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Hacking May Have Learned Of Husband's Lies
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | July 27, 2004 | Ashley Broughton & Matthew D. LaPlante

Posted on 07/27/2004 10:15:01 AM PDT by Bonaparte

Hacking may have learned of husband's lies



Missing: The family hires a criminal defense attorney to represent Mark Hacking, who remains hospitalized

By Ashley Broughton
and Matthew D. LaPlante
The Salt Lake Tribune

Salt Lake Tribune

2004-07-27 00:39:09.532

Three days before she disappeared, Lori Hacking may have uncovered her husband's deceptions.
   She received a phone call at her work, started crying and went home early, said a colleague at Wells Fargo Institutional Brokerage and Sales.
   
"I could hear her say things such as, 'But he's already been accepted. He's already applied. This can't be correct,' said Darren Openshaw, a Wells Fargo employee who overheard the phone call about 2:15 p.m. on July 16.
   Openshaw said he believes the caller was from the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.
   "I don't know for sure it was the school," he said. "I can only assume."
   Lori Hacking and her husband, Mark Hacking, were preparing to move to Chapel Hill, where he said he had been accepted to medical school.
   But last week, shortly after Mark Hacking reported his wife missing, police learned he had never applied at North Carolina and had lied to his family about graduating from the University of Utah.
   His family members, meanwhile, said Monday that they have retained Salt Lake City criminal defense attorney Gilbert Athay to represent him. Family spokesman Scott Dunaway said the move was necessary because of news media reports regarding Mark Hacking.
   Monday marked one week since Lori Hacking, 27, dis- appeared.
   The Salt Lake City woman, who reportedly was five weeks pregnant, failed to return from an early-morning jog in City Creek Canyon, according to her husband.
   Friends have said that Mark Hacking contacted them about his wife's disappearance about 10 a.m., claiming he had twice run his wife's usual jogging route three miles each way, looking for her before he called police.
   But police said last week that before Mark Hacking reported his wife missing, he was purchasing a new queen-sized mattress at a South Salt Lake furniture store.
   Authorities have been unable to confirm Lori Hacking was in the canyon that morning and consider her husband, Mark Hacking, the only "person of interest" in the case.
   Dunaway said relatives were not aware of the phone call Lori Hacking apparently received at work July 16.
   The last time Lori Hacking contacted her mother was by e-mail July 14 or 15, he said, making arrangements for her to take care of the couple's cat while they were preparing for their move to North Carolina.
   Before Lori Hacking received the phone call on Friday, Openshaw said, he had seen her looking at UNC-Chapel Hill's Web site.
   Afterward, "she hung up the phone and sort of sat there crying," he said. "We asked her if she was OK and if she wanted to leave a little early."
   She did. But by the time she arrived at her going-away party held that evening, she seemed fine, Openshaw said. Co-workers were so relieved at her elevated mood that they didn't bother to inquire about the phone call.
   "We didn't think of it," he said. "We assumed everything had been worked out, that there may have been a misunderstanding. Whatever it was that upset her seemed to have been resolved."
   Pictures from the party, held at a supervisor's cabin in the Uinta Mountains, show Lori Hacking in a baggy gray University of Utah sweatshirt, smiling widely with her husband's arm wrapped around her shoulder.
   Another shot depicts her standing next to her supervisor, Randy Church, and a cake that reads: "We'll miss you, Lori."
   But those present didn't intend the party to be the last time they saw Lori Hacking. Her last day at Wells Fargo was to be Aug. 5, according to a company spokesman.
   Those at the party said the guest of honor didn't speak in detail about her future plans, but seemed optimistic about the impending move.
   Openshaw said he asked Mark Hacking at the party whether he was planning on rooting for UNC or rival Duke. "He said he didn't really get into stuff like that."
   A close friend of Lori Hacking, who saw the couple at a housewarming party the night before she disappeared, said she made no mention of an upsetting phone call.
   "Lori was just acting totally normal," said Erin Galbraith, a former college roommate of Lori Hacking. "I would have sensed something weird. I was in their apartment. I was looking at boxes."
   Mark Hacking remained hospitalized Monday, Dunaway said, after suffering what relatives have called a "breakdown" the evening of June 19.
   Police last questioned Mark Hacking on Wednesday. "To go back and re-question him on the same issues when we don't feel he's been truthful the first time - I don't think that would do us any good," said Detective Dwayne Baird, a police spokesman.
   Baird said Mark Hacking has been cooperative with authorities, however.
   Police are still awaiting test results from the state crime lab. "They have a lot of material," he said.
   Athay said he was retained to represent Mark Hacking late Thursday and has met with him several times. He would not describe the meetings or discuss his conversations with his client.
   Asked why Mark Hacking needs an attorney, Athay said, "Everybody needs a lawyer when they're under investigation or suspicion."
   He said he was returning calls to reporters Monday because of curiosity regarding his role in the case, but said he will not be saying much in the future.
   "You know me," he said. "I'm pretty closed-mouthed and tight-lipped."
   Mark Hacking called his wife's office about 10 a.m. on July 19, speaking first to Brandon Hodge, another trading assistant she was training. He didn't ask where his wife was, but instead how she was doing, Hodge told The Associated Press.
   ''By the way, how is Lori?'' Hacking reportedly asked. Hodge said he replied, ''Well, she's not made it into work yet.''
   Church then took the phone and recalls Hacking saying she hadn't returned from a sunrise jog at Memory Grove, a downtown park near the office. Hacking made it seem he was calling from his apartment, Church told the AP.
   ''Oh, my God, her [work] clothes are still here,'' Hacking reportedly said to Church, who had been expecting Lori Hacking at 7 a.m. and says she was never late to work.
   ''I said, 'You need to call police immediately. Just get off the phone,' Church said.
   Police said Mark Hacking's call came in at 10:49 a.m. Monday - about 25 minutes after he used his credit card to buy the mattress at Bradley's Sleep Etc.
   In other developments Monday:
   l Salt Lake City Police officers used dogs to search the city landfill Monday night. Baird said they were finishing up a search of the area that had started last week. High temperatures and the availability of the dogs were the reason for the night search, he said.
   l Police said they are looking into a lead that Mark Hacking may have visited an R.C. Willey Home Furnishings store nearby before going into Bradley's.
   l Authorities have asked anyone who was in Memory Grove Park or City Creek Canyon between 5 a.m. and 11 a.m. on July 19 to call 799-3000 or 799-INFO (4636).
   l Police continued to decline comment on reports of blood and a bloody knife found at the Hackings' apartment, saying the information is evidentiary in value.
   l Police rejected a Salt lake Tribune open-records request for initial police reports in the Lori Hacking case, as is routine in most disappearance cases. In a letter to the newspaper, Capt. Mark Peck said releasing the information might interfere with a law-enforcement investigation, disclose investigative techniques or deprive a person of a right to a fair trial.
   l A BFI Waste Services driver who picked up the Hackings' garbage at about 3:30 p.m. on July 19 said he saw nothing unusual and wasn't asked by police to inspect his collections, as is often the case in drug investigations and other crimes.
   l The Salt Lake City office of the FBI said it has not been involved in Lori Hacking's case. The FBI has offered its help through agents and profilers but police have so far has not accepted, said spokesman Bob Wright.
    aebroughton@sltrib.com
   mlaplante@sltrib.com
   
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    Tribune reporters Stephen Hunt and Michael Westley contributed to this story.
   
   


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: avoidingalimony; avoidingchildsupport; getarope; guilty; hacking; lori; lyingliar; missingjogger; murder; patholiar; pregnantjogger; utah; wifekiller
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1 posted on 07/27/2004 10:15:04 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: kcvl

hmmmmm...


2 posted on 07/27/2004 10:15:46 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

How to smother all the BAD news about the dimocrats OR republicans?

Plaster crap like this over all the tv channels, radio talk & news, and front page newspapers.

All for a simple murder case.


3 posted on 07/27/2004 10:18:42 AM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: Bonaparte
Hacking! It appears that is what he did.

This guy is toast.

4 posted on 07/27/2004 10:18:59 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Bonaparte

Seems to me the media realizes Scott Peterson is going to be acquitted, and they need "fresh meat".


5 posted on 07/27/2004 10:23:14 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Badeye

Exactly


6 posted on 07/27/2004 10:24:34 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Petronski; Sunshine55; Unknown Freeper; asgardshill; cripplecreek; the Deejay; dandelion; ...
Hacking Retains Lawyer
7 posted on 07/27/2004 10:25:59 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

I think the Hacking family was lawyer shopping soon as Mark's lies, timeline, etc. were surfacing.


8 posted on 07/27/2004 10:31:38 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: steplock

Some of us manage to read more than one article on FR. For instance, I can read this one, then read something on the ThreatMatrix thread, then move on to yet another topic. Or is your mouse one of those that only clicks on articles you don't like? Several people seem to have that problem.


9 posted on 07/27/2004 10:36:02 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Bonaparte

Your ping is much appreciated. I wonder if we'll see an arrest this week?


10 posted on 07/27/2004 10:38:17 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: JLS; Marty; randog; Dustbunny; AntiGuv; sissyjane; lady lawyer; fiesti; varina davis; ...

see also post 7 link


11 posted on 07/27/2004 10:39:33 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: the Deejay

Oh, absolutely. And what better way to keep him on ice than in the looney bin?


12 posted on 07/27/2004 10:40:59 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
I wonder if there is any connection being implied by the mention of a purchase of a mattress and the landfill?

Has anyone heard of eccentric millionaire stuffing a mattress full of cash?

I wonder if they have located the mattress the new was was to replace?

I would prefer to hear she is okay just upset.
13 posted on 07/27/2004 10:45:59 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Bonaparte
The FBI has offered its help through agents and profilers but police have so far has not accepted

Territorial? Why would they refuse FBI help?

14 posted on 07/27/2004 10:46:30 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Bonaparte

After hearing about this. I can only assume that she went home Friday, confronted him and he tolded her he had everything under control and that the school made a mistake. On Sunday evening they went to her going away party and everything seemed fine and she was happy and still talking about the move to NC (so he must have convinced her the school made an error). After they got home Sunday night I think she went to sleep and he killed her while she slept. No one heard any noises or fighting in the apartment complex otherwise we would have heard about this from someone trying to get their 15 minutes of fame in front of the cameras. I think he felt he had to kill her before she got up on Monday to call the school to tell them "they" made a mistake, as they only would have verified again that he was not enrolled or didn't even apply for the school.

I think now that he was wanting to get her out there in NC to kill her, but everything was being discovered before the move. I read that he has been out in NC and was staying out there and I just wonder if he hooked up with someone else while he was out there.

Something tells me he hacked her up (no pun intended) and scattered her remains all over Salt Lake City.

JMHO...


15 posted on 07/27/2004 10:47:25 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: MizSterious

Why are you so snarky and sarcastic? Must be nice being perfect.


16 posted on 07/27/2004 10:53:00 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Bonaparte
His defense lawyer will try to claim that if they don't investigate where Scott Peterson was last week, then their case is all prejudicial, and should be thrown out.
17 posted on 07/27/2004 10:53:38 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: RogerFGay

An anti-fatherhood article ping!


18 posted on 07/27/2004 10:54:40 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: brigette

My guess is that she told him that SHE was going to call the school in the morning and straighten it out. He panicked and killed her.

Many pathological liars cannot handle the truth when it suddenly comes into their face.


19 posted on 07/27/2004 10:55:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Mark in the Old South

Looking at the situation, I would have to say that your assumptions would be a better answer than mine would be. But the guy must be a nut. To lie, and lie, and lie for years....I know being a liar does not constitute being a murderer...but the events happening so close together and the way they did stipulates only 1 word to me...............GUILTY.


20 posted on 07/27/2004 10:57:44 AM PDT by Rabbit29
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To: MayflowerMadam

People who come on a thread just to complain about that thread's very existance tend to irritate me. There are many choices of articles on FR--so why come to one only to complain that's there? (Trust me, if FR management did not think these articles were fit for FR, they'd remove them.)

Which brings to mind yet another question--what's it to you if I respond to such nonsense?


21 posted on 07/27/2004 11:00:23 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: brigette

Yep. Good call. And how many people go and buy a mattress a few days before they move?


22 posted on 07/27/2004 11:07:57 AM PDT by applemac_g4
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To: AppyPappy
Yes... but I think he convinced her on Friday everything was ok and that the school had it wrong when they called on Friday at work. She was fine on Sunday night and was still talking about moving to NC with friends at her going away party. The husband was suppose to drive out to NC on Wednesday (7/21). I believe and she was going to fly out to NC on after August 1st. I think he knew she would be contacting the school again when the new work week started.

I think she died thinking that the school had it messed up and that he did her in while she slept. No one has said there was a fight between them heard in the apartments that night. I think this info would have been leaked out if there was a fight and if neighbors heard it.

In other words it was pre-meditated, he waited for her to go to sleep and then killed her quickly so she could not make a sound. So very sad...
23 posted on 07/27/2004 11:09:01 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Bonaparte
And what better way to keep him on ice than in the looney bin?

And wouldn't this come under "obstruction of justice"? I say this because Mark hasn't been diagnosed with a mental problem or anything else. (Per MH's dad's statement.) Mark's just "hiding out."

24 posted on 07/27/2004 11:13:20 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: applemac_g4
a lot of people do (My husband and I did before we moved out of state, because we wanted our new bed at the new place the first night we were there, instead of having to "rush - sporaticly buy" a new one in a place we didn't know where the good deals were)...but most don't have their spouse turn up missing near the same time they buy a mattress
25 posted on 07/27/2004 11:13:54 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Grig; Texas Mom; CedarDave; hispanarepublicana; gcruse; Alia; BurbankKarl; ...

see also post 7 link


26 posted on 07/27/2004 11:14:35 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
Hacking Retains Lawyer discussion
27 posted on 07/27/2004 11:17:03 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: stainlessbanner
"Why would they refuse FBI help?"

1)SLC PD has had some embarassments in recent years and the mayor is keeping a close eye on them. I think they may want to prove something.

2) The case is only one week old, they have apparently collected a lot of evidence and they appear to be very confident they can solve this themselves.

3) Once the FBI is brought in, they can sometimes irritate the local cops by throwing their weight around. Depends how well the local PD gets along with the people in the FBI field office.

28 posted on 07/27/2004 11:23:26 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: brigette

I think you've described the most likely scenario. And it wouldn't surprise me if he'd gotten involved with some other woman, either locally or in NC. He had an awful lot of time on his hands that nobody knew about. I believe we're going to eventually find out what he did with that time.


29 posted on 07/27/2004 11:27:20 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: brigette

Another article that was recently posted said that she told a friend at that party that Mark was going to go on out to NC several weeks before she did. She was staying to attend an event the beginning of August and was going to fly out to meet him. I wonder if he was just going to disappear, but she found out about all of his lies when she received that phone call from UNC. The he killed her.


30 posted on 07/27/2004 11:28:11 AM PDT by twigs
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To: stainlessbanner
Territorial? Why would they refuse FBI help?

A lot of local LEOs will tell you that "FBI" stands for "Fart, Belch, & Itch" (their alleged behavior on any investigation) or "Federally Badged Idiots" (overall adjective of choice).

If the FBI's profiling shop offered help, I'd take it. They really know their stuff.

31 posted on 07/27/2004 11:31:06 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man." -- John Dryden)
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To: Bonaparte; stainlessbanner
3) Once the FBI is brought in, they can sometimes irritate the local cops by throwing their weight around. Depends how well the local PD gets along with the people in the FBI field office.

I seem to recall that the Feds annoyed the SLCPD while investigating the "Salamander Letter" bombings back in the 1980s.

32 posted on 07/27/2004 11:34:15 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man." -- John Dryden)
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To: All

Fox just reported that Lori & Mark were the managers of the apartment complex. The apartment owners found new managers as they expected Mark & Lori to move to NC, the family is now removing the property from the apartment as the police have turned it back over to the families.


33 posted on 07/27/2004 11:37:22 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: the Deejay
And wouldn't this come under "obstruction of justice"?

IMO, no. MH displayed behavior sufficiently bizarre to justify his admission to a psychiatric facility for the protection of himself and others. I don't believe there's any requirement that a specific diagnosis be made within a brief timespan but that it's enough to note the behavioral abberation. Besides, the police themselves have stated that MH has been "cooperating" with the investigation, even though they've also stated that he's not told them the truth. They haven't been denied access to him and my guess is that they are probably pleased that he is under wraps like this. It simplifies things for them and they don't have to worry themselves about his doing anything frisky, such as murdering potentially incriminating witnesses or further tampering with evidence.

34 posted on 07/27/2004 11:38:14 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: brigette

I really hate to tell you, but none of your scenario makes any sense. First of all, the going away party was Friday, and not Sunday, night. The Sunday night party was at their apartment. Second, to kill someone and dispose of the body so well authorities couldn't find it for at least two weeks takes a lot of planning or preparation and time. Anyone would be hard pressed to do it in 8 or 10 hours without being seen, and if he was planning on doing it in NC as you suggest, he would have screwed something up pretty bad if he did kill her and try to dispose of the body in SLC. Finally, if he was planning on off-ing her in NC, why would he let her know of any housing arrangements? He would have told her he would take care of them himself. He obviously was cunning enough to lead her to believe he was accepted to medical school when he hadn't even applied.

We don't even know if she is dead or if a crime has been committed. Let's wait and see what happens before engaging in silly speculation.


35 posted on 07/27/2004 11:39:46 AM PDT by 1L
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To: MizSterious

I noticed ,too......;)...Some of us can multitask,read on several subjects...and I have a remote that works instantly when I don't like what I'm watching...like The dem convention speeches.


36 posted on 07/27/2004 11:40:22 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: brigette
Thanks for the update. We now know how MH spent at least some of all that spare time he had -- tending to the property and tenants.
37 posted on 07/27/2004 11:41:26 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: brigette
RE: Mattress purchase.

I think it was "unclear" whether they had an apt. to move straight into in this case. Hence, the phone call Lori got on Friday. They were not booked into an apt. Mark knew this. He was going to wing it once they got to NC. (Tell Lori the apt. isn't ready to move into right now.) This is my take anyway.

38 posted on 07/27/2004 11:42:44 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: brigette

I'm wondering about this 'call'. It seems a bit unclear as to whether the school called her or she called the school. But in either case, why would the one call the other? This may be another instance of someone trying to get their face plastered on TV.


39 posted on 07/27/2004 11:45:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Bonaparte

I'll bet Mark won't be staying in that hospital once the arrest warrant is issued.


40 posted on 07/27/2004 11:46:07 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Bonaparte

I suspect this is more a matter of laying groundwork for his defense, although it must also be said that anyone who lies as much as he has over the years--and thinks he can get away with it forever--can't be quite "all there."


41 posted on 07/27/2004 11:46:20 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: the Deejay

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595079881,00.html

Thomas said that she last heard from Lori the Saturday before she disappeared, when she received an e-mail with her new address in North Carolina.
"I'm still kind of numb," Thomas said. "It's starting to sink in."


42 posted on 07/27/2004 11:46:37 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: MEGoody
"It seems a bit unclear as to whether the school called her or she called the school."

Strike that. But the question remains - why would the school call her to tell her that her husband hadn't been accepted?

43 posted on 07/27/2004 11:46:50 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: MEG33

Hah! Yes, it's wise to use the remote during those!


44 posted on 07/27/2004 11:47:56 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MEGoody

She called the school about housing, they were returning her call at her job.


45 posted on 07/27/2004 11:48:25 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: brigette
Of course. Mark is such a "professional liar" and a coniver, he got an address of an apt. in NC and told Lori it was their new address.

Mark lies were so good nobody doubted for an instant everything he told them. And he had lies to back up lies. Professional liar. He's been doing this for years. I seriously doubt he's going to lie his way out of this.

46 posted on 07/27/2004 11:53:16 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Bonaparte

The man is a sociopath, and I believe he is guilty. Those weren't just lies he was telling, but damn lies. This would explain why Lori was upset friday afternoon, but was okay at the party. He lied to her again, obviously. The one thing a sociopath or narcissist cannot handle is being unmasked. They become very dangerous.

This is my take on what happened. Lori goes home and tells her husband about the conversation she had. He tells her it is just a computer glitch, or whatever, and he'll straighten it out Monday. Now he knows that the game is over, and he has to take care of her before he is exposed. Sociopaths prey on innocent, trusting people. Lori and both families seem to fall into that category. He is such a good liar that he even pulled off the sham of graduating from the University of Utah.

What else has he lied about? Someone from the Church needs to contact the people who accompanied him on his mission. Did something happen while he was doing missionary work? I think if people wake up and start doing some digging, they might find more things. He didn't just have a nervous breakdown because this has been going on for a long time.


47 posted on 07/27/2004 11:53:46 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: Bonaparte

Thanks Bonapart...The mystery remains...Why did he buy a mattress shortly before informing police his wife is missing and take the time to take it home..

Where is Lori and are the " blood evidence in apartment" reports accurate?..A criminal attorney, is hired and none too soon, it would appear.


48 posted on 07/27/2004 11:54:00 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: MizSterious

The "slam" was against the "news" media to begin with - there is NO national interest in this minor local only murder - how many hundreds of murders occur daily?

This is publicized only to cover up the sleaze that would otherwise be on peoples minds! like the dnc!


49 posted on 07/27/2004 11:54:06 AM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: Bonaparte

Thank you for your ping, Bonaparte. Evidence is gathering, indeed, implicating Mark Hacking. I just really wish at least her body, or she, alive, were known. So the families can get beyond this "fugue" state of not knowing. That's just gotta be the worst.


50 posted on 07/27/2004 11:57:19 AM PDT by Alia
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