Socialists Join Communists in Backing Kerry

NewsMax ^ | 7/27/04 | Carl Limbacher

[wagglebee]

We've already reported how Communist Party USA has endorsed John Kerry for president, and now we're pleased to note that Democratic Socialists (isn't that redundant?) of America has chimed in as well.

"Kerry was hardly the first choice of our members. Most supported Dennis Kucinich or Howard Dean in the Democratic primary elections and would be very critical of Senator Kerry's voting record on trade issues, as well as his support for the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq; but the most important concern of our members now is to defeat Bush," said Frank Llewellyn, the socialists' national director.

What? They've now concluded that Kucinich can't bag the nomination?

With friends such as these, Kerry won't need any enemies.

[wagglebee]

Democrats,

Socialists,

Communists

Maybe someday one of them will explain the difference to the rest of us.

[Old Sarge]

Socialists Join Communists in Backing Kerry

YA THINK?!?

[luvbach1]

Demosociocoms?

[FreeRadical]

Well, let's see... That makes bomb bearin burka wearin b!tches and other assorted terrorists, Socialists, Commies, Greenies, Foreign Leaders, Pagans, Progressives and the usual suite of Hyphenated-"amerikin", refuse to assimilate, screw ups.

I reckon he won't get one single vote from an American.

[Tamzee]

Of course they do... they are his real Band of Brothers.

[KarlInOhio]

Socialists and Communists? I guess that is Kerry bipartisanship.

[THX 1138]

A sham. A mockery. A shamockery.

[cmsgop]

of a SHAM!

[fly_so_free]

Socialist + Communist = Democrat.

[beef]

"Democrats,
Socialists,

Communists

Maybe someday one of them will explain the difference to the rest of us."


No real difference. They're all neo-coms.

[Vigilanteman]

Simple-- Democrats are Socialists who need to hide their true identity from gullible voters. Socialists are Communists who need to hide their true identity from gullible voters. Communists are Socialists who got your guns.

[SpinyNorman]

"Democrats are Socialists who need to hide their true identity from gullible voters. Socialists are Communists who need to hide their true identity from gullible voters. Communists are Socialists who got your guns."

Hmmm, and liberals don't want to be known as liberals.

Funny how all these groups have to hide their true identities/intentions to get elected! Even they seem to know that their ideals are shunned by normal thinking individuals. But they have to disguise themselves to get elected.

I call that deceit. Or subterfuge. Definitely dishonest.

Definitely Democrat.

[Stand W]

Why not add Al Queida? Hama? France?

[El Sordo]

Are the commies running a candidate this year?

[Calpernia]

Sarge, is there a difference between Communism and Socialism?

[nmh]

To be a Demoncrat IS to be a socialist, so what's new about this?

I do think it is hilarious that the Communist Party in the U.S. is backing Kerry/Edwards.

[Old Sarge]

At the risk of bashing, here's mine: The way I see this, ideologically, Communism and Socialism are almost the same hue in the spectrum.

The difference lies in HOW each system comes into power.

Communism, almost universally but with a few exceptions, comes to power through violent overthrow of an existing political base; the Bolsheviks, and the Viet Cong, for examples. The political opposition is physically eliminated, or driven out.

Socialism, largely, comes into power through the manipulation of the election process. This gives the veneer to all observers of the legitimacy of their cause. I cite the rise of the NSDAP in Germany. After the attempted revolt in Munich - the Beer Hall Pustch (sp) - the Party proceeded to use the election laws to successfully secure their way to power. I should also mention the political power of the Democrats in America with that method, as well...

They really, come to the same endstate: the absolute authority and supremacy of The State over the individual.

[Calpernia]

So, Communism has infiltrated the socialist structure much like the way they hijacked the democratic party? Did you ever read the Communist Manifesto and the Muslim Manifesto? They too are almost identical.

Is that what is happening? Carnivoring?

[Old Sarge]

It seems the next evolutionary step. Remember the final endgame: Power.

[Clemenza]

Surprise!

[jonrick46]

Socialits + Communists + Demoncrats = end to capitalism

GET THE PICTURE?

[Cacique]

No surprise at all. I am waiting to see when the Stalinists chime in. They are always the most realistic faction of the left. After all it was Stalin that coined the term "useful fools". I expect that all the idots will continue to believe the fiction that Karl Kautsky believed in that you can have "democratic socialism" as opposed to "democratic centralism" espoused by Lenin. Eventually it devolves into the "dictatorship of the proletariat" run by those who think themselves the "revolutionary vanguard" (ie. the revolutionary elite or first among equals). Well, guess what? Stalin liked to have all these useful fools shot first.

If Stalinists take over, they will hire Republicans instead. At least we believe in loyalty and have principles and we don't pretend to be something we are not.

[Defender2]

kerry, testimony before Congress, 22 April, 1971, kerry says, "I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government,...."*(not on any authorised mission by the U.S. Government or by the U.S. military, kerry and his VVAW group meets and negotiates with the then enemy).

*excerpted from the Official U.S. Congressional Record dated 22 April, 1971.


"revamp the U.S. military", read as kerry's plan to PURGE the U.S. Military of Pro U.S. Military Veterans and Republicans, make it totally dependant on U.N. forces support for any significant achievement capable military(similar to france,germany, etc.), Turn home based U.S. Armed Forces, Intelligence agencies and Law Enforcement agencies into the democratic party's{including CPUSA and DSA} Praetorian Guard!!!!


kerry stabbed U.S. in the back continually since his return from Viet Nam. How much more backstabbing from this 22 April, 1971 testimony(self confessed traitor) before Congress that he(kerry) met with the then enemy in Paris, are we supposed to stand????

Some More Interesting historical news about kerry:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091943/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1160580/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165078/posts

Some of kerry's friends listed below:

http://www.cpusa.org/

http://www.dsausa.org/

DSA's "Progressive Caucus" Links below:

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp

They are the Enemy Within!!!!

I have at least one or two interesting posts about said such subject matter, below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1165983/posts

And see:

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

More: Communist Party Backs the RATS!!!! below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1171176/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172055/posts

[Cacique]

It is a matter of semantics. Communism has never existed anywhere. Marx believed that was the stage achieved after the state "withered away". The only difference between the socialists who fancy themselves as "democratic socialists" and "communists" (in reality Leninists) is that socialists believed in the co-existence of capitalism and it's eventual evolution into a socialist state via democratic means. Karl Kautsky being the main proponent of this idea. Lenin understood that this was a false state. He of course believe in a command control economy and total control of the state over the means of production and "democratic centralism" (what he meant was dictatorship, the left likes using words to hide intentions).

It was Mussolini who came up with a variant, the socialist corporate state. The society would be divided into "syndicates". the social function of each syndicate within the corporate state was to perform it's particular class function. What mattered to fascists was not the actual "ownership" but "control" of the means of production. They would allow capitalists to exist, but the state would determine what they produced. Hitler and the NSDAP eventually copied that model.

In the 1960's the movement in academia that promoted a theory called "convergence" gained prominence both in Europe and the US. Under this theory the communists countries and the West were evolving towards each other. Communism was becoming more democratic (in their view) and democratic countries were becoming more socialist eventually the two would meet and we would end up with democratic mixed economies with a democratic façade. Of course Reagan, the Pope and the collapse of the Soviet Union put a whole new paint-job on the situation. However, these failed academics are not wont to admit they believe in failed ideas and are always coming up with variants.

There is of course the rantings of that Sardinian Gramsci, whom is quite influential among western socialist circles, but that is for another day.

[Rome2000]

They are not Vietnam combat veterans, but they ARE card carrying members of the Democratic Socialists of America's Progressive Caucus, a group ofUNPATRIOTIC UNAMERICAN subversives that are actively engaged in overthrowing the capitalist system of government in the USA and transforming it into a socialist nation.

"Progressive" is a code word for socialist, note that Sanders of VT is an officer.

Why these people are allowed to get on national TV and not disclose or be asked by the press reagrding their membership in a socialist organization is beyond me.

The table below was downloaded from the Democratic Socialists of America

Members of the Progressive Caucus

officers
Member/Position/District	Address	Phone	Website
Peter DeFazio (OFFICER, OREGON-04)	2134 RHOB	225-6416	WEBSITE
Dennis Kucinich (Chairman) (CHAIR, OHIO-10)	1730 LHOB	225-5871	WEBSITE
Barbara Lee (Vice Chair) (OFFICER, CALIFORNIA-09)	426 CHOB	225-2661	WEBSITE
Cynthia McKinney (OFFICER, GEORGIA-04)	124 CHOB	225-1605	WEBSITE
Major Owens (OFFICER, NEW YORK-11)	2309 RHOB	225-6231	WEBSITE
Bernie Sanders (OFFICER, VERMONT)	2135 RHOB	225-4115	WEBSITE
Paul Wellstone (OFFICER, MINNESOTA)	136 HSOB	224-5641	WEBSITE

members
Member/Position/District	Address	Phone	Website
Neil Abercrombie (MEMBER, HAWAII-01)	1502 LHOB	225-2726	WEBSITE
Tammy Baldwin (MEMBER, WISCONSIN-02)	1022 LHOB	225-2906	WEBSITE
Xavier Becerra (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-30)	1119 LHOB	225-6235	WEBSITE
David Bonior (MEMBER, MICHIGAN-10)	2207 RHOB	225-2106	WEBSITE
Corrine Brown (MEMBER, FLORIDA-03)	2444 RHOB	225-0123	WEBSITE
Sherrod Brown (MEMBER, OHIO-13)	2438 RHOB	225-3401	WEBSITE
Michael Capuano (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-08)	1232 LHOB	225-5111	WEBSITE
Julia Carson (MEMBER, INDIANA-10)	1339 LHOB	225-4011	WEBSITE
William "Lacy" Clay (MEMBER, MISSOURI-01)	415 CHOB	225-2406	WEBSITE
John Conyers (MEMBER, MICHIGAN-14)	2426 RHOB	225-5126	WEBSITE
Danny Davis (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-07)	1222 LHOB	225-5006	WEBSITE
Rosa DeLauro (MEMBER, CONNECTICUT-03)	2262 RHOB	225-3661	WEBSITE
Lane Evans (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-17)	2211 RHOB	225-5905	WEBSITE
Eni Faleomavaega (MEMBER, AMERICAN SAMOA)	2422 RHOB	225-8577	WEBSITE
Sam Farr (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-17)	1221 LHOB	225-2861	WEBSITE
Chaka Fattah (MEMBER, PENNSYLVANIA-02)	1205 LHOB	225-4001	WEBSITE
Bob Filner (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-50)	2463 RHOB	225-8045	WEBSITE
Barney Frank (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-04)	2252 RHOB	225-5931	WEBSITE
Luis Gutierrez (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-04)	2452 RHOB	225-8203	WEBSITE
Earl Hilliard (MEMBER, ALABAMA-07)	1314 LHOB	225-2665	WEBSITE
Maurice Hinchey (MEMBER, NEW YORK-26)	2431 RHOB	225-6335	WEBSITE
Jesse Jackson, Jr (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-02)	313 CHOB	225-0773
Sheila Jackson-Lee (MEMBER, TEXAS-18)	403 CHOB	225-3816	WEBSITE
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (MEMBER, OHIO-11)	1516 LHOB	225-7032	WEBSITE
Marcy Kaptur (MEMBER, OHIO-09)	2366 RHOB	225-4146	WEBSITE
Tom Lantos (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-12)	2217 RHOB	225-3531	WEBSITE
John Lewis (MEMBER, GEORGIA-05)	343 CHOB	225-3801	WEBSITE
Jim McDermott (MEMBER, WASHINGTON-07)	1035 LHOB	225-3106	WEBSITE
James P. McGovern (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-03)	430 CHOB	225-6101	WEBSITE
Carrie Meek (MEMBER, FLORIDA-17)	2433 RHOB	225-4506	WEBSITE
George Miller (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-07)	2205 RHOB	225-2095	WEBSITE
Patsy Mink (MEMBER, HAWAII-02)	2210 RHOB	225-4906	WEBSITE
Jerry Nadler (MEMBER, NEW YORK-08)	2334 RHOB	225-5635	WEBSITE
Eleanor Holmes Norton (MEMBER, D.C.)	2136 RHOB	225-8050	WEBSITE
John Olver (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-01)	1027 LHOB	225-5335	WEBSITE
Ed Pastor (MEMBER, ARIZONA-02)	2465 RHOB	225-4065	WEBSITE
Donald Payne (MEMBER, NEW JERSEY-10)	2209 RHOB	225-3436	WEBSITE
Nancy Pelosi (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-08)	2457 RHOB	225-4965	WEBSITE
Bobby Rush (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-01)	2416 RHOB	225-4372	WEBSITE
Jan Schakowsky (MEMBER, ILLINOIS-09)	515 CHOB	225-2111	WEBSITE
Jose Serrano (MEMBER, NEW YORK-16)	2342 RHOB	225-4361	WEBSITE
Hilda Solis (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-31)	1641 LHOB	225-5464	WEBSITE
Pete Stark (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-13)	239 CHOB	225-5065	WEBSITE
Bennie Thompson (MEMBER, MISSISSIPPI-02)	2432 RHOB	225-5876	WEBSITE
John Tierney (MEMBER, MASSACHUSETTS-06)	120 CHOB	225-8020	WEBSITE
Tom Udall (MEMBER, NEW MEXICO-03)	502 CHOB	225-6190	WEBSITE
Nydia Velazquez (MEMBER, NEW YORK-12)	2241 RHOB	225-2361	WEBSITE
Maxine Waters (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-35)	2344 RHOB	225-2201	WEBSITE
Diane Watson (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-32)	2413 RHOB	225-7084	WEBSITE
Mel Watt (MEMBER, NORTH CAROLINA-12)	2236 RHOB	225-1510	WEBSITE
Henry Waxman (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-29)	2204 RHOB	225-3976	WEBSITE
Lynn Woolsey (MEMBER, CALIFORNIA-06)	2263 RHOB	225-5161	WEBSITE

Congressional Progressive Caucus