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Eating our own...Time to make a new start in Free Republic.
7-26-04 | Bob J

Posted on 07/26/2004 7:41:11 PM PDT by Bob J

The last few months I've seen an increasing trend for FReepers to start going for each others jugular. Sometimes we forget (I've certainly done it myself) that in the grand scheme of things, we are on the same team. We may disagree on priorities or how far we are willing to go, but we have enough enemy in the left without creating more amongst ourselves. We can disagree but be civil to each other. We can debate nuance, but not believe that our personal positions are more important than the health of the whole. Let's argue vigorously but remind ourselves the guy whose trachia we are ripping out today may be sitting next to us in a foxhole tommorrow.

I'm going to propose that we all make a new start. Let's put all past differences behind us and resolve to band together and fight the good fight, the elimination of liberalism as a significant culturual influence in America...and see that to its end in our lifetimes.

If you agree, please post your thoughts and ping your lists and your friends to this thread.


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To: Howlin

ROFL!!! Howlin, that's one of my biggest pet-peeves -- the "Already Posted Here" nazis. Your humor is subtle but hilarious!


751 posted on 07/27/2004 11:03:44 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: Bob J

?


752 posted on 07/27/2004 11:07:40 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: MarkL
How about "I hate you, and everyone who looks like you!" lol!

"...and the dog you rode in on!"

753 posted on 07/27/2004 11:08:20 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: Bob J
Was that an opus?


754 posted on 07/27/2004 11:09:19 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Bob J

Most of the enemies I have on this forum are ones who I consider to be my enemies because they call me a Marxist, or tell me to go to DU, if I so much as slightly critique the current Center Right lukewarm GOP orthodoxy. The particular hot buttons which seem to invite such withering attacks appear to be, in no particular order, any critique of what I consider to be a naive, globalist, economism which is reputed to trump most geopolitics, any critique of currently planned continuing overall military drawdown (particularly drawdown of strategic forces), any critique of anti nationalist, border busting corporations, or pretty much anything which questions the main planks of the quasi liberal, Center Right world view. It is pretty amazing to me, that people far to the left of me would be telling me I don't belong here. To cut to the chase, in order to stop the back biting, we must marginalize or at least gain better behavior from the Leftist factions here instead allowing them to vigorously assail us Rightists. Rightists are not the problem, we are the solution.


755 posted on 07/27/2004 11:21:14 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: AppyPappy

I'm not sure about that. Seems like they get a great deal of support here on the Forum. They are constantly at the forefront of FR related activism and always get the kudos they deserve.


756 posted on 07/27/2004 11:22:34 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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To: A Navy Vet

I don't know. Kristinn has been in a few scrapes with PTB.


757 posted on 07/27/2004 11:28:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: My2Cents

People reply with the "already posted" messages so the person will know why their articles was pulled. I've posted a few duplicate articles and I never got upset when someone pointed it out.


758 posted on 07/27/2004 11:30:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: finnman69; Trekker; areafiftyone; Senator Pardek; Klingon; spock; Captain Kirk; Thanos; ...
Ugly Klingon:

What do you mean: "I'm too hideous to be in your all human fashion show?" I should vaporize you for that remark! AAAARRGGHH! I am ten times better looking than Thanos!

759 posted on 07/27/2004 11:37:37 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Why do people keep calling me a bastard?)
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To: SandyInSeattle; Opus; Wildcat; Tabi Katz; PJ-Comix; Sofa King; pookie18; jigsaw
That dude with the "Outland" and "Bloom County" strips on his profile page should really be part of this discussion, don't ya think?
760 posted on 07/27/2004 11:40:52 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Why do people keep calling me a bastard?)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
That dude with the "Outland" and "Bloom County" strips on his profile page should really be part of this discussion, don't ya think?

Absolutely. I've heard several quasi-opi on this thread.

761 posted on 07/27/2004 11:43:24 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks MeekOneGOP. BTT for later reading.


762 posted on 07/27/2004 11:44:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The john/johns and the RAT party have done a flip flop this week, no Bush bashing.)
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To: AppyPappy

I don't mind the Mods pulling a post I've placed up if it's a duplicate. That's a service, actually. What bugs me is the person who points out the redundancy (without a link to the previous thread) as if the rest of us spend 24 hours a day on FR and should have caught it the first time.


763 posted on 07/27/2004 11:44:45 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: Bob J
Kidding aside, there are certain topics that draw certain posters, and I avoid them like the plague. If you are not drinking their kool-aid and post a differing viewpoint you are summarily leaped on by all and personally attacked. It's certain posters, who inhabit certain topics, that I refuse to even acknowledge.

There's one thread ongoing right now that I have an opinion on but I'm not going to go near, because the posters so far are like rabid dogs. And I haven't had my shots.

764 posted on 07/27/2004 11:47:30 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle; muawiyah; Evil; The Scourge of Yazid
They're everywhere!

MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

765 posted on 07/27/2004 11:47:52 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Why do people keep calling me a bastard?)
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To: My2Cents
as if the rest of us spend 24 hours a day on FR

You don't?!

766 posted on 07/27/2004 11:49:56 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: cyborg

I am NOT a horny old goat!

I don't have enough seniority.


767 posted on 07/27/2004 12:06:08 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Bob J
Bob J---Since Nov 28, 1997

Lousy newbie!

768 posted on 07/27/2004 12:06:55 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Slings and Arrows

horny young goat


769 posted on 07/27/2004 12:08:40 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: The Libertarian Dude
I nominate cinFLA to make the first move.


LOL! Don't let cinFLA get to you Libertarian Dude. Cindy has a grudge that goes back to her Newsmax days. She claims to be a guy, but is really a feminazi. She knows that Gore would have won the election if Libertarians would have voted for him instead of Bush. She just wants to drive you out of the Conservative camp.

Whatch the flame she'll deliver me after this post. Great fun!!!
770 posted on 07/27/2004 12:10:05 PM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: Bob J

~~ahhh~~
~sniffle~

Group hug guys!
(but if someone starts singin' Kum Ba Yah -- I will hurt them).


771 posted on 07/27/2004 12:10:12 PM PDT by najida (Without pack-rats, there wouldn't be any antiques.)
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To: cyborg

Here's looking at you, kid.


772 posted on 07/27/2004 12:11:45 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

;-)


773 posted on 07/27/2004 12:12:29 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Chieftain; Bob J

Re.: "Bob wants to sing Kumbaya..."..

I composed some "new" and decidedly un-PC lyrics for that old Folk-ditty some years ago. Being a Conservative "Folkie" can be interesting!

It does my heart good to see this issue being dealt with, BTW; better late than never.

Here's hoping (and praying, if you don't mind) that this refreshing Spirit of camaraderie and relational maturity endures and abides. This is our "Community" after all, and civility & mutual respect, I opine, are the interwoven golden fibers that hold it together and lend it strength and integrity.

Blessings galore, all.


774 posted on 07/27/2004 12:13:13 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque ("Bone an' bred in de margins, Bre'r Fox!")
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To: SeattleNeedsHelp

Considering that the musical scale runs from A to G#, what the fresh h*ll...erm, would you please be so kind as to enlighten me as to what notes an H minor chord contains?


775 posted on 07/27/2004 12:14:10 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: jigsaw; ovrtaxt
I think the 'troll hunters' are a bit quick to jump on new people too.

Agreed!

VK/RKBA ALERT...oh, never mind.

777 posted on 07/27/2004 12:22:00 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I think the 'troll hunters' are a bit quick to jump on new people too.

Only silly new people who can't articulate a coherent thought.

778 posted on 07/27/2004 12:27:47 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Slings and Arrows

AAAhh!; You left out Ab! };^{)~

"H Minor"; Isn't that in the Cachophonic Modality?

Do you prefer the Aeolian or the Dorian mode? I'm rather fond of the Paleolithic, myself. (Banging rocks together...)


779 posted on 07/27/2004 12:30:31 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque ("Bone an' bred in de margins, Bre'r Fox!")
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To: SandyInSeattle
Only silly new people who can't articulate a coherent thought.

Them's good eatin'!!!

780 posted on 07/27/2004 12:32:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Uncle Jaque
AAAhh!; You left out Ab! };^{)~

(:P]

H Minor"; Isn't that in the Cachophonic Modality?

I looked it up - the notes are H Jb L.

Do you prefer the Aeolian or the Dorian mode? I'm rather fond of the Paleolithic, myself. (Banging rocks together...)

I tend to favor the Piala.

What, you never heard of Piala Mode?

781 posted on 07/27/2004 12:37:42 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Bob J; conspiratoristo; Las Vegas Dave
Who are you?? What are you doing here, and why did you post this???

Oh...that "Bob J"! ;)

(*ping* to con and Dave, in case you aren't already here somewhere...LOL!)

782 posted on 07/27/2004 12:38:42 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: AppyPappy

Yes, I know what and who you're referring to, but they still get the acknowledgment and praise they deserve. They are hardly a step child around here.


783 posted on 07/27/2004 12:42:38 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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To: A Navy Vet; AppyPappy; Bob J; kristinn; Angelwood; Clinton's a liar; tgslTakoma
There is an unfortunate rift that developed between some East and West Coast FReepers, which resulted in the departure of Clinton's a liar (who introduced me to FR.com via a call to Rush Limbaugh years ago). I say this is unfortunate because I like and respect both parties to the dispute, and think both sides' hearts are in the right place, but they disagree on how we accomplish our objectives. It is my humble opinion that these differences would have been manageable were the disputees not on opposite sides of the continent, but I think there are still some frayed nerves in the debate.

I commend BobJ on creating this thread in the first place becuz I think he realizes that Intra-Party animosities detract from the long-term productivity of this Forum and its many offshoot organizations.

FReegards...MUD

784 posted on 07/27/2004 12:44:30 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

No. I'm only here 23 hours a day. The one hour I miss is always the hour where the best threads are posted.


785 posted on 07/27/2004 12:45:58 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: PJ-Comix; Slings and Arrows; cyborg
"Right's All 'Bout TRUTH!!"
(To be sung to the Who's "Gettin' In Tune")

Right's seekin' yer Vote 'cuz the LeftWing's Hell!!
Sosh'list Whore'd Right's slayin'...
Right shall defend our hard-earned FReedoms!!
DemRATS are just evil Traitors!!

Folks, Right's 'bout Truth...Righteous Truth!!
Right's 'bout Truth...now, Right's gonna prove...
DemRATS're FOOLS!!
Fight DemRAT FOOLS!!
Smite Bill Klintoon!!

Righteous throng is inspired, as Reagan would say...
"We don't want Big Guv'ment!!"
And when we hear all Left's LIES, DemRATS love Tyranny...
Left loathes self-empowerment!!

Right's FReepin' fer Truth...Right's 'bout Truth!!
Fight fer Truth...the Right's all 'bout Truth!!
RightWing's 'bout Truth!! (RightWing's 'bout Truth)
RightWing is Good!! (RightWing is Good)
Right's all 'bout Truth!!

Fight 'til Guv'ment's shackles are shed...
We're FReepin' 'til Lib'ralism's dead!!
Mudboy's bangin' on his new piano...
Right's FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow)
FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow)
Yeah, Right's FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors)

Right's seekin' yer Vote 'cuz the LeftWing's Hell...
And RATS' Power is reelin'!!
We're 'bout Liberty...reject fear from your hearts...
FReedom is appealing!!

Right's FReepin' fer Truth...Right's 'bout Truth!!
Fight fer Truth...the Right's all 'bout Truth!!
RightWing's 'bout Truth!! (RightWing's 'bout Truth)
RightWing is Good!! (RightWing is Good)
Right's all 'bout Truth!!

Nation, we're YOU...Reject RATS' fools!!
Nation, need you...Reject Left's Fools!!...
Nation, we're YOU!!

Fight 'til Guv'ment's shackles are shed...
We're FReepin' 'til Lib'ralism's dead!!
Mudboy's bangin' on his new piano...
Right's FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow)
FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow)
Yeah, Right's FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors)

Mudboy Slim

786 posted on 07/27/2004 12:47:02 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Bob J

You either are for what is right on the right, that means help elect George W over the Kerry/Edwards Commie ticket, or my guantlet will be cast on the round table in the smoking backroom.

Ops4 God BLess America!


787 posted on 07/27/2004 12:51:25 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: Bob J
"Hye , I let TLB do TWO RadioFR shows. He's not a really a bad guy. Too many times we let our emotions rule our facade."

I must have missed this last night during my fun with the Kookers. Sooooo, are you kidding me? THE most prolific posting anti-Freeper on the Net and you work with him? WTF? The guy spends his life putting down ALL things Free Republic and you give him air time on RFR? Geeze, I am at a loss...

788 posted on 07/27/2004 12:55:19 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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To: A Navy Vet

He was on RFR before he left Free Republic.


789 posted on 07/27/2004 12:58:41 PM PDT by diotima (She's in parties. It's in the can.)
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To: Mudboy Slim

I don't think it's a West Coast/East Coast thing. I think it is the desire for some to fill a vacuum. Sometimes they fill one that doesn't exist and that causes trouble.

The OG's have always fought for the image of "respectability" which IMHO is impossible to reach. We will never get any love publically because we are a forum. Forums cannot tightly control what is said because they are forums. The only thing you can do is control who SEES what gets said and I haven't seen any indications that is a desire. In the meantime, I think we overreact in order to reach for that "respectability" ghost.

Two things keep us in the loop: Faster news dissemination and the DC Chapter activities. We were first/best in the cycle on things like Columbine and 9/11. It sure beats flipping channels.


790 posted on 07/27/2004 1:07:48 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: My2Cents
as if the rest of us spend 24 hours a day on FR and should have caught it the first time

That's why you do a search. Actually, the software should do it for you but there ya go....

791 posted on 07/27/2004 1:09:08 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
"I don't think it's a West Coast/East Coast thing..."

In reality, I believe this is true...my point was that the lack of face-to-face communication has lead to the lack of understanding between the two sides. The East/West Rivalry is a little too reminiscent of the HipHop wars...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

792 posted on 07/27/2004 1:18:49 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, you didn't go and I'm so glad.I hope whatever is going on will work out okay for you and yours.I've been around long enough to know you a little. Your posts and mental energy have been an inspiration towards impecable behavior and observance of the news before us.Times require even a great fighter to take a leave.We don't want you to get burned out.The inspiration you gave has helped new younger pool of Patriots get their thoughts gelled correctly and take up the slack.I've been banned before for something so my new identity means nothing but I know you and I almost love you.May GOD bless you, this worthy person.


793 posted on 07/27/2004 1:23:45 PM PDT by noodler
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To: A Navy Vet; TLBSHOW; diotima
"The guy spends his life putting down ALL things Free Republic and you give him air time on RFR? Geeze, I am at a loss..."

Todd's an interesting character and I don't pretend to understand some of the more ridiculous posts to emanate from his 'puter, but his infamous harangues about everything FR.com-related are becoming less and less apparent over on LP.org. I usedta hang out at the BikerBar every once in awhile just to point out TLB's--and other LPosters'--inaccuracies in their posts, but they've really decreased in volume lately and I just noticed TLB's posted a thread about how the dismal viewership ratings last night point to a huge landslide loss fer the DemonRATS come November.

FReegards...MUD

794 posted on 07/27/2004 1:25:19 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Bob J
Well, after some of the responses, it should be clear that there are certain individuals who aren't interested at all in rational discussion - in fact, they're absolutely terrified of it. They're afraid that someone might actually be convinced of a position not their own, so they do every thing they can to disrupt it, while putting out lame justifications for their behavior.

Gentle persuasion is obviously going to be ineffective with these losers, so I suggest a more forceful approach: Let there be a feature whereby freepers can make comments about other freepers, and on each poster's home page there would be a link to all the comments made about him, listed in random order. Then anyone reading a discussion will be able to see right away the nature of the person they're looking at, and judge his imbecilic comments accordingly.

795 posted on 07/27/2004 1:25:21 PM PDT by inquest (Judges are given the power to decide cases, not to decide law)
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To: Bob J

I will only say I agree with you 100%. I will decline to comment any further.


796 posted on 07/27/2004 1:31:58 PM PDT by ChevyZ28 ( For I know the thoughts I have for you says the Lord, thoughts of peace, not of evil.. Jer. 29:11)
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To: Bob J

I could not agree more Bob. I am still a newbie to FR, and as far as I know, I haven't made any enemies, although I wouldn't doubt they are out there. The point you make here rings loud and clear as the truth does. We have a serious common enemy to bring down here. An enemy with allies all around us. This is real life. It's the good/evil struggle we all read about in books like the Lord of The Rings (if you haven't read it, you should :) ) and how we always pictured ourselves in the role of a character like Frodo Baggins. Little guy saves his world with the help of valiant friends along the way. Those friends had their differences too, but put them aside in order to defeat a common foe. It is the only way to win.


797 posted on 07/27/2004 1:33:01 PM PDT by joedownthestreet
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To: Mudboy Slim

I don't really care what other people do on other forums, so if TLBSHOW wants to post (fill in the blank)on LP more power to him. The internet is a big place.

I'm not sure if it is a valuable use of one's time to chronicle the posts on FR, especially in light of his concern for the country, but it is his time to spend.


798 posted on 07/27/2004 1:34:09 PM PDT by diotima (She's in parties. It's in the can.)
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To: jmc813; robertpaulsen
"Did you know that Ronald Reagan called libertarianism the heart and soul of conservatism?"

Did you not just get rebuked by another user for taking out of context Reagan quotes and trying to use them for a bassackwards, loserdopian purpose?

What? Couldn't find anything afte roaming through my ftp space? ~grin~

Ronald Reagan:
"Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals."

~Grin~


799 posted on 07/27/2004 1:43:34 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: diotima
"He was on RFR before he left Free Republic."

Okay, and your point is? I just no longer get you guys.

800 posted on 07/27/2004 1:46:40 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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