Eating our own...Time to make a new start in Free Republic.

7-26-04 | Bob J

[Bob J]

The last few months I've seen an increasing trend for FReepers to start going for each others jugular. Sometimes we forget (I've certainly done it myself) that in the grand scheme of things, we are on the same team. We may disagree on priorities or how far we are willing to go, but we have enough enemy in the left without creating more amongst ourselves. We can disagree but be civil to each other. We can debate nuance, but not believe that our personal positions are more important than the health of the whole. Let's argue vigorously but remind ourselves the guy whose trachia we are ripping out today may be sitting next to us in a foxhole tommorrow.

I'm going to propose that we all make a new start. Let's put all past differences behind us and resolve to band together and fight the good fight, the elimination of liberalism as a significant culturual influence in America...and see that to its end in our lifetimes.

If you agree, please post your thoughts and ping your lists and your friends to this thread.

[cinFLA]

I will admit, however, part of the problem is due to the LP platform. It does need tweaking.

How do you 'tweak':

Same sex / any sex marriage
Open borders
Legalized drugs
End of war on terrorism?

[cinFLA]

I will admit, however, part of the problem is due to the LP platform. It does need tweaking.

How do you 'tweak':

Same sex / any sex marriage
Open borders
Legalized drugs
End of war on terrorism?

[Bob J]

I'm the patron saint of lost causes...heheh.

[searchandrecovery]

I give up - why was this post yanked? I thought the keywords were destroyed by the maint. Apparently not. What's up?

[ApesForEvolution]

When the door was WIDE OPEN for a 3rd Party (GHWB's failed incumbancy bid for POTUS), big groups of people that I know, including myself, looked high and low and the sorry GOP was all we had...and we know how that decade went. What we got was a worthless 'Reform' Party and now a 'Green' Party and other odds and ends that can't quite seem to get a clue.

[ApesForEvolution]

So you're voting for Kerry, or Nader? You said 'those of us on the left', so I was wondering which stripe of communism suits you.

I would like to dissect your post line by line and would rather do so with your participation.

If I misread your direct statement, please accept my apologies.

[harrowup]

I will be voting for President Bush again just as I did for his father.

I prefer pure communism (with me in charge of course) and oppose totalitarian regimes of any stripe. Communism works only where the vast majority of folks have nothing...and working together lightens the load.

That philosophical interlude aside, the practical matter is that Democrats are no more communist than Republicans are fascists as a general rule. There are exceptions on the fringes but I'm as close to the middle as I choose...hard left on social issues and hard right on defense. I like Democrats as a rule to fix the streets and carry the water because they do it better than the guys from the country club who don't tip the caddy. I like the Republicans on national defense because they know how profitable kicking arse can be and don't worry about offending somebody's great uncle in the old country.

For the record, I believe most libertarians are decent enough but they seem to gravitate to the lunatics when it comes to politics. As to Kerry v. Nader? If those were the two choices I would of course vote for myself.

[SunkenCiv]

I like having the Libertarian Party around, because it's not out of the mainstream (what I mean is, it's not some kind of radical fringe group on the hard left or hard right) and has some prominent proponents in show biz (Drew Carey, Kenny Kramer); it provides the right edge, makes the so-called Democratic Party into the left edge, and creates the situation we have today -- the Republican Party is the white line down the middle of the road. :')

[The Libertarian Dude]

I'm not that concerned about "same-sex marriage", but if you think it's that important, then propose a blanket, nationwide ban on it. That'll require monkeying around with the Constitution, and liberals would LOVE to make some changes of their own if we ever get under the hood.

"Open borders": I take Boortz' position... if you're from somewhere else, and you wanna come here so bad, fine; but you pay your own damn way, no siphoning off the dole, and if you're a criminal in your old country, you can damn well stay there.

"Legalized drugs": I'm not for all of them being legalized, so that would be the change to the LP platform in my book. But lets' be real about the whole drug thing: If the Drug Worriers are so concerned, then get a Constitutional amendment added that makes the WoD legitimate. Like Prohibition. Put it on paper, and take it out of bastard-war status.

"End of war on terrorism": I don't like the LP's position on that anymore than you do, cin, but I am something of a non-interventionist - we ONLY need to be getting involved in other peoples' squabbles when it's ABSOLUTELY necessary.

However, I'd like to pull a regime change in Cuba. But that's just a personal grudge.

[TWfromTEXAS]

Do I take it you expect me to change my entire persona and get along with these people?

Boy I'd like to see that!

[SunkenCiv]

I think we're blessed here on FreeRepublic -- we have very few dipshits and trolls, and fewer still professional delusionists. It's not unheard of, naturally, but very few.

George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Posts from the past......

[dsc]

"George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent"

Compensating for Demonrat fraud, I'd say you were just about right.

[Bear_Slayer]

I was here in Oct 2000 under a different name. Back then, it was a much more 'dog eat dog' world.

We had to be very careful with what we posted, and this was good. It forced us to think about what we believed and how we wrote it.

I've been back at FR for several months, I've posted some things that made me cringe. I knew I was gonna get flamed, and yet I got nothing.

Unless you are on a catholic thread, the posts/responses are pretty mild.

[airborne]

Post # 1 - I'm putting everything that's happened in the past into the grave and making a new start with everyone

Post # 41 - Paranoia is a bad start.

Well, you made it 40 posts before busting on someone!

That's longer than I've ever gone! ;^)

[Sloth]

We can debate nuance, but not believe that our personal positions are more important than the health of the whole.

I disagree. Promoting the whole at the cost of the individual is a Communistic concept. Rugged individualism is one of the strengths of conservatism.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks! I agree.

[cyborg]

post terri bump for an oldie but goodie

[SunkenCiv]

Something that bugs me? Vanity posts. Useless wastes of bandwidth.

Eating our own...Time to make a new start in Free Republic.
7-26-04 | Bob J
Posted on 07/26/2004 7:41:11 PM PDT by Bob J
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts
732 posted on 07/27/2004 8:59:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts?page=732#732
896 posted on 07/31/2004 11:51:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts?page=896#896
908 posted on 08/05/2004 9:17:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts?page=908#908
911 posted on 09/09/2004 11:31:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts?page=911#911
917 posted on 03/31/2005 8:19:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts?page=917#917

[SunkenCiv]

Some Conservatives Need To Be Taken To The Woodshed (vanity)
Me | 18-October-2005 | Erik Latranyi
Posted on 10/18/2005 8:18:22 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1504597/posts