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To: Dog Gone

I would have to disagree. The Constitution and the bill of rights note the rights of all and generally tell us that our rights end where those of another person begin. If you carry a weapon for personal safety and the employer can't garauntee your safety from their parking lot to your home, that is the issue. Infringing your right to carry at this point becomes an infringement on your ability to protect yourself. And you never know when you might need to pull the trigger.

I worked for Kmart Corp as my first fulltime job. While I was working for them, my district manager took a trip up north from here and was murdered in a parking lot. You never know when it might come in handy to have something to protect yourself with. And Liberals are trying to take that ability away from us. And it goes without saying that if you take away a people's ability to defend themselves, you also remove their abiltiy to be a threat collectively should you choose to exploit and subjugate them. Liberals aren't put off by your ability to protect yourself - it's your ability to defend against their attempts to subjugate that they resent.


88 posted on 07/23/2004 8:09:10 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc
Liberals aren't put off by your ability to protect yourself - it's your ability to defend against their attempts to subjugate that they resent.

Very well stated!

90 posted on 07/23/2004 8:12:43 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset www.2asisters.org www.cantheban.net)
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To: Havoc
If the gov't ever wanted to ban guns, all they would have to do is pass more laws and edicts which result in WalMart owning everything, and then Wally World could simply ban guns by corporate edict.

And some folks would apparently be a-ok with that.

92 posted on 07/23/2004 8:14:58 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Havoc
You can disagree with me as a matter of public policy or common sense, but you can't disagree with me based on the Constitution. You don't have a 4th Amendment right to assert against me for an unreasonable search or seizure. You probably have all kinds of LAWS against that, but the Bill of Rights only restricts the Federal government and the state governments to the extent that those rights have been extended to the various states.

If I'm your employer, I can restrict the heck out of your right to free speech or to carry a weapon, or whatever. Unfortunately, that right is being eroded, and it sounds like many here support that.

107 posted on 07/23/2004 8:32:56 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Havoc

Well said


110 posted on 07/23/2004 8:35:24 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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