Skip to comments.Why don't white people mind being stereotyped?
Posted on 07/25/2004 7:20:04 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
can't believe nearly a month after the Wayanses released "White Chicks," the only public criticism has come from a white country singer who was defending a comedian in blackface.
In the film, Marlon and Shawn Wayans play bumbling FBI agents who basically don whiteface to impersonate two rich white sisters. The movie parodies Hampton socialites, but it also perpetuates stereotypes that apply to whites of any economic level: whites can't dance, they're nonconfrontational, and the women are clueless and easy.
Blacks still face cultural stereotypes in entertainment, but picking on whites is annoyingly pervasive in entertainment geared toward African Americans. Too many young black comedians rely on the same stale white people jokes. Many black-oriented sitcoms, such as "The Parkers," have token stereotypical white people. But few whites speak out.
Okay, one. But if Ray Price is the voice of the concerned, then white people are in trouble. The 78-year-old country singer came under fire after a comedian in blackface opened his Louisiana show in July -- that's July 2004, not July 1940. Criticism from the Lafayette chapter of the NAACP prompted Price to complain about the double standard regarding the Wayans' film.
At least blacks had someone to challenge Price. Whites don't have a group such as the NAACP watching the media and speaking out against how whites are portrayed in entertainment. About the only groups speaking up for whites are white supremacists -- and their credibility is, well, you know, zero. I was recently an adviser at a summer camp for high school students. One exercise involved the high schoolers dividing into their ethnic groups. The goal was for them to define their culture, identify what makes them proud and create a performance that illustrates pride in their ethnicity.
As it happens each year, the Caucasian group had a difficult time defining their culture and finding things to be proud of.
"White Chicks" gives these students one less reason to be proud.
An NAACP for whites could speak out against "White Chicks" and provide an alternative voice to the movie critics who praised the film.
The 1986 movie "Soul Man" came under some criticism from the NAACP. It starred C. Thomas Howell as a white student who posed as a black man to win a minority scholarship to Harvard.
The NAACP's national office sent letters advising its chapters to ask members not to support the film. Benjamin Hooks, NAACP president at the time, publicly criticized the movie.
Granted, the protest of "Soul Man" wasn't a national boycott, but it was better than nothing. And nothing basically is all I've heard regarding criticism of "White Chicks."
It doesn't even take something as egregious as a white person wearing blackface to anger African Americans. In the last year, journalists criticized white reporters at two newspapers who wrote stories in hip-hop vernacular. The game Ghettopoly was pulled from youth-oriented retailer Urban Outfitters because some black clergymen and the NAACP complained it stereotyped blacks.
Yet "White Chicks" can degrade whites and rake in nearly $50 million.
I'll admit the movie has some funny scenes. The "You Got Served"-style dance-off at a night club and the big black guy singing Vanessa Carlton's "A Thousand Miles" cracked me up.
Those moments, however, don't excuse the movie's obvious stereotypes and the more underlying notion that two black men can somehow teach white females how to be better women. In the movie, the Wayans brothers pose as the Wilson sisters and teach real white socialites how to stand up for themselves against other snobby rich girls and how to dump an undeserving boyfriend.
Negative portrayals of whites in entertainment isn't as detrimental as the consistent degradation of blacks in the media. I doubt a white man lost a job at Bank of America because he couldn't dance. But the silence from whites regarding television shows, movies, comedians and music that belittle white culture sends a subversive message to Caucasian kids that they shouldn't speak up when their ethnicity is being insulted.
I want white children to take as much pride in their culture as I take in mine.
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Sticks and stones.
Apologies. The article starts with:
"White people -- rise up.
I can't believe nearly a month after the Wayanses released "White Chicks"..."
We learned from our mothers, "Sticks and stones..."
Also, I know who I am. The claims of others don't change who I am.
lol...we think alike.
Another good question: Why don't Jews mind laughing at themselves? (I know the answer, but I'm Jewish.)
You might be a redneck.... if you can get over it.
If one wants to change how people see them, then one must change themselves, from either an individual or pluralistic point of view.
In today's regime of political correctness, that isn't permitted. Whites - and all elements of traditionally White culture - are actively suppressed. If one so states, one risks being accused of being a Nazi.
I have noticed that Jews make fun of themselves all the time. There is nothing really unusual about that except they are probably better at it than most.
Can't dance? Dead on and who cares....clueless? Debate me and find out. Easy? Hit on me and find out the hard way. Non Confrontational? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA keep thinking it...and go back to all the above :-) Why don't I care? Bc the stereotypes are ludicrous.
I've always wondered what the reaction would have been if Tommy Lee Jones' character had shot an eleven year old black girl in the forehead, and explained that she was in a white neighborhood with books that were too advanced for her.
BTW, I think the reason there hasn't been that much reaction to the "White Chicks" movie is because it bombed, and also, of course, because reverse discrimination is acceptable to the media elite.
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Well, actually, that old "sticks and stones" things is NOT true. Words can AND DO hurt; it just depends on who speaks the words.
Words from some anonymous twit don't matter. Words from family/friends do hurt. Children especially.
That said, whites have better things to do than stand around and be "offended."
Humor is usually just taking the every day occurrence and exaggerating it. It contains some truth but it isn't the truth and we all recognize someone or ourselves in it and that's what makes it funny.
Perhaps the real question to be asked here is "Why is everyone ELSE so damned thin-skinned?"
Who says I don't mind?
So, would that include using white-out on your computer screen? :-)
(Ducking for cover).
It's true.....we whites haven't done much.
Except inventing the modern world, putting men on the moon, & making 80% of all medical & scientific advances over the past 500 years.
I am white, and I object to being stereotyped as "racist" because I am white.
They have more important things to do?
Perhaps the real question to be asked here is "Why is everyone ELSE so damned thin-skinned?"
There you go.
When the easily offended accuse me of being racist or whatever, I just laugh - I know I'm not racist - just outspoken - people used to be able to tell the difference.
You got it.
Whites, and others who have arrived, have other things to worry about and just shrug off the stereotypes - they have confidence in themselves.
Remember those stupid "Polak" jokes? They faded because the Poles didn't whine about the sometimes vicious tone they took and the jokes eventually faded away. Had the Poles taken on the mantle of victimhood, the jokes would still be circulating.
You can always tell when a group of people have "arrived", as in feeling comfortable about themselves. When you see them shrug off the epithets, you mutter a "Welcome Brother!" and move on.
Call me Pollyanna, but I know I'd be alot happier if folks of all colors would simply take pride in their American culture.
This crap has got to stop.
Yes, and so what. The quintessential AMERICAN (and Constitutionally correct) response is to suck it up and ignore it. ANY person should be able to call any other person any damned thing they please---the limits in law used to and should still be an overt PHYSICAL act. "Hate speech laws" are anathema.
There is a real difference between bad manners and things that are criminal acts.
Yeah, but who's counting. ;^)
The movie was done in poor taste, so it's hard to get upset over it. I haven't seen it, but it looks awful from the previews.
I'm white? Damn, I never noticed. Maybe because it isn't that important to a human being who understands what it means to be human rather than "hue-man"
I don't really care about stereotypes, except the dems view that christians are extremists. But if I did care about blacks sterotyping I would be a racist (per NAACP and unable to take the burden that has been heaped upon blacks for eternity etc. etc. It is funny to make fun of "truths" about cultures.
The few groups of 'white' people who have made any attempt to treat themselves as some sort of 'oppressed minority' have either been branded as radical extremists, racists, or given the horse-laugh.
I would be if I had the time ,but Im too bust suppressing minorities.
Well, I can only speak for myself -- I have a high level of personal confidence.
I already know that "White culture" is superior to most others.
This writer/reporter's question is not much different that that "why do they hate us" question.
There are multitudes of answers and no one is particularly more right or more wrong.
No answer to the "why do they hate us" is going to change THEIR minds. So, trying to answer is an effort in futility.
Getting offended at stereotyping is not much different. Trying to defend or respond is an effort in futility. Stereotyping is mostly a learned behavior.
Opie don't mind.
amen, amen if your white and Southern, ....forget it.
Don't worry about us. We invented civilization.
One possible reason being the white reaction pattern.(At least historically) Rarely do whites debate, discuss or express different points of view directly to the goofy groups.We talk among ourselves and one day decide what to do.
This was a good article, definately a new take on things. I appreciate this woman encouraging white people to have pride in who they are, I have always felt that was important. But I think she is over-reacting to what appears to be a very, very silly movie. And from what I've seen on the TV ads they guys look pretty creepy in the makeup, and I'm a big fan of theirs, usually.
It is not that she was black or white. Quantum Physics is too advanced for any 11 year old. Besides, it is a movie... a very funny one at that.
Boy howdy. We had corporate "training", in which we were taught why it was wrong to be critical of "Rev" Al Sharpton. When I pointed out that "Rev" Al was a certified malicious liar (by a court in New York that ruled he had to pay damages for his Tawanna Brawley rape hoax), participated in the murder of Jewish men in Brooklyn with his angry racist speeches, and simply did not deserve our respect, I was hooted down as a racist (I'm white).
I pointed out that the repression of my speech rights by the those who called me racist was hypocritical and scary. That won no argument, but I had made my point, and only lost one night's sleep over it wondering if I could continue to work where I do. The incident has faded away, though the forces of liberofascism that want to exempt racial racketeering from criticism are still there.
This indeed is an example of that. The schools have deprived white children of a knowledge of the tremendous contributions northern European culture made to our society. We are made to feel guilty about the accomplishments, as if they could not have been made unless upon the backs of persons of color, which is, of course, racist itself, and grossly untrue.
Very well said.
Now you've done it. As an Indian who finds the characterization of "Apu" on the Simpsons to be one of the funnier things on television, I suppose I'm going to have to go report to the nearest thought evaluation center for re-education.
In some ways, the lack of furor over this movie may represent another undercurrent in society:
After decades of watching blacks allowing themselves to be represented by ebonics, rap music, the political views of organizations like the NAACP, and a vast collection of racially separatist organizations...perhaps that segment of society has become such a laughing stock to the rest of society that nobody really even cares.