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73 percent of all federal income taxes needed to fund Medicare and Social Security entitlements
Comments on 2004 Social Security Trustees' Report ^ | 7/23/04 | Mike Thompson

Posted on 07/23/2004 2:33:35 PM PDT by mft112345

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To: mft112345

If we want to prevent SS from going under, I propose that members of congress pay into SS just like everyone else, and discontinue the golden parachutes they have instituted for themselves.


41 posted on 07/23/2004 3:59:02 PM PDT by chainsaw (http://www.hanoi-john.org.)
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To: mft112345

Didn't I hear that they are now going to cever obesity?

Look for a lot of fat folks joining health clubs on our taxes.


42 posted on 07/23/2004 4:00:04 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Rockitz

Why? Just raise it by 5 years right now and phase out Social Security altogether.


43 posted on 07/23/2004 4:00:05 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: mft112345
Jokingly, I asked him whether it was time to move to a different country, and he said every country is facing similar demographic problems.

It's not about demographic problems --- the whole problem is that it's a Socialist program and Socialism just doesn't work for very long. Mexico has about the highest birth rate in the world and it's government retirement plan is going broke before ours which is why they're demanding to be included in ours.

44 posted on 07/23/2004 4:02:48 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: chainsaw
I propose that members of congress pay into SS just like everyone else

They have - since 1984

45 posted on 07/23/2004 4:04:33 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: RockinRight

Think things will be better by 2050?

What makes you think so? Don't you know that Social Security benefits have been increased every election cycle since 1937?


46 posted on 07/23/2004 4:39:19 PM PDT by edger (A)
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To: sarcasm
What about the golden parachutes?
47 posted on 07/23/2004 4:45:42 PM PDT by chainsaw (http://www.hanoi-john.org.)
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To: chainsaw

Congressional pensions are another story - they do, however, pay Social Security tax.


48 posted on 07/23/2004 4:50:25 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: mft112345

Why don't you post your own thoughts over on the blogs...you set this up to look like it is someone important or something that is something more than just another opinion...We all got opinions but we aren't so desperate as to post our own ramblings as if it were NEWS


49 posted on 07/23/2004 6:11:54 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: mft112345
statement A: Congress would have to devote "73 percent of all income taxes from now until eternity" in order to pay for the two entitlement programs.

Statement B: Repeating a warning from the 2004 Social Security Trustees report, Saving said these two programs are expected to consume 1/4 of all federal income taxes by 2019, and added that he doesn't expect Congress or the American people to allow this to happen

So....is it 73% or is it 1/4th?

Can someone explain this to me? It seems to be a mistake....can't be both ways.

50 posted on 07/23/2004 6:40:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: edger

No, I just hope we can turn the tide. For all of our sakes.


51 posted on 07/23/2004 7:18:36 PM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: Integrityrocks
"There is serious doubt if the system will resemble what it is today by 2050.

No problem! The real threat arrives in 2027. Nothing else will matter then.

52 posted on 07/23/2004 9:08:43 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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To: snopercod
"I'm actually looking forward to living at the expense of all the liberal voters who think SS and Medicare are a great thing."

Sadly it is our kids and grandkids who will be paying for you and me. These expenses are not money coming out of a savings "lock box". These now are pretty much hand to someone else's mouth.

Now you are not paying for YOUR future needs, you are paying for current recipients. Now that is sad. What is worse is the drug benefits will explode because of the way it is written. So the entire estimate is probably way low.
53 posted on 07/23/2004 10:01:41 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

"with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental
dependency" phase."

Now that is pathetic.


54 posted on 07/23/2004 10:06:22 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: xzins
The 73% refers to all income taxes, specifically. The 1/4 refers to all federal taxes combined.
55 posted on 07/23/2004 10:12:34 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: mft112345

Well we should start phasing out Social Security for anybody not in the work force right now. Good thing I am going to be a minister so I can opt out of that garbage


56 posted on 07/23/2004 11:30:12 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Bush - Cheney 2004, Now More Than Ever!)
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To: chainsaw

"If we want to prevent SS from going under, I propose that members of congress pay into SS just like everyone else, and discontinue the golden parachutes they have instituted for themselves."

Here, here! Then throw in all those public employees, many work for Social Security, who will never have to worry about SS benefits or medicare.


57 posted on 07/23/2004 11:43:41 PM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: Born in a Rage

Income taxes account for only 25-30% of fed taxes? Are they counting the FICA as an income tax?

Where does the remainder come from?


58 posted on 07/24/2004 5:36:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Reagan79

"statement A: Congress would have to devote "73 percent of all income taxes from now until eternity" in order to pay for the two entitlement programs.
Statement B: Repeating a warning from the 2004 Social Security Trustees report, Saving said these two programs are expected to consume 1/4 of all federal income taxes by 2019, and added that he doesn't expect Congress or the American people to allow this to happen


So....is it 73% or is it 1/4th?

Can someone explain this to me? It seems to be a mistake....can't be both ways."

Apologies. To clarify: He said, assuming federal income taxes follow the same trend as they have over the last 50 years, Congress would have to apply 73 percent of income taxes from now until eternity to pay for the two programs.


59 posted on 07/24/2004 7:29:37 AM PDT by mft112345
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To: Reagan79

""If we want to prevent SS from going under, I propose that members of congress pay into SS just like everyone else, and discontinue the golden parachutes they have instituted for themselves."

Here, here! Then throw in all those public employees, many work for Social Security, who will never have to worry about SS benefits or medicare."

Most members of Congress elected after a certain year in the 1980s do pay into social security. Call your congressman and ask for a report on this subject from the library of congress.


60 posted on 07/24/2004 7:31:43 AM PDT by mft112345
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