Posted on 07/28/2004 8:33:49 AM PDT by nutmeg
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sourgrapes over Lance winning?
They're questioning the commitment of the second-best rider in the world? Are these people absolutely nuts?
...I'm talking about Ulrich there, if that wasn't clear...
Sore loser ping.
kloden is second, basso third.
The ride to live comment has a ring of truth since ulrich engages in the euro drinking to get too overweight vice.
He wins 6 tours de france in a row, then goes and wins a criterium! Amazing!
Maybe he plans to quiet his euro detractors who complain that the tdf is the only race he rides to win. It would put to rest the argument that Merckx won other classic euro-races in addition to the tour. With the largest lung relative lung capacity ever measured, and a 30% larger, also relative, heart, I think Lance has as many winning races in him as he wants!
www.wearyellow.com the yellow bands became backorderded on Sunday the 25th!
Go Lance!
What's a "Criterium"? Got a website I can go to for a good description?
I thought this guy McEwen was supposed to be the better sprinter, but Armstrong beat him in the criterium?
You know, there were a few riders that indicated they would be happy if Lance skipped the Tour next year, so they would have a chance to win. I don't understand that mentality, because if I was able to win because the best rider was not there, I would always think my win was not quite legitimate, due to not having competed against the best.
I honestly think it would be a travesty if Lance did not compete next year, because no matter who won, there would always be a question mark about their win.
A Criterium is a race over a course with several laps. It might be an eight mile course but a fourty mile race. They do not race as teams.
"You know, there were a few riders that indicated they would be happy if Lance skipped the Tour next year, so they would have a chance to win. I don't understand that mentality, because if I was able to win because the best rider was not there, I would always think my win was not quite legitimate, due to not having competed against the best."
Very good point. I agree that no one at that level would want an asterisk win. Especially if Lance went out and started stomping the other classic races too. With his talent, profound work ethic, and fantastic team support, Lance could likely win a 7th or maybe an 8th tour.
That would be fantastic.
Thanks;
a co-worker just stopped by and also told me a "criterium" is a race for a fixed time, like 45 minutes, not a fixed distance(?)
Criterium - A criterium is a short road race on a circuit usually city streets closed to traffic. The distance per lap may vary from 1/2km to 3km (1/3 mile to 2 miles). Races are of varying numbers of laps. The mass start, high-speed cornering and sprinting make criterium exciting for participants and spectators alike. Because criterium pass the same point each lap they are better spectator events than road races.
Not all that amazing, really. These post-Tour criteriums are more in the nature of exhibitions. That is, they aren't UCI "sanctioned" races; that is the results don't count in the UCI's rider ranking system. Top riders, particularly popular performers from the recently-completely Tour, are paid up-front appearance money to take part.
Typically, the final outcome of these races is arranged in advance, as these criteriums are often held in conjunction with town festivals and the like, and the locals have come out to see the top stars shine. In this regard, the result of such races rarely disappoints. Not that there's anything "unethical" about these "fixed" races. Again, these are exhibitions, professional cycling's foray into "sports entertainment," as it were.
I recall reading about the results of one post-Tour criterium from the early-1990s, in which the then-popular Italian climber Claudio Chiappucci "won" in a field sprint in front of some of the top sprinters in the professional peleton. It was rather amusing.
Do you use Google? I didn't know what a criterium was either, but went to Google, entered "bicyle racing criterium" and, voila!
Just a further indication of what I was saying previously: these post-Tour criterium are more-or-less "exhibition" races, with the results often determined in advance.
what is amazing is how our athletes are actually getting stronger, faster, bigger as they age....wow....
I mean, Barry Bonds is unbelievable....
*sigh*
the last crit i did i went down at 40 mph cracked 2 ribs and chipped my elboes.
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