% of what hospitals are owed.

Marj Sisson, UMC Transition Management, says it's still worth it. She says, "Even if we net back half a million dollars, half a million can do a lot."

Hospitals in Bisbee and Yuma are also relying on collection agents to bring back millions of dollars in payments from Mexico.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aliens; deadbeats; freeloaders; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; wetbacks
Good for these hospitals. I'd also like to see whatever charges the taxpayers get stuck with, deducted from any Foreign Aid. It's about time these freeloaders learn that actions have consequences. You run up a bill, -- you then PAY IT!
1 posted on 07/23/2004 10:53:35 AM PDT by holyscroller
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To: holyscroller

Here's a better idea, no free healthcare for illegals. I can't get free healthcare & I pay taxes! Support prop 200.


2 posted on 07/23/2004 10:55:59 AM PDT by AZamericonnie (Fox news "Fair and Balanced" Friday. They report, we decide.)
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To: gubamyster; Tailgunner Joe; *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; ...

Illegal ping. One small step toward justice. Now if only GW would quit inviting them to Suckerland.


3 posted on 07/23/2004 10:59:54 AM PDT by holyscroller
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To: gubamyster; Tailgunner Joe; *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; ...

Illegal ping. One small step toward justice. Now if only GW would quit inviting them to Suckerland.


4 posted on 07/23/2004 11:00:07 AM PDT by holyscroller
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..

ping


5 posted on 07/23/2004 11:00:19 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: holyscroller
At University Medical Center, both legal and illegal immigrants racked up $16 million in unpaid bills last year.

They should pay up front for any services they wish to obtain in the USA. They have their own hospitals and doctors --- but they charge them for services --- to get completely free health care, they've become too accustomed to coming north. Close the border, provide nothing but emergency first aid type care and send them back.

6 posted on 07/23/2004 11:20:07 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: holyscroller
Now if only GW would quit inviting them to Suckerland.

He won't - he doesn't see any of this as a problem as he sits in his ivory tower.

7 posted on 07/23/2004 11:22:28 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: holyscroller

blood from a turnipseed.
good luck collecting.get paid in chickens.


8 posted on 07/23/2004 11:24:50 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece-(carry daily;apply sparingly))
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To: holyscroller

I was hoping they'd just send the bill to the government of Mexico. Lotsa luck collecting from individuals.


9 posted on 07/23/2004 11:27:38 AM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: holyscroller

the federal law mandating hospitals and physicians who get medicare-medicaid payments to treat illegal aliens needs to be annuled


10 posted on 07/23/2004 11:31:14 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: holyscroller

the federal law mandating hospitals and physicians who get medicare-medicaid payments to treat illegal aliens needs to be annuled


11 posted on 07/23/2004 11:31:23 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: AZamericonnie

excellent point


12 posted on 07/23/2004 11:31:58 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: y2k_free_radical

Deport them to Crawford, TX.


13 posted on 07/23/2004 11:51:18 AM PDT by jocko12
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To: holyscroller
Cool! Go get 'em!
14 posted on 07/23/2004 4:58:20 PM PDT by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism..." Mel Gibson)
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To: holyscroller
Good for these hospitals.

Do you honestly think our government will allow the hospitals to continue to bill Mexico? I don't. Our government will make the American people pay these bills by hitting us with much higher taxes after the election.

15 posted on 07/23/2004 5:09:51 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx
all I have to say is

Sic 'em!!


16 posted on 07/23/2004 6:38:49 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: holyscroller

That's the only way to deal with illegal immigration. Until the Mexican government has to start pitching in, there will be no changes. As long as Mexico is allowed to fund its entire corrupt socialist state on the income made by Mexicans in the US without contributing a dime to assist them (in fact, it will not even repatriate Mexican criminals at its own cost), the border will remain out of control.

My feeling has always been that the heat has to be turned up on the Mexican government. Heck, if I lived in Mexico, I'd be crawling across the Rio Grande, too - it's a dysfunctional country, and we've enabled it.


17 posted on 07/23/2004 6:45:42 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius; SandRat; FITZ; swampfox98; janetgreen; gubamyster; holyscroller
Tom Tancreda tossed this idea to his fellow Congressmen the other day:

"$30 billion a year flows out of the United States just to Latin America in the form of remittances. There are seven or eight countries in the world that have more than 10 percent of their gross domestic product coming to them in the form of remittances from the United States or countries outside their boundaries, but primarily from the United States; $30 billion alone to Latin America.

Where does this money come from? It comes, of course, from the people who work here; who, if they were not sending that money home, they would be investing it in the communities in which they live. But since they are not, those communities are denied the benefits of that multiplier effect. The jobs are not being created, the economy is not being stimulated in these communities, and the money is going primarily south.

So, I have been thinking about this for a while, and when I saw this report I felt that maybe something could be done in the following manner: We every year send billions of dollars overseas to many countries in the form of foreign aid. Much of this money, as everyone knows, ends up in the hands of corrupt dictators or corrupt governments, even if they call themselves democratically elected, and it oftentimes never, ever, ever gets to the most worthy recipient. So I am going to propose an amendment to the foreign operations bill that says that every dollar that we send in the form of a remittance to some other country will be deducted from the money we send them in the form of foreign aid.

Now, this will be quite controversial, of course. It should not be controversial to any Member of the Congress of the United States. It will certainly be opposed by the governments of Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Jordan and Haiti. All of these countries will be furious at the possibility that their check will be reduced by the amount of money that their nationals are sending back to people in their country.

But, after all, Mr. Speaker, if in fact foreign aid is simply the transfer of wealth from one country to another, then why is a remittance not that same thing? In fact, it is going to people who probably really need it, and it is far more efficient, far more efficient than the check we send to corrupt governments in terms of the usage."
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Why stop there? Not only cut their aid for remittances, deduct the outstanding balance for services rendered. Heck, when you add it all up those countries would have to pay us. End the parasitic dependences that perpetuate those governments' corruption in this manner.

Just one more marvelous disincentive (along with denying driver's licenses, recognition of matricular consulars, housing assistance and loitering plus crackdowns on document fraud and employers) that has to be dragged over the Democrat Party's figuratively dead body.

18 posted on 07/24/2004 12:16:41 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus ("Abdul M. Achmed Gonzalas - Allah be praised, the infidels will never catch on.")
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Definitely foreign aid should be frozen at current levels and free health care for the border crossers from Mexico should be deducted out of it. Also the costs of educating their children and prison care for their criminals.


19 posted on 07/24/2004 6:20:33 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: swampfox98; gubamyster; Missouri; SandRat

Actually, the hospitals have hired collection agencies to go after deadbeat Mexican citizens.

The Mexican government has been cut out of the equation. Since the two governments can't get their poop in a group, good old capitalism has taken over.


20 posted on 07/24/2004 10:45:09 AM PDT by HiJinx ("Air Force Brat, Army Vet")
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To: FITZ
The first thing I thought of when reading this article was the bounty hunter's fate in "The Outlaw Josey Wales".

"Are you a bounty hunter bill collector?"
"A man's gotta do something for a living."
"Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy gringo."

21 posted on 07/24/2004 11:48:12 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus ($5,000 bounty on employers who knowingly hire illegals, prosecuted. - just a suggestion.)
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To: holyscroller
If they can afford a payment plan, but refuse, agents inform them the hospital will turn their name over to Immigration and Naturalization and Border Patrol agents.

This can hurt their ability to cross back into the U.S. freely.

How? Do the coyotes now require a credit check before accepting clients?

22 posted on 07/24/2004 11:51:07 AM PDT by asgardshill ("I like the yellow ones")
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To: y2k_free_radical

They had a vote to repeal it in Congress and our political class took a pass.


23 posted on 07/24/2004 11:51:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Yes --- the bounty hunter/bill collectors need to remember what the Mexicans did to Enrique Camarena. Mexico is very rigid about it's sovereignty --- even while demanding we give out our own.


24 posted on 07/24/2004 3:39:10 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: asgardshill

Kind of a joke huh --- besides they can easily obtain fake ID's and cross over the border check points -- Vicente Fox dictated that no fingerprints be taken, no checks be done to make sure someone is really who their ID says they are.


25 posted on 07/24/2004 3:41:00 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: janetgreen
He won't - he doesn't see any of this as a problem as he sits in his ivory tower.

Maybe he will when Arizona and Texas become solidly blue.

26 posted on 07/25/2004 10:02:18 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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