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Ron Reagan Jr. -- Ignorant or Lying
HUMAN EVENTS Online ^ | Jul 27, 2004 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 07/27/2004 12:15:57 PM PDT by Miami Vice

"We now know that he (Al Gore) would have won Florida," proclaimed Ronald Prescott Reagan, son of the late President Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Ron made this incredible declaration during MSNBC"s Chris Matthews' show, as they reported about former Vice President Al Gore's speech at the Democratic National Convention. When asked by Matthews how does he know this, Ron remarked that there was a "consortium" of newspapers who counted the votes in Florida and determined that Gore would have won. Matthews incredibly confirmed this by saying Gore would have won the election if he requested a statewide vote recount in Florida.

If this is the quality of reporting by MSNBC, is it any wonder they have very little audience. It is well known that their CEO is a Clintonista and that Ron Reagan was asked to address the Democratic convention after he made his veiled reference criticizing the Bush administration during his father's funeral (which indicates the opportunistic character of Ron). However, this set new standards for propaganda. Was it Goebbels who said if you tell a lie a thousand times people will believe it? Ron must have read his book (of course then again that could be said about most Democrats).

Memo to Reagan and Matthews from CNN (not exactly a part of the right wing conspiracy) April 4, 2001: "If a recount of Florida's disputed votes in last year's close presidential election had been allowed to proceed by the U.S. Supreme Court, Republican George W. Bush still would have won the White House, two newspapers reported Wednesday.

"The Miami Herald and USA Today conducted a comprehensive review of 64,248 'undercounted' ballots in Florida's 67 counties that ended last month.

"Their count showed that Bush's razor-thin margin of 537 votes -- certified in December by the Florida's Secretary of State's office -- would have tripled to 1,665 votes if counted according to standards advocated by his Democratic rival, former Vice President Al Gore. ...'In the end, I think we probably confirmed that President Bush should have been president of the United States,' said Mark Seibel, the paper's managing editor. 'I think that it was worthwhile because so many people had questions about how the ballots had been handled and how the process had worked.' " However, the World Socialist Web Site did say that the USA Today and Miami Herald results were not correct. Perhaps this is the paper Ron Reagan reads. They wanted the results of a Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and Washington Post study, which they felt would be more comprehensive.

When those results were published by CNN it too confirmed the previous study: "A comprehensive study of the 2000 presidential election in Florida suggests that if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a statewide vote recount to proceed, Republican candidate George W. Bush would still have been elected president.

"The National Opinion Research Center (NORC) at the University of Chicago conducted the six-month study for a consortium of eight news media companies, including CNN....NORC dispatched an army of trained investigators to examine closely every rejected ballot in all 67 Florida counties, including handwritten and punch-card ballots. The NORC team of coders were able to examine about 99 percent of them, but county officials were unable to deliver as many as 2,200 problem ballots to NORC investigators. In addition, the uncertainties of human judgment, combined with some counties' inability to produce the same undervotes and overvotes that they saw last year, create a margin of error that makes the study instructive but not definitive in its findings. ...The National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago study was commissioned by eight media companies -- The Associated Press, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, the St. Petersburg Times, The Palm Beach Post, The Washington Post and the Tribune Co., which includes the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, the Orlando Sentinel and Baltimore Sun, as well as other papers." Apparently the World Socialist Web Site, Ronald Prescott Reagan, and Chris Matthews all drink the same Kool Aid, either that or they are receiving their marching orders from Terry McAuliffe.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: absalom; ballerina; both; chrismatthews; floridaelection; greengayfudgepacker; liberals; media; msnbc; prescottisnotajunior; reagan; ronreaganjr; vampireteeth

1 posted on 07/27/2004 12:16:05 PM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice

Ron P. Reagan is both ignorant, and lying.


2 posted on 07/27/2004 12:19:14 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: NautiNurse

Not to mention...washed up hag tulip..whose only claim to fame was his availablilty to the left
and willingness to lie about his father...and put his father's last name to the lies of the left...

He is pink scum

imo


3 posted on 07/27/2004 12:23:16 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Miami Vice

Belive it or not, in my usual "fast-flipping" remote control method, I saw him say this. My personal opinion is he is an idiot. He believed what he said to be true, thus, mild brain damage is the cause.


4 posted on 07/27/2004 12:24:00 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle (Shrug)
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To: NautiNurse

I'm with you


5 posted on 07/27/2004 12:25:06 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: NautiNurse

More like just, plain STUPID!!!

What little ronnie doesn't realize is that when the dem/libs are through using him for their own selfish agenda...they'll toss him aside like a ragdoll.

And THAT my friends is why he is "Just plain STUPID!"


6 posted on 07/27/2004 12:25:37 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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To: Miami Vice

No doubt Ron P. Reagan has always been an extreme left winger. If you want to know the truth about the election just read Bill Sammon's "How Al Gore tried to steal the election." Chris Matthews has also gone from being respectable to a lap dog for the DNC and John Kerry. I know he use to work for Tip O'neal but when he first started Hardball it was fair, and it has now dwindled into a left wing propaganda machine.


7 posted on 07/27/2004 12:27:19 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Bush - Cheney 2004, Now More Than Ever!)
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To: Miami Vice

Well bless his lil' ole heart.

That boy is a few bricks shy of a load.


8 posted on 07/27/2004 12:28:05 PM PDT by najida (Without pack-rats, there wouldn't be any antiques.)
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To: Miami Vice
What a lonely, pathetic, loser that Ronald Prescott Reagan is.

The only thing to show up at your funeral will be a stray dog to pee on your grave!

9 posted on 07/27/2004 12:28:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Miami Vice
It only proves that the democrats are dumber than we thought if they believe that Jr will somehow bring republican votes by association.

Don't be surprised if they bring out a psychic claiming to speak for Ronald Wilson Reagan from "beyond".
10 posted on 07/27/2004 12:30:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: Miami Vice
We all know that the only reason Ron Prescott is part of the MSNBC convention coverage team is that his last name is "Reagan." He offers nothing -- no insight, no intelligence, no information...all he offers is the Reagan name, which he shames every time he opens his trap. His being on MSNBC is an embarrassment and a scandal. And tonight the lie gets to be magnified as he speaks to the convention about stemcell research.

BTW, I watched a total of about 10 minutes of the convention coverage, spread between MSNBC and Fox last night. On its "After Hours" segment, MSNBC had the "balanced" team of Mike Barnicle, Joe Trippi, Dede Meyers, the aforementioned Ron Prescott, anchored by Joe Scarborough. Talk about "balanced"!! Over on Fox, during Greta's show, there was Bill Kristol sitting like a silent lump of flesh while Cece Connolly and Susan Estrich monopolized the conversation. The coverage was worse than dreadful -- it was unbearable -- which is I switched to SciFi and watched Stargate reruns.

11 posted on 07/27/2004 12:34:14 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: cubreporter
What little ronnie doesn't realize is that when the dem/libs are through using him for their own selfish agenda...they'll toss him aside like a ragdoll.

And he'll land in a pile of disguarded idiots, landing on top of Kristen Breitweiser and the other Jersey Girls.

12 posted on 07/27/2004 12:36:33 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: Miami Vice

Matthews has become the 'Rat waterboy and his ratings have suffered because of it! He has less credibility than a screen door on a submarine.

Regarding Ron Reagan Jr., you wonder who was really the adopted one...Michael or Ron Jr.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


13 posted on 07/27/2004 12:36:54 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla
you wonder who was really the adopted one...Michael or Ron Jr.

This is why I refuse to use the name "Reagan" associated with Ron Jr. He brings shame to the Reagan name. To me, it's "Ron Prescott" and "Mike Reagan!"

14 posted on 07/27/2004 12:40:03 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Fair, balanced...and unafraid.")
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To: Miami Vice

This guy has always been and will always be a democrat...how many ballet dancers have ever claimed to be a Republican??? :)


15 posted on 07/27/2004 12:41:14 PM PDT by tiger
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To: Miami Vice

Lying or ignorant? What's wrong with lying and ignorant?


16 posted on 07/27/2004 12:43:12 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Reagan79

Yeah, Matthews used to be an honest liberal. He attacked the Clintons during Monicagate. Now he's just a nasal-voiced shill representing perhaps the worst cable channel on the air.


17 posted on 07/27/2004 12:43:51 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg
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To: NautiNurse

You are correct sir


18 posted on 07/27/2004 12:48:02 PM PDT by erinjohn (“There was a guy in a headscarf with an AK47 standing there looking at me, so I shot him.”)
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To: Miami Vice

Moore made that claim in his film too. They think enough time has passed since the consortium released their findings that Bush won according to their recounts that they can use the Big Lie method. They'll repeat this over and over and unless it's disputed, forcefully, it will become perceived truth.


19 posted on 07/27/2004 12:49:42 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Miami Vice

There he goes again . . . !


20 posted on 07/27/2004 12:52:50 PM PDT by KiloLima
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To: Miami Vice
Ronald Prescott Reagan

The Democrats are doing another funerally.
They're using the death of President Reagan, who was dearly loved by the American majority, and abusing his legacy and taking advantage of his death to push their political agenda.
Most Americans loved Reagan, and this is a slap in his face - not good for Democrats at all. This one is a backfire if we alert people. It needs to be brought to the forefront, so the voters are aware of it.

21 posted on 07/27/2004 1:00:53 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Miami Vice

I already wrote to complain about Ron Reagan's outrageous lies that Farenheit 911 is factual and that Gore won the media recount in Florida.

joe@msnbc.com
hardball@msnbc.com
viewerservices@msnbc.com
GeneralComments@feedback.msnbc.com


22 posted on 07/27/2004 1:19:35 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Miami Vice
An ignorant person so blinded by hatred of all that his father represented that he cannot differentiate fact from fiction when discussing such issues.
23 posted on 07/27/2004 1:22:38 PM PDT by fso301
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg
Yeah, Matthews used to be an honest liberal...

About as abundant as chicken teeth nowadays.

24 posted on 07/27/2004 2:24:44 PM PDT by Studebaker Hawk ( (fill in the blank) more than I need; not as many as I want.)
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To: fso301

If Ron is still trying to impress and win the admiration of the hollywood crowd and the rest of the left, it is not working. I heard a top of the hour news report which played clips of some the Democrat Party faithful telling the reporter what they thought of Ron speaking at the convention tonight. Most were still so full of hatred for President Reagan they were anything but accepting of Ron. He's pathetic in his pandering and will never get what he really wants.


25 posted on 07/27/2004 2:38:11 PM PDT by Route66 (America's Mainstreet)
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To: My2Cents

I was thinking today that President Reagan must be turning over in his grave.... then it occurred to me that perhaps he is commiserating with Senator John Heinz as the latter watches from beyond to see his children stumping for John Kerry.


26 posted on 07/27/2004 2:52:05 PM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Miami Vice

Yes.


27 posted on 07/27/2004 2:53:48 PM PDT by Samwise (Coming soon: Dems Gone Wild. Bill and Monica were only the beginning.)
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To: 68 grunt

Hi 68 grunt!!

Indeed!!

Nancee


28 posted on 07/27/2004 2:57:00 PM PDT by Nancee
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To: Miami Vice

John Kerry awaits his partial birth abortion!

29 posted on 07/27/2004 2:57:56 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: finnman69
I sent a short note regarding Chris Matthews and R.Prescot Regan Jr. to the following also:
Bob Wright Vice Chairman and Executive Officer, General Electric Company;Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, NBC Universal and Jeffrey R. Immelt Chairman of the Board and CEO, General Electric Company via the "contact us / GE Listens" https://www.ge.com/ge/feedback.htm

BWDIK? Maybe they will?
30 posted on 07/27/2004 4:35:55 PM PDT by Jan Hus
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To: Miami Vice; Caleb1411

BUMP


31 posted on 07/27/2004 7:19:28 PM PDT by rhema
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To: Miami Vice

It's horribly unfortunate that my President, Ronald R. Reagan, had the cross to bear of siring such an ungrateful, pathetic child. I think Michael Reagan was an actual Reagan offspring. This one is not adopted, sired, or even dreamed of in any parent's nightmare. After all...How many parents want a ballet star for a child? Um...male, anyway... Nevermind. I watched Ronald Reagan's funeral. Michael Reagan expressed his sorrow and love. Ron Jr. used it as a political platform. Go back to hosting SNL, Ron Jr. You have no respect from any who loved your father, and you will never be able to tie George W's shoes, much less your father's.

Scorpion


32 posted on 02/04/2005 12:57:24 PM PST by ScorpiusInvincitatus ("It's open-season on idiots, and I am well-armed.")
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To: Miami Vice

It's horribly unfortunate that my President, Ronald W. Reagan, had the cross to bear of siring such an ungrateful, pathetic child. I think Michael Reagan was an actual Reagan offspring. This one is not adopted, sired, or even dreamed of in any parent's nightmare. After all...How many parents want a ballet star for a child? Um...male, anyway... Nevermind. I watched Ronald Reagan's funeral. Michael Reagan expressed his sorrow and love. Ron Jr. used it as a political platform. Go back to hosting SNL, Ron Jr. You have no respect from any who loved your father, and you will never be able to tie George W's shoes, much less your father's.

Scorpion


33 posted on 02/04/2005 12:58:17 PM PST by ScorpiusInvincitatus ("It's open-season on idiots, and I am well-armed.")
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