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Why Canít the Washington Post Keep Circulation Up?
Washingtonian ^ | 07/23/04 | HARRY JAFFE

Posted on 07/23/2004 6:47:52 PM PDT by Pikamax

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1 posted on 07/23/2004 6:47:52 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

We get it but I hate it more every day. It is like reading a DNC handout.Slightly better than the NYT but only SLIGHTLY.


2 posted on 07/23/2004 6:52:12 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Pikamax

I'm depressed to hear the Boston Globe is getting more readers. I know personally of people who have left it because of its liberal and extreme anti-Catholic bias.


3 posted on 07/23/2004 6:54:16 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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One thing the Post has not done is lay off reporters or editors

Hey. There's something to try. Start with Ellen Goodman and Richard Cohen.

4 posted on 07/23/2004 6:56:38 PM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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To: Pikamax
I quit subscribing to the Washington Post several years ago because it had become consumingly offensive.

The editors and writers regularly accuse Christians of being evil, for example. They infiltrate stories about water filtration systems with paeons to abortion, and feature folks in interviews I wouldn't stop my car to avoid hitting.

Then they began sueing non-Liberal websites that C&Pd portions of their news articles.

I think the last straw was when they turned the corporate lesbian harpies loose on Richard Cohen and Juan Williams. Although they are mind-numbed, robot-like knee-jerk Liberals, they are entertaining, and sometimes actually come up with a new way of looking at things. This was unconscionable.

The Post can never recover.

5 posted on 07/23/2004 6:56:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Unam Sanctam
I'm depressed to hear the Boston Globe is getting more readers. I know personally of people who have left it because of its liberal and extreme anti-Catholic bias.

.I find that odd myself, I rarely see the Globe on anybody's doorstep lately,and I'm in lefty central.

I think their advertisers could benefit from an audit of the Globe's circulation claims.

6 posted on 07/23/2004 6:59:35 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I'm a Globe reader and came very,very close to cancelling my subscription during the gay marriage period but I didn't because it has more "meat" than the Herald.

The classifieds,real estate.travel,arts,science,food and even the death notices are more thorough than the Herald.

I've been reading it for 50 years and old habits are hard to break.

Thank God for Free Republic and the alternative views I receive.


7 posted on 07/23/2004 7:00:32 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Pikamax

In DC Metro area, The Washington Times is an alternative, one of the best conservative papers around.

It's online, too

http://www.washtimes.com


8 posted on 07/23/2004 7:02:23 PM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.washtimes.com)
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To: Pikamax

Because I only buy the Post when the Washington Times is sold out- and the Washington Times is usually sold out quickly around here- even though I live in a democrat town.


9 posted on 07/23/2004 7:04:42 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Pikamax
USA Today gained 2.3 percent to reach 2.1 million in circulation.

I don't think that this is a fair comparison since most issues of USA Today seem to be give-aways at hotels. I was travelling this week and had 4 copies dropped by my door and between them I probably read at most 3 articles.

10 posted on 07/23/2004 7:05:46 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: jwalburg
Hey. There's something to try. Start with Ellen Goodman and Richard Cohen.

Isn't Goodman based at the Globe?

foreverfree

11 posted on 07/23/2004 7:07:33 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Pikamax

The Post's lefty bias will only alienate half of the local readership, which, like the rest of the US, is pretty evenly split between conservatives and liberals. The difficulty is that its editorial style is nauseating. The editors appear to believe that it's appealing to write in a snarky, derisory, cutesy style. So after awhile they lose even their liberal readers. At least the NYT makes one gag on the basis of content, not style.


12 posted on 07/23/2004 7:08:03 PM PDT by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
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To: jwalburg

My nomination for the first to go: Dana Milbank.


13 posted on 07/23/2004 7:10:15 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Redcoat LI
I find that odd myself, I rarely see the Globe on anybody's doorstep lately,and I'm in lefty central.

Methinks I smell another New York Newsday-type circulation scandal.

14 posted on 07/23/2004 7:11:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Pikamax

I don't subscribe to the Compost...my parakeet died.


15 posted on 07/23/2004 7:12:03 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Pikamax
Let me see if I understand the question...

Clinton is out of office for almost four years, and the Washington Post is now wondering why they can't keep it up anymore?

-PJ

16 posted on 07/23/2004 7:12:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Pikamax
Why Can’t the Washington Post Keep Circulation Up?

Relentless front page coverage of Abu Ghraib, Berger granted inside space (though the Berger stories are well written, well researched and devoid of partisan tone, so kudos on that score). But look at their upside down analysis/editorial of the two stories today. They have the two reversed in the scope they encompass.

And that's just for an example. There are many others.

17 posted on 07/23/2004 7:14:03 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Miss Marple
My nomination for the first to go: Dana Milbank.

Next should be Dana Priest. Both Danas should go.

18 posted on 07/23/2004 7:15:22 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Pikamax
Why Can’t the Washington Post Keep Circulation Up?

Because they SUCK. That's why.

19 posted on 07/23/2004 7:16:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: Miss Marple

I second that.

And next--Pincus..


20 posted on 07/23/2004 7:16:55 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Pikamax

Well let's see. They are owned in part by Warren Buffet who is also a Kerry financial adviser. They choose to ignore FEC rules on campaign equal coverage. They lie through their teeth. Many more reasons also. Washington post is just one of many failing liberal papers. I am not shopping at Nebraska Furniture Mart which is owned by Buffet, ever!!!


21 posted on 07/23/2004 7:17:39 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: cyncooper; Miss Marple
Next should be Dana Priest. Both Danas should go.

They should leave together on a double-dana.

22 posted on 07/23/2004 7:21:05 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Re-elect Bush - because Kerry just doesn't have the time.)
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To: Miss Marple
My nomination for the first to go: Dana Milbank.

But, but, but, Dana Milbank is a Skull and Bones guy.

I'm torn between Milbank, Dana Priest, Mike Allen, Walter Pinkus, Ceci Connelley, et al. Cripies, get rid of all of those pukes.

23 posted on 07/23/2004 7:26:57 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

When I was younger there used to be a Globe on every porch in the morning,lying there,looking very sinister.

Now they are few and far between.

I think they are cooking the books.


24 posted on 07/23/2004 7:28:16 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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To: Redleg Duke

"Compost...my parakeet died."

I'm sorry the rotting stench killed your beloved pet.


25 posted on 07/23/2004 7:36:33 PM PDT by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: Pikamax
If the NYT is gaining readers, why are advertisers dumping them in droves? And why is their stock in the crapper?

the New York Times, and the Boston Globe are gaining them

26 posted on 07/23/2004 7:37:08 PM PDT by DManA
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To: jackbill

Easy now. Ceci's kinda cute.


27 posted on 07/23/2004 7:37:32 PM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: muawiyah
"I think the last straw was when they turned the corporate lesbian harpies loose on Richard Cohen and Juan Williams."

I must have missed this. What's the story behind that statement? I see Williams on Special Report/Brit Hume often but he always struck me as more of a DNC operative than an analyst, and I thought he worked for NPR. Seems like this would be right up the Post's alley.

28 posted on 07/23/2004 7:42:27 PM PDT by Oblongata
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At the top of the heap, USA Today gained 2.3 percent to reach 2.1 million in circulation.

I usually buy the W Times, but this week USA Today had a fabulous page 1 picture comparison of the two candidates. They showed each candidate saluting. A handsome President Bush was holding his hand as straight as an arrow, showing respect. John Kerry's hand was arced over and his fingers were wavy. It was a pre-botox picture, so he looked really bad. I bought it.

My local Giant Food Store had a kiosk right inside the door today trying to get subscribers by practically giving away free Washington Post's. I almost went over to the young man and told him that I didn't think that anyone should read the leftist rag, but he was just trying to do a job, so I moved on.

29 posted on 07/23/2004 7:44:30 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Pikamax
Hilarious (yet typical) article, ignoring the giant elephant in the middle of the room.

Hey Post guy, c'mere...Switching megaphone on: YOUR SHAMELESS AND RELENTLESS LEFT-WING BIAS FORCES HUGE SECTIONS OF THE POPULATION TO GIVE UP AND STOP BUYING YOUR PRODUCT.

30 posted on 07/23/2004 7:54:40 PM PDT by Jhensy
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To: RealPiedPiper
Williams worked for the Post, and the usual suspects filed sexual harrassment charges against him. The Post owns the Boston Globe, and the usual suspects accused him of sexual harrassment as well.

Both men were made to kneel and kiss the ring.

Williams had a bit more pride and left the Post. Cohen is older, near retirement, and was treated like an animal by his management.

The Post, it's reporters, editors, managers and owners are "dirty". They are not good people and should never be trusted.

31 posted on 07/23/2004 7:54:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Unam Sanctam

A few months ago Newsday's circ seemed OK :-)


32 posted on 07/23/2004 7:58:39 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Pikamax
The New York Times, which has cushioned its local circulation base by positioning itself as a national daily distributed countrywide, gained a few thousand readers to hover just above 1.1 million. At

As someone who works at a newspaper, I can safely say that between 10-20 percent of newspaper circulation are "freebies," such as issues donated to schools, hospitals, hotels, and other public venues.

Likewise, whenever a newspaper manager sees circulation falling, he or she often launches into promotional mode in which he gives away thousands of additional newspapers just so he can claim the numbers are going up.

How many times have you stayed in a hotel only to find a free USA Today or NY Times at your doorstep in the morning.

One paper I worked at GAVE every school in its territory a stack of about 100 newspapers each and every morning, for the students AND for the faculty. These were included in the daily circulation numbers even though the paper did not get one red cent.

It was their little scam to try and hook the kiddies into reading their paper every day.

33 posted on 07/23/2004 8:03:08 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: Pikamax

Obviously, they haven't been taking their V1AKG-RA


34 posted on 07/23/2004 8:07:45 PM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: muawiyah

I don't get it, the (com)Post has the best comics section in the country, and since they move Dumsbury to the front of the Style page, that idiot no longer gets between me and Hagar. Am I the last conservative to still read it?

I have a political friend who bagged his subscription a few years ago; he re-subscribed when friends kept calling him, wondering if he'd seen his picture and bad press in the Post... He had to stay up with the cr*p they were throwing at him.

The Post also has an awesome sports section, give or take Kornheiser, who's an idiot. I subscribe for two reasons: 1) Thomas Boswell; and 2) Know thyne enemy.

The Post became the Post when the Evening Star died to Walter Cronkite. The Star was the best paper since forever, and the talent went to the Post. The paper lives off its high-profile columnist talent, and that's it. With only a few exceptions, the news reporting sucks. They can't even get out a good local page (sports excepted).

If you ever do historical work going back to the 19th century and early 20th, stick to the NY Times (generally a solid paper all the way through to the 1960s, and certainly through the 1920s) and the Washington Star. The (com)Post owns the Star archives. It bagged the Star in favor of its own pathetic archives for the Proquest digitization project. I'm stuck with microfilm for the Star. It's worth the extra effort.

The (com)Post is an academic profile of business atrophy.


35 posted on 07/23/2004 8:12:15 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: Pikamax
Here are figures for the top 20 daily newspapers:

The newspaper name is followed by average daily circulation, gain/(loss), and percentage gain/(loss).

1. USA Today, McLean, Va. (M-F*) 2,280,761; 49,029; 2.2%
2. The Wall Street Journal (M-F) 2,101,017**; 280,417; 15.4%
3. The New York Times (M-F) 1,133,763; 3,023; 0.3%
4. Los Angeles Times (M-Sat*)#983,727; 4,178; 0.5%
5. The Washington Post (M-F) 772,553; (23,814); (3%)
6. Daily News, New York (M-F) 747,053; 10,023; 1.4%
7. New York Post (M-F) 678,012; 57,932; 9.3%
8. Chicago Tribune (M-F*) 614,548; (6,557);(1.1%)
9. Newsday, Melville, N.Y. (M-F) 580,346; 995; 0.2%
10. Houston Chronicle (M-Sat) 549,300; 792; 0.1%
11. The Dallas Morning News (M-F*) 529,879; (2,172); (0.4%)
12. San Francisco Chronicle (M-F) 501,135; (13,130); (2.6%)
13. Chicago Sun-Times (M-F) 486,936; (1,551); (0.3)%
14. The Arizona Republic, Phoenix (M-Sat) 466,926; (19,205); (4%)
15. The Boston Globe (M-F) 452,109; 3,334; 0.7%
16. The Star-Ledger, Newark, N.J. (M-F) 407,945; 215; 0.0%
17. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (M-F*) 401,077; (18,491); (4.4%)
18. The Philadelphia Inquirer (M-F) 387,692; 802; 0.2%
19. Star Tribune, Minneapolis (M-Sat) 377,058; 1,552; 0.4%
20. The Plain Dealer, Cleveland (M-Sat) 367,528; (5,609); (1.5%)

* Averages calculated by E&P.
** Includes 301,162 paid online subscriptions qualified under ABC rules. Online subscriptions were not counted in the year-ago figure.
# Change in publishing plan and/or frequency.

As is noted elsewhere, you can't go to a hotel in the US without having a USA Today dropped at your door, and I've noticed a lot of restaurants like McDonald's and Dennys have them for people to read around breakfast time. Their total paid circulation is probably around 50. How often do you see them at supermarket checkout stands?

The NY Times gained less than 1/2 of 1 percent, despite going national. I suspect the problem the Washington Post has is that their news people are older than the on-air talent at 60 Minutes. Also, by the time anything hits print, it's not news. I don't get the newspaper anymore because anything I would have an interest in reading is already posted on the internet, I can read it from six different viewpoints, and also read the parts the local paper cut out to save space.

As a side note, I photograph sports for a local high school and the local newspaper. I post them to my web site, also. The parents all tell me, "I saw your photos in the paper." The kids all tell me, "I saw your photos online." It's a small weekly paper, and the kids see 20 to 30 photos on Saturday morning, while their parents see 5 or 6 photos the following Thursday. Newspapers are dying. The way the country's growing, they wouldn't be fighting to hold even if the whole concept of "newspaper" wasn't becoming outdated. I think their problem is two-fold. Literacy is dropping, while people who are smart enough to read a newspaper go online. Notice the Dallas Morning News. It's in one of the fastest growing regions of the country and dropped 2,000 readers. Of course, it was once locally owned and conservative and has been bought out by a major liberal chain (I think Cox).

I also noticed the LA Times reported a readership increase, but the # indicates a change in something about the way they report, and I know they just had a bunch of layoffs because of falling revenues.

BTW, info is from editorandpublisher.com, a pretty good source for news about the news business.

36 posted on 07/23/2004 8:17:09 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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It's the commutes, and two income families - there's no one home to read the paper during the day. So the damn things pile up unread for weeks until they get moved to the recycle bin.

We have to get on the road early to get to work on time, and by the time we get home in the afternoon, the news is stale. There's no elbow room on the metro during morning rush hour to do a quick read, either.

Anything we would need the weekday edition for, like sports scores or headlines, we can get online or from Channel 4 news (which runs from 5 AM to 7 AM). The news is fresher from those sources, too. News moves fast around here.

37 posted on 07/23/2004 8:18:19 PM PDT by vollmond (DS2 CV-66 83-87)
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To: Pikamax
Two Words: Extreme Bi-ass!!!

Pray for W and The Truth

38 posted on 07/23/2004 8:29:07 PM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants more gummit!)
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To: Pikamax
Gee, have you thought about trying a little.....balance? You piss off half your readers they are eventually going to look elsewhere for their news.

What on earth is the matter with liberals? Why do they think we will put up endlessly with them trying to shove their agenda down our throats?

There is nothing, not even the web, that can compare to the comfort of curling up with a cup of coffee and a good newspaper in the morning, but when that experience ends up making you so mad you eventually stop. If it hurts when you do something, stop doing it.

39 posted on 07/23/2004 8:30:29 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


40 posted on 07/23/2004 8:37:52 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Richard Kimball

Thanks for posting. Now note that two newspaper the New York Post and the WSJ made huge gains in circulation. Quick quiz: what didn't the article mention them?


41 posted on 07/23/2004 8:43:05 PM PDT by Tribune7
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Why can't the Post keep circulation up?

An editorial page that features Richard Cohen, E.J. Dionne, and William Raspberry.....

Regular reporters such as Dana Milbank (the VERY epitome of a Bush bashing MSM lib).....

Howard Kurtz's column critiquing the media while he also hosts a show on CNN....

Michael Wilbon the most over-rated sportswriter in the nation and master of stating the obvious in the most pedestrian terms....

BOONDOCKS on the comics page.....

But I understate!

The only things - THE ONLY THINGS! - worth reading in the Post - aka Pravda on the Potomac - are Stephen Hunter's movie reviews.


42 posted on 07/23/2004 8:43:06 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pikamax
The fools still don't get it

Oh well .. maybe they'll wake up soon .. but I doubt it

43 posted on 07/23/2004 8:47:31 PM PDT by Mo1 (50 States .... I want all 50 States come November!)
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To: Richard Kimball
Interesting to note that the Wallstreet Journal and the New York Post had HUGE gains.

It's also satisfying to note that the Arizona Republic has lost 4%. They are constantly calling me trying to give me a "free" subscription and I just laugh at them. I've told them time and time again that I wouldn't even take their liberal rag for free. Once they threw a free paper on my lawn, I called them and told them if they ever did that again I'd report them for littering.

44 posted on 07/23/2004 8:47:48 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Miss Marple; cyncooper

My first thought when reading the thread title, "Why Can’t the Washington Post Keep Circulation Up?".....

... was Dana Milbank. And that was prior to opening the thread.


45 posted on 07/23/2004 9:09:07 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: Pikamax

They should ask me. I could tell them.

But then, in their world, things like my tag line would probably make me not worth listening to.

And there's the problem.


46 posted on 07/23/2004 9:11:07 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: McGavin999
hehe I like your style.

I have a sign on my door that addresses these issues: No sales people; no witnessing from two cult organizations with churches nearby; and no solicitations from The Seattle Times, a paper whose employees harrassed me with their constant appearance. So one day the doorbell rings and this cocky young thing identifies himself as being from that very paper, had read the sign on my door, and wanted to convince me to buy the paper.

I made it clear to him in black and white that this was not acceptable sales behavior.

The gall. It just blows me away. They sell trash and then want to force you to smell it.

47 posted on 07/23/2004 9:16:54 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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48 posted on 07/23/2004 9:20:00 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Pikamax
I've only read the Post a few times - take comments with a grain of salt. First, feels like elitist talking to elitist - or it's elitist slumming. Either way, unattractive. (Kerry can't pull of the everyman bit like Edwards because he's not an "everyman" type. Same for the Post. .) Second, writer write for prizes, not readers. Third, groupthink happens when diversity is limited to the superficial.

Why Can’t the Washington Post Keep Circulation Up?

49 posted on 07/23/2004 9:34:48 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: the Real fifi
the Real fifi said: "We get it but I hate it more every day. It is like reading a DNC handout.Slightly better than the NYT but only SLIGHTLY."

How can you sleep at night knowing that your subscription fees keep these liberals out of the unemployment line?

50 posted on 07/23/2004 10:00:14 PM PDT by William Tell
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