Posted on 07/23/2004 5:53:33 PM PDT by SunnySide
This guy must be about 150 years old - sure looks young for his age.
I guess that would make me a ex-indentured servant.
Geneology is irrelevant. If he believes he is an ex-slave, then he is. With certain mentalities (and hollywood is a moron magnet) their perception is reality.
Exactly what I was thinking. I think people should SEE his reactions and the WAY he was talking...I thought he was about to get legit ticked off at Streep...and he was getting all over Katie C at one point too. He said "I don't need to see it" with sort of a "Why would I want to see that pile of crap" sneer...then, as you say, sort of laying claim to "hey, I know more about it than M.M'
Also he actually told Streep maybe Jesus meant US since WE (the actors) are so RICH.
Remember, talking against the party line can get you kicked out of the game. I think Will Smith is a closet Republican (or at least is sane), but what kind of fire would come down if they actually SAID it? I'm not familar with Denzel's public comments though.
"I can think of people I know today who do each of those things, who are happy people who are not slaves at all.
Think about it."
I'm sure you are correct BUT he needed to be MORE SPECIFIC when he said that "he is an ex-slave". An ex-slave of whom or what?
And his whole demeanor with Streep was extremely condescending, rather male chaunistic. If he doesn't like or believe what anothers opinion is fine but wisdom allows another view point to at least be "heard". Denzel does not give the respect he so demands for himself = bitter arrogance.
Denzel, you like the rest of us humans were born with 2 eyes and 2 ears and ONLY 1 mouth. Here's your clue, that means you(we) were intended to see and "listen" twice as much as you(we) speak.
You guys might be overreacting. I can't claim to actually understand that sentence, but 1) he didn't see the "movie" and 2) he challenged Streep, so who knows.
On the other hand, he's in the Manchurian candidate which apparently is a huge dig against republicans.
Here in Atlanta PBS is playing the original "Manchurian Candidate" with Frank Sinatra and Angela Landsbury.
I guess PBS didn't get the memo. It's a Bush Bashing movie all previous copies need to be bergered.
Uh, Meryl Streep had PLENTY of time to shill her ridiculous viewpoint, and Denzel disagreed...I don't see the problem with that. Her points were stupid and ludicrous..she DESERVED to be condescended to.
ok... what does
FMCDH(BITS)
mean????
thanking you in advance :)
One can hope!
I read his comment as meaning that he not only hasn't seen the movie, but he didn't plan to see it, because he's an American. The part about being an ex-slave was possibly to underscore the many generations of his ancestors who have lived in America. In other words, he was saying his roots are in America, and they are deep. The fact that he later disagreed with Strep and also distanced himself from Hollywood, makes me think this interpretation is correct.
Good points. This is one interview where one should really be able to see the WAY he said things..it will look a lot different in print.
You guys might be overreacting. I can't claim to actually understand that sentence, but 1) he didn't see the "movie" and 2) he challenged Streep, so who knows.
On the other hand, he's in the Manchurian candidate which apparently is a huge dig against republicans.
I hope you're right cause when you are being publicly interviewed like Denzel was ones meaning can be totally misunderstood, misrepresented by the wrong body language and short quotes said out of context. He just seemed too glib without enough definition. Maybe he felt he couldn't resond what he really felt due to the pressures of the Hollywood lefties black balling republicans. (shrug) who knows. But I've seen Denzel in many other interviews over the course of his career and his smug condescending 'tude especially towards women is dismal. It's as if he can't be bothered with (in his view) silly women who belong back in the kitchen(that other slavery acceptable to men of all races).
I lean toward your view of what he said. He has opted out of seeing the film. He made the point that he is an American, and his remark about being an "ex-slave" may have meant to say that he as descendent of slaves has done well in America.
He has distanced himselves from the other Hollywood types, and he took that opportunity to avoid criticizing America and the war. Obviously he hasn't been forthrightly for the war, he hasn't come out as a Republican and probably never will. But he is one of the few, now, to have avoided insulting the president, and he had the perfect opportunity had he wanted to. He didn't.
If Denzel can shut Streep's mouth then he's okay in my book!
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I have updated my FMCDH sign-off with the addition of (BITS).....Blood In The Streets, which I foresee coming soon, due to the enormous increase of the communist progressive movement being shoved down the throat of this failing REPUBLIC through the Judicial tyranny of fiat law, and the passing of unconstitutional laws by the Legislative and Executive branches of our government.
FMCDH(BITS)
Sorry Denzel but you're not an exslave!
You are a slave of the liberal elite who have even you, the most acclaimed black actor of your generation, mouthing the pseudo status of victimhood.
Denzel, you should be ashamed of your self.
But you can only feel shame if you have a conscience.
Or some of us ex-serfs. Still --- since he didn't see 9-11 --- I wonder what he meant by saying he is an ex-slave.
Damn you put a good scald on that chicken...now fetch me a beer honeybuns.
FMCDH(BITS)
I've often wondered why Blacks did not take the PR stance that said, 'if anyone has truly earned the title of American Citizen, it is us.' They were as instrumental in the development of infant America as any group of people could ever hope to be.
Sometimes I think that the same PR propensities presently driving the NAACP are identical to those of the PLO. Stupid, stupid, stupid!
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