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Doctors getting out of baby business because of high insurance
CBS 2 Chicago ^ | July 25, 2004 | AP

Posted on 07/25/2004 5:06:05 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) Many Indiana obstetricians say medical malpractice insurance costs are becoming too high to stay in business, even though Indiana has among the lowest rates in the nation.

Dr. Lynda Smirz stopped delivering babies this month because she could not afford the increase in medical malpractice insurance costs.

A state fund created to keep malpractice rates low was almost depleted before the state Department of Insurance ordered a 73 percent increase for all physicians.

Jim McIntire, an attorney for the state medical association, says some doctors were on such tight budgets that the increase pushed them over the edge.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; democrats; healthcare; johnedwards; kerry2004; kerryedwards; malpractice; tortreform; triallawyers
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1 posted on 07/25/2004 5:06:08 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Opening new market for midwives...
Will they have to carry insurance too ?


2 posted on 07/25/2004 5:16:19 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

I'm sure "high health care costs" will be a oft mentioned phrase at the DNC this week. And to think, the Dems could really do something about that, but will they forego those campaign contributions from trial lawyers? Naahhhhh!


3 posted on 07/25/2004 5:20:44 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
I heard a neurosurgeon on Laura Ingraham talk radio last night.

I think he said that every third operation pays for his malpractice insurance premium, which went up from $60,000/year to $120,000/year, (in one year?) and he's never been sued.

$120,000/yr premium for a spotless record.

He said that his colleagues are loath to do surgery on cerebral hemorrhages, because of the high rate of lawsuits connected with that operation.

They also have started to refuse emergency room work.
4 posted on 07/25/2004 5:25:56 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

We should start a class-action lawsuit against lawyers.


5 posted on 07/25/2004 5:27:25 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Just as a matter of interest. How many malpractice lawsuits succeed, and on what basis do they succeed?
6 posted on 07/25/2004 5:30:28 PM PDT by Happygal (Kerry has a chin that could chop cabbage in a glass!)
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I'm not sure, but usually most cases especially with insurance cases are settled out of court since it costs thousands of dollars to defend them even if the doctor is innocent.

It's sometimes cheaper to pay up instead of fighting them and winning, let alone losing.

I'm not familiar with malpractice, but the legal bills for the CCW fight in Michigan (Constitutional Law attorney) for example were about $100,000 (District, Appeals, and Supreme Court Fight) I think the top attorney charged $500 an hour(Supreme Court level). We won though.

7 posted on 07/25/2004 5:37:09 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If you want a little peace, sometimes you gotta fight" - Sammy Hagar)
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To: traumer
Oh yessirree, you want nothing but a midwife there when your baby comes out with meconium aspiration. Yup, she'll know just what to do: run like hell for the emergency room and hope the kid doesn't strangle to death on the way there.

Anyone who has a baby without an experienced neonatologist present or nearby is utterly insane.

Indiana should just pass a comprehensive tort reform right now and end the stupidity.

8 posted on 07/25/2004 5:40:46 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
This is a problem that the leftists will fight tooth and nail NOT to solve, unless they get their socialized medicine. Then it will be one of the first cost reduction measure that will implemented. Right after they ditch semi-private rooms in favor of wards.
9 posted on 07/25/2004 5:41:13 PM PDT by beef ("Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth.")
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To: beef
We should start a class-action lawsuit against lawyers.

Or we could follow up on Ann Coulter's idea of raising the tax-rate on contigency fees to 90%. That's one tax increase I support!

10 posted on 07/25/2004 5:53:10 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Regulator

It's somewhat of a catch-22 situation. Midwives do less interventions, thus labor and delivery is generally lower stress on both mother and baby. Stress and multiple interventions, esp. administration of pitocin results in more complications. There have been a number of studies in this area. Having been an NICU nurse for 12 years, somewhere there needs to be a happy medium of knowing when intervention is necessary and having the skills/equipment needed. Sadly, doctors tend to over react and midwives under react. Added to this mix is the insurance company pressure to do every intervention conceivable so that in the event of a suit they can show they did everything they could. Conversely, the expections on the midwife are to do the least intervention possible. And sometimes, despite doing all the right stuff, the outcome is still bad, but the doctor or midwife gets sued anyway. My personal opinion is that the insurance companies shouldn't be dictating a doctors practice and medical decisions.


11 posted on 07/25/2004 6:03:00 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek Chick Parachutist Over Phorty)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

bump


12 posted on 07/25/2004 6:05:58 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Thank you, John Edwards.


13 posted on 07/25/2004 6:20:50 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: Regulator
Oh yessirree, you want nothing but a midwife there when your baby comes out with meconium aspiration.

I don't know, but I just get the feeling that it is the insurance companies or the loonie left behind it. Its sounds a bit tin-foil hat, I know,but I think there is a campaign against doctors. Look how they bad mouth doctors and even sometimes make them the bad guys in movies ala John Q. Remember that survey that came out last fall that said that nurses were more trusted than doctors? I know I don't trust nurses to diagnose me, that's for sure. They see the doctors as middle men and want to take them out of the process to cut costs. Doctors will only be needed for "extreme" cases. They start with underming their authority, with midwives and tell us its so much better to do it that way. Sheesh. There are people right now who are trying to make it legal for patients to order their own diagnostic tests instead of going through the doctor.

14 posted on 07/25/2004 6:42:40 PM PDT by virgil
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Eesh. I had a baby with meconium in the fluid and shoulder dystocia. The midwife did a superb job. Granted it was a hospital birth and she called in the neonatal team when she saw the meconium and they snatched him the second he came out - but if it had just been her I bet she still would have done a superb job.

Mrs VS


15 posted on 07/25/2004 7:25:42 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Thanks, John Edwards....


16 posted on 07/25/2004 7:27:09 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Ronald Reagan - Greatest President of the 20th Century.)
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To: SuziQ
"Thank you, John Edwards."

First let me say, I will not be voting for Kerry/Edwards.

With that being said, I think it is more accurate to say,

Thanks fellow citizens on the juries who believe the nonsense that trial lawyers such a John Edwards spew and find the doctors liable for damages.

Remember, it is not the trial lawyer that makes the decision.

The trial lawyer only presents one side of the case.

It has been the idiots on the juries that are responsible for the increase in liability insurance premiums.

17 posted on 07/25/2004 7:28:14 PM PDT by tahiti
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But wait a minute. She may have quit the baby delivering practice too soon. Doesn't she know that John Kerry and John Edwards are about to get elected and that relief is in sight?

Did Junk Science Make John Edwards Rich
By Marc Morano - CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer

Edwards became one of America's wealthiest trial lawyers by winning record jury verdicts and settlements in cases alleging that the botched treatment of women in labor and their deliveries caused infants to develop cerebral palsy, a brain disorder that causes motor function impairment and lifelong disability.

18 posted on 07/25/2004 7:34:29 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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Health care will remain unaffordable until the unlimited plaintiffs' awards are ended.


19 posted on 07/25/2004 7:55:26 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated. Thank you, President Bush.)
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To: tahiti; pops88

Medical malpractice cases should be channeled through a special court system, with juries comprised exclusively of physicians in the relevant area of specialization. That would quickly end the problem of the clueless, emotion-driven juries, and the careers of dramatic lying liability lawyers like Edwards. Physicians should all go on strike until this system is the law of the land.

The jury system was never intended to put simple-minded ignorant people in charge of second guessing the judgement of highly trained professional. People accused of wrongdoing are supposed to be tried by a jury of their PEERS. Some high school dropout who doesn't know the difference between a vein and an artery is most certainly not the peer of an obstetrician or neurosurgeon.


20 posted on 07/25/2004 7:56:18 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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