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Will Justice Indict Berger?
Human Events ^ | Jul 23, 2004 | NA

Posted on 07/23/2004 7:03:54 PM PDT by GailA

Will Justice Indict Berger? Posted Jul 23, 2004

If a bank teller walked out of the vault with a few hundred dollars stuffed in his pants, took the money home, and kept it until the authorities came looking for it, would you believe him if he said it was an accident?

Of course not.

Would you be surprised if the authorities discovered the teller no longer had all the money he took--and that he claimed he "accidentally discarded" some of it?

Of course not. That is the sort of far-fetched story you would expect from a thief.

And that is also why Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger could soon face a day in court.

Berger, to be sure, is no bank teller. He was National Security Adviser to President Clinton throughout Clinton's second term. In that position, he was routinely entrusted with this nation's most highly classified national security information, and was expected to use it to devise policies for keeping the United States safe from foreign enemies. But, today, Berger is looking and acting exactly like a desperate thief caught in a desperate act.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berger; dnc; doj; hanoijohn; pants; sandyberger; slickwillie; socks; theft; topsecret; trousergate; wot
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1 posted on 07/23/2004 7:03:56 PM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
Nothing will come of this.

Nothing ever does when DEMO(N)cRATS are involved.

2 posted on 07/23/2004 7:06:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: GailA

If there are no indictments, then we may safely conclude that this justice department is failing to uphold the Constitution, just as Janet Reno's was corrupt.

I am hoping for better. There was a time when there was not a doubt in my mind that this administration would do the right thing.

But when I heard about Asa Hutchinson reprimanding border guards for doing their jobs and having them reassigned, because while it's the law, it's not "policy," it was very disturbing.

Hoping for indictments. We'll see. Maybe the "New Tone" will trump the rule of law, maybe not.


3 posted on 07/23/2004 7:13:10 PM PDT by SerpentDove (November 2004: Win One for the Gipper.)
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To: GailA
You saw today that "W"'s formerly lost military records were found.

All it took was finding the correct index number to see where they had been purposefully misplaced by someone exceedingly knowledgeable in the military personnel records system.

That would be our boy Sandy Berger ~ his MOS was as a PERSONNEL CLERK in the Reserves during the Nam.

No doubt once he'd given up the index number, the deal was made. He walks.

4 posted on 07/23/2004 7:13:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GailA
The Associated Press, which broke the story July 19, reports that Berger was assigned by former President Clinton to review Clinton Administration documents to determine which ones should be turned over to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, the 9/11 Commission.

Why was a person with something to hide choosing which documents to show the commission?

Officials told AP that "National Archives employees told [FBI] agents they believed they saw Berger place documents in his clothing while reading sensitive Clinton Administration papers and that some documents were then noticed missing."

Why weren't they noticed missing before he ever left the building? I would think that checking documents out and then in before the researcher departs would be standard operation? So many unanswered questions.

5 posted on 07/23/2004 7:15:54 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
IMHO nothing will come of this. No one has the intestinal fortitude to take on big name Democrats for their obvious crimes.

There is a very slight chance that all actions will be deferred until after the election and then a wrist slap will be given. Mr Berger will never see the inside of a jail.

6 posted on 07/23/2004 7:16:46 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Sometime one has to recognize reality.)
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To: GailA

7 posted on 07/23/2004 7:21:32 PM PDT by End_Clintonism_Now (MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL CLINTON!)
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To: GailA
Will Justice Indict Berger?

Aye

8 posted on 07/23/2004 7:21:34 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Freee-dame
Why was a person with something to hide choosing which documents to show the commission?

Maybe because some members of the 'commission' also had something to hide? Politics as usual in America.....

9 posted on 07/23/2004 7:22:50 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: muawiyah
No doubt once he'd given up the index number, the deal was made. He walks.

Oh PLEASE.

A deal over finding inconsequential records of GWB's service? No way. And you can take THAT to the bank.

Besides, Berger had access to Clinton administration records, not any records conceivably stored in the vast record-keeping vaults of the National Archives.

10 posted on 07/23/2004 7:27:43 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: GailA

10 to 1, no charges forth coming, such is reserved for GG Liddy and pubbies only. Murderers like Fat Teddy always walk free and are lauded as the pretty people.


11 posted on 07/23/2004 7:33:29 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: cyncooper
Sandy Berger had access to just about everything when he was National Security Advisor to Bill Clinton. With one of Billzo's girlfriends serving as Secretary of Air Force, he would have found an open door to do anything he wished with military records in the hands of that agency!

His problem more recently was he got caught trying to revise history, and his people no longer controlled the government. The man's been negotiating with the Administration since October for a plea bargain.

It's beyond belief "W"s people don't believe Berger has some "secrets" about "W" worth trading for, and Sandy does need his liberty. His fat bottom won't last a week in prison.

If Sandy walks it's because he gave up the index number. If he doesn't that will indicate the index number came from a uniformed Clintonista who didn't want to get caught up in prosecution for messing with records.

Since the pay records seem to be the ONLY records showing "W" had performed his required military duties from May 1992 to October 1993, they are hardly inconsequental. All of his other records had been destroyed in a very organized and systemic way.

12 posted on 07/23/2004 7:36:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The man's been negotiating with the Administration since October for a plea bargain.

Wrong.

The FBI didn't even come on the scene until January. The Berger team has reportedly made overtures to Justice and been rebuffed.

Sorry, but your conspiracy theory betwixt Berger and the Bush administration is flat out baseless.

13 posted on 07/23/2004 7:40:04 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: GailA

Seems to me this is right up there on a par with Whitewater, so let's see it get Whitewater-type treatment, --- investigations, special prosecutor, jail, etc.


14 posted on 07/23/2004 7:40:28 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

this situation is different though ... justice must prevail or else the whole national security of the US is put at risk by the message any inaction in these regards would convey & portend.


15 posted on 07/23/2004 7:41:28 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Nothing will come of this.

Nothing ever does when DEMO(N)cRATS are involved.

Think of the security violations of John Deutch and Wen Ho Lee and compare to the penalties paid by your average ensign, 2nd Lt., corporal or petty officer third class -- think brig, stockade, fine, reduction in rate and rank, less than honorable discharge, maybe Leavenworth, but not these rats.

I don't know how Clinton's former CIA Director Deutch got off, but Wen Ho Lee and his lawyers and support groups played the race card.

What card will Sandy Berger play?

My guess is if this case follows the Janet Reno Waco massacre trajectory, Berger will hold a press conference and admit responsibility but avoid mention of accountability and the media will swallow it, and Congress and the Attorney General John Ashcroft and everybody else will move on. Berger's best defense strategy might be to cop a plea now before the election. If things drag out until after November 2, Ashcroft's hand would be strengthened, and Berger could get hammered, like he should be hammered. Or, maybe not (:>).

16 posted on 07/23/2004 7:42:53 PM PDT by corsair
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Burger will stuff the ingictment down his socks.


17 posted on 07/23/2004 7:44:20 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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Burger will stuff the indictment down his socks.


18 posted on 07/23/2004 7:44:31 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: cyncooper
You're sure jumping up and down on my idea awful fast. So, a minor revision would be to have Sandy negotiating with the Administration since January for a plea bargain. The rest of the program is still quite workable.

You don't really think guys like Sandy Berger get the top jobs without coin of the realm. I think he did a campaign dirty trick on "W" which consisted of messing with his military records earlier (1997) to make it look like he'd failed to perform military duty.

Now, why would the Clintonistas do that back then? One reason might well have been his RE~ELECTION as Governor of Texas in 1997 made him a serious contender for nomination as the Republican candidate for President in the 2000 election.

Sandy has probably done other blackbag and dirty-trick jobs for the Clintonistas. Could be he hadn't yet told Kerry what his job really was, but then again, maybe he did?

19 posted on 07/23/2004 7:48:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GailA

If Berger is allowed to walk away from this then
why should Jonathan Pollard, Hansen, Aldritch Aimes(sp?),
and a host of other traitors remain in prison?


20 posted on 07/23/2004 7:50:56 PM PDT by StormEye
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