Eating our own...Time to make a new start in Free Republic.

7-26-04 | Bob J

[Bob J]

The last few months I've seen an increasing trend for FReepers to start going for each others jugular. Sometimes we forget (I've certainly done it myself) that in the grand scheme of things, we are on the same team. We may disagree on priorities or how far we are willing to go, but we have enough enemy in the left without creating more amongst ourselves. We can disagree but be civil to each other. We can debate nuance, but not believe that our personal positions are more important than the health of the whole. Let's argue vigorously but remind ourselves the guy whose trachia we are ripping out today may be sitting next to us in a foxhole tommorrow.

I'm going to propose that we all make a new start. Let's put all past differences behind us and resolve to band together and fight the good fight, the elimination of liberalism as a significant culturual influence in America...and see that to its end in our lifetimes.

If you agree, please post your thoughts and ping your lists and your friends to this thread.

[Slings and Arrows]

AAAhh!; You left out Ab! };^{)~

(:P]

H Minor"; Isn't that in the Cachophonic Modality?

I looked it up - the notes are H Jb L.

Do you prefer the Aeolian or the Dorian mode? I'm rather fond of the Paleolithic, myself. (Banging rocks together...)

I tend to favor the Piala.

What, you never heard of Piala Mode?

[88keys]

Who are you?? What are you doing here, and why did you post this???

Oh...that "Bob J"! ;)

(*ping* to con and Dave, in case you aren't already here somewhere...LOL!)

[A Navy Vet]

Yes, I know what and who you're referring to, but they still get the acknowledgment and praise they deserve. They are hardly a step child around here.

[Mudboy Slim]

There is an unfortunate rift that developed between some East and West Coast FReepers, which resulted in the departure of Clinton's a liar (who introduced me to FR.com via a call to Rush Limbaugh years ago). I say this is unfortunate because I like and respect both parties to the dispute, and think both sides' hearts are in the right place, but they disagree on how we accomplish our objectives. It is my humble opinion that these differences would have been manageable were the disputees not on opposite sides of the continent, but I think there are still some frayed nerves in the debate.

I commend BobJ on creating this thread in the first place becuz I think he realizes that Intra-Party animosities detract from the long-term productivity of this Forum and its many offshoot organizations.

FReegards...MUD

[My2Cents]

No. I'm only here 23 hours a day. The one hour I miss is always the hour where the best threads are posted.

[Mudboy Slim]

"Right's All 'Bout TRUTH!!"
(To be sung to the Who's "Gettin' In Tune")

Right's seekin' yer Vote 'cuz the LeftWing's Hell!!
Sosh'list Whore'd Right's slayin'...
Right shall defend our hard-earned FReedoms!!
DemRATS are just evil Traitors!!

Folks, Right's 'bout Truth...Righteous Truth!!
Right's 'bout Truth...now, Right's gonna prove...
DemRATS're FOOLS!!
Fight DemRAT FOOLS!!
Smite Bill Klintoon!!

Righteous throng is inspired, as Reagan would say...
"We don't want Big Guv'ment!!"
And when we hear all Left's LIES, DemRATS love Tyranny...
Left loathes self-empowerment!!

Right's FReepin' fer Truth...Right's 'bout Truth!!
Fight fer Truth...the Right's all 'bout Truth!!
RightWing's 'bout Truth!! (RightWing's 'bout Truth)
RightWing is Good!! (RightWing is Good)
Right's all 'bout Truth!!

Fight 'til Guv'ment's shackles are shed...
We're FReepin' 'til Lib'ralism's dead!!
Mudboy's bangin' on his new piano...
Right's FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow)
FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow)
Yeah, Right's FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors)

Right's seekin' yer Vote 'cuz the LeftWing's Hell...
And RATS' Power is reelin'!!
We're 'bout Liberty...reject fear from your hearts...
FReedom is appealing!!

Right's FReepin' fer Truth...Right's 'bout Truth!!
Fight fer Truth...the Right's all 'bout Truth!!
RightWing's 'bout Truth!! (RightWing's 'bout Truth)
RightWing is Good!! (RightWing is Good)
Right's all 'bout Truth!!

Nation, we're YOU...Reject RATS' fools!!
Nation, need you...Reject Left's Fools!!...
Nation, we're YOU!!

Fight 'til Guv'ment's shackles are shed...
We're FReepin' 'til Lib'ralism's dead!!
Mudboy's bangin' on his new piano...
Right's FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth and we shan't be mellow)
FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz RATS' vision's narrow)
Yeah, Right's FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors!!
(FReepin' fer Truth 'cuz the Left loves Traitors)

Mudboy Slim

[OPS4]

You either are for what is right on the right, that means help elect George W over the Kerry/Edwards Commie ticket, or my guantlet will be cast on the round table in the smoking backroom.

Ops4 God BLess America!

[A Navy Vet]

"Hye , I let TLB do TWO RadioFR shows. He's not a really a bad guy. Too many times we let our emotions rule our facade."

I must have missed this last night during my fun with the Kookers. Sooooo, are you kidding me? THE most prolific posting anti-Freeper on the Net and you work with him? WTF? The guy spends his life putting down ALL things Free Republic and you give him air time on RFR? Geeze, I am at a loss...

[diotima]

He was on RFR before he left Free Republic.

[AppyPappy]

I don't think it's a West Coast/East Coast thing. I think it is the desire for some to fill a vacuum. Sometimes they fill one that doesn't exist and that causes trouble.

The OG's have always fought for the image of "respectability" which IMHO is impossible to reach. We will never get any love publically because we are a forum. Forums cannot tightly control what is said because they are forums. The only thing you can do is control who SEES what gets said and I haven't seen any indications that is a desire. In the meantime, I think we overreact in order to reach for that "respectability" ghost.

Two things keep us in the loop: Faster news dissemination and the DC Chapter activities. We were first/best in the cycle on things like Columbine and 9/11. It sure beats flipping channels.

[AppyPappy]

as if the rest of us spend 24 hours a day on FR and should have caught it the first time

That's why you do a search. Actually, the software should do it for you but there ya go....

[Mudboy Slim]

"I don't think it's a West Coast/East Coast thing..."

In reality, I believe this is true...my point was that the lack of face-to-face communication has lead to the lack of understanding between the two sides. The East/West Rivalry is a little too reminiscent of the HipHop wars...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

[noodler]

Laz, you didn't go and I'm so glad.I hope whatever is going on will work out okay for you and yours.I've been around long enough to know you a little. Your posts and mental energy have been an inspiration towards impecable behavior and observance of the news before us.Times require even a great fighter to take a leave.We don't want you to get burned out.The inspiration you gave has helped new younger pool of Patriots get their thoughts gelled correctly and take up the slack.I've been banned before for something so my new identity means nothing but I know you and I almost love you.May GOD bless you, this worthy person.

[Mudboy Slim]

"The guy spends his life putting down ALL things Free Republic and you give him air time on RFR? Geeze, I am at a loss..."

Todd's an interesting character and I don't pretend to understand some of the more ridiculous posts to emanate from his 'puter, but his infamous harangues about everything FR.com-related are becoming less and less apparent over on LP.org. I usedta hang out at the BikerBar every once in awhile just to point out TLB's--and other LPosters'--inaccuracies in their posts, but they've really decreased in volume lately and I just noticed TLB's posted a thread about how the dismal viewership ratings last night point to a huge landslide loss fer the DemonRATS come November.

FReegards...MUD

[inquest]

Well, after some of the responses, it should be clear that there are certain individuals who aren't interested at all in rational discussion - in fact, they're absolutely terrified of it. They're afraid that someone might actually be convinced of a position not their own, so they do every thing they can to disrupt it, while putting out lame justifications for their behavior.

Gentle persuasion is obviously going to be ineffective with these losers, so I suggest a more forceful approach: Let there be a feature whereby freepers can make comments about other freepers, and on each poster's home page there would be a link to all the comments made about him, listed in random order. Then anyone reading a discussion will be able to see right away the nature of the person they're looking at, and judge his imbecilic comments accordingly.

[ChevyZ28]

I will only say I agree with you 100%. I will decline to comment any further.

[joedownthestreet]

I could not agree more Bob. I am still a newbie to FR, and as far as I know, I haven't made any enemies, although I wouldn't doubt they are out there. The point you make here rings loud and clear as the truth does. We have a serious common enemy to bring down here. An enemy with allies all around us. This is real life. It's the good/evil struggle we all read about in books like the Lord of The Rings (if you haven't read it, you should :) ) and how we always pictured ourselves in the role of a character like Frodo Baggins. Little guy saves his world with the help of valiant friends along the way. Those friends had their differences too, but put them aside in order to defeat a common foe. It is the only way to win.

[diotima]

I don't really care what other people do on other forums, so if TLBSHOW wants to post (fill in the blank)on LP more power to him. The internet is a big place.

I'm not sure if it is a valuable use of one's time to chronicle the posts on FR, especially in light of his concern for the country, but it is his time to spend.

[VaBthang4]

"Did you know that Ronald Reagan called libertarianism the heart and soul of conservatism?"

Did you not just get rebuked by another user for taking out of context Reagan quotes and trying to use them for a bassackwards, loserdopian purpose?

What? Couldn't find anything afte roaming through my ftp space? ~grin~

Ronald Reagan:
"Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals."

~Grin~

[A Navy Vet]

"He was on RFR before he left Free Republic."

Okay, and your point is? I just no longer get you guys.