Pay-Pal lawsuit Settlement

PayPal ^ | 28 Jul 2004 | PayPal

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California Edwards Clone Shyster Lawyer Scum Blackmail PayPal for $3.3 MILLION!!!

If you suffered a loss, you get $50 - and they wonder why lawyers are considered the lowest form of scum?

IF YOU OPENED A PAYPAL ACCOUNT BETWEEN OCTOBER 1999 AND JANUARY 2004, YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO A PAYMENT FROM A CLASS ACTION SETTLEMENT.


PLEASE READ THIS NOTICE CAREFULLY.


UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
SAN JOSE DIVISION

In re PayPal litigation
Case No. CV-02-01227-JF (PVT)

NOTICE OF PENDENCY OF CLASS ACTION AND PROPOSED SETTLEMENT


1. WHY DID I GET THIS NOTICE?
You have been sent this Notice because the records of PayPal, Inc. indicate you are a current or former PayPal account holder. This means you may be eligible to receive a payment from the proposed class action settlement in the lawsuit In re PayPal Litigation, Case No. 02 1227 JF PVT, pending in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in San Jose. This Notice provides a summary of the terms of the proposed settlement. It also explains the lawsuit, your legal rights under the settlement, what benefits are available to you under the settlement, and how to get them.


2. WHAT IS A CLASS ACTION?
In a class action, one or more people, called Class Representatives (in this case Roberta Toher and Jeffrey Resnick), sue on behalf of people who have similar claims. All of these people are members of the Class. One court resolves the issues for all Class Members, except for those who exclude themselves from the Class. United States District Judge Jeremy Fogel is in charge of this class action.


3. WHAT IS THIS LAWSUIT ABOUT?
In early 2002, Plaintiffs Roberta Toher and Jeffrey Resnick filed separate lawsuits against PayPal, Inc. These two cases were later consolidated into one lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, San Jose Division, entitled In re PayPal Litigation, Case No. CV 02 01227-JF (PVT). The lawsuit alleges that PayPal violated the federal Electronic Fund Transfer Act ("EFTA"), 15 U.S.C. §§ 1693 et seq., including provisions requiring PayPal to supply customers with information about dispute resolution procedures and to follow certain procedures when investigating complaints of unauthorized or incorrect electronic fund transfers. For example, the lawsuit claims that PayPal did not provide account statements in the manner required by the EFTA. The lawsuit further alleges that PayPal has placed inappropriate restrictions or other limits on customers' accounts and engaged in other improper practices. Based on these practices, the lawsuit asserts claims under California state law for conversion, money had and received, negligence, and violations of consumer protection statutes.

PayPal does not believe that it did anything wrong. In fact, PayPal disputes that the EFTA, originally passed in 1978, applies to its business. PayPal denies any and all liability for the claims alleged in the lawsuit. The Court did not decide in favor of the Plaintiffs or PayPal. Instead, beginning in the fall of 2003, the parties began a series of settlement negotiation sessions mediated by United States Magistrate Judge Edward Infante. Eventually, in November 2003, both sides agreed to a settlement in principle. By settling their claims, both parties avoided the uncertainty and cost of a trial. The settlement provides money and other benefits to the Class. On June 11, 2004, the parties entered into a formal, written Settlement Agreement, which is on file with the Court and available on the Internet at https://www.paypal.com/settlement/. By entering into the Settlement Agreement, PayPal is not admitting any wrongdoing. PayPal continues to believe that it did not do anything wrong. The Representative Plaintiffs and the attorneys appointed by the Court to represent the Class believe that the settlement is fair to Class Members. By this notice, the Court is not expressing any view on the merits of the lawsuit.


4. HOW DO I KNOW IF I AM PART OF THE SETTLEMENT?
On July 12, 2004, Judge Fogel entered an order granting preliminary approval of the settlement and certifying the following class for purposes of the settlement: All Persons who opened a PayPal account during the period from October 1, 1999 through January 31, 2004. Excluded from the class are any judicial officer to whom the lawsuit is assigned; PayPal and any of its affiliates; any current or former employee, officer, or director of PayPal; anyone who resides in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Finland, France, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, The Netherlands, or United Kingdom; and all persons who timely and validly request exclusion from the class pursuant to this notice.

Thus, if you opened a PayPal account between October 1, 1999 and January 31, 2004, and are not one of the excluded persons listed above, you are a member of the class.


5. WHO REPRESENTS ME IN THIS CASE?
To represent the class, the Court has appointed Plaintiffs Roberta Toher and Jeffrey Resnick as Representative Plaintiffs and their counsel of record as Class Counsel. The Court has also appointed the following attorneys and law firms as Co-Lead Counsel:

A. J. De Bartolomeo
Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo LLP
601 California Street, Suite 1400
San Francisco, California 94108

Robert C. Finkel
Wolf Popper LLP
845 Third Avenue
New York, New York 10022

6. WHAT DOES THE SETTLEMENT PROVIDE?

A. Injunctive Relief

The settlement requires that PayPal consent to the entry of an order, called an injunction, that mandates various changes to PayPal's business practices. PayPal has already implemented these changes. The injunction includes PayPal's agreement to comply with certain notice and error resolution procedures of the EFTA, and to follow certain procedures for limiting accounts and responding to and returning funds to customers whose accounts have been limited. A copy of this injunction can be found as Exhibit D to the Settlement Agreement, entitled "Form of Injunctive Order."

B. Monetary Relief
Under the settlement, PayPal will pay $9.25 million into a settlement fund, to be held in an interest-bearing account. The fund will be used (1) to make payments to class members who submit valid claims before the claims deadline; (2) to pay certain costs of giving notice to the Class and of settlement administration, as approved by the Court; and (3) to pay attorneys' fees and expenses to Class Counsel in the amount awarded by the Court. Class Counsel have proposed that, after deduction of notice and administrative costs and Class Counsel's attorneys' fees and expenses, the balance of the fund ("Net Settlement Fund") be applied in accordance with a written plan of allocation. (The following explanation is qualified in its entirety by reference to the Plan of Allocation attached to the Settlement Agreement as Exhibit C, a copy of which is on file with the Court and available on the Internet at https://www.paypal.com/settlement/.)

1. Certain Definitions
Certain capitalized words are used in this part of the Notice to describe the way in which the Net Settlement Fund will be allocated. These capitalized words have the following meanings:

(a) "Released Persons" means PayPal and its past and present partners, affiliates, predecessors, successors, assigns, parents, subsidiaries, officers, directors, attorneys, and employees.

(b) "Fund Claimants" are class members who submit timely, valid claims in accordance with the procedures described in this notice.

(c) "Dispute Resolution Claimants" are Fund Claimants who contend that, prior to February 1, 2004, they:

(i) experienced or reported to PayPal an unauthorized or incorrect electronic transfer to or from their PayPal account including, without limitation, electronic transfers initiated by (a) the Fund Claimant; (b) PayPal in connection with, among other things, chargebacks, refunds, buyer complaints, PayPal's Seller Protection Policy, Buyer Complaint Process and/or Buyer Protection Policy; or (c) any third party;

(ii) had access to their PayPal account improperly, incorrectly or erroneously limited or restricted, in whole or in part;

(iii) made a request for information in connection with PayPal's restriction or limitation of the Fund Claimant's PayPal account or regarding an incorrect or unauthorized electronic transfer to which PayPal did not respond at all or did not respond to the Fund Claimant's satisfaction.

(d) "Statutory Damage Fund Claimants" are all Fund Claimants who are not Dispute Resolution Claimants.

2. Statutory Damage Fund Claimants
The plan of allocation designates $1 million of the Net Settlement Fund to a "Statutory Damage Fund," to be distributed equally among all Fund Claimants who are not Dispute Resolution Claimants. This means that if you are a member of the Class and do not fall within the definition of a "Dispute Resolution Claimant," as set out above, you can make a claim for a payment from the Statutory Damage Fund. The Statutory Damage Fund provides compensation for potential statutory damages under the Electronic Fund Transfer Act ("EFTA"), 15 U.S.C. §§ 1693 et seq. Statutory damages under the EFTA are limited by law to no more than $500,000 for any class of individuals claiming "the same failure to comply." Plaintiffs' counsel contended in the litigation and for purposes of settlement that PayPal was potentially liable for multiple failures to comply, a position PayPal vigorously opposed.

The Statutory Damage Fund Claim Form requires you to provide certain identifying information and sign a statement under penalty of perjury authenticating your claim, which may be subject to verification by PayPal's records. To make a claim for payment from this fund, please complete and submit the Statutory Damage Fund Claim Form available on the Internet at https://www.paypal.com/settlement/ in accordance with the instructions on the form.

3. Dispute Resolution Claimants
The balance of the Net Settlement Fund will be allocated for distribution to Dispute Resolution Claimants. If you fall within the definition of a "Dispute Resolution Claimant," as set out above, you have the right to make a Dispute Resolution Claim. You can choose to submit either the Short Claim Form or the Long Claim Form available on the Internet at https://www.paypal.com/settlement/. If the Court awards attorneys' fees and costs in the amount requested, Class Counsel estimate that there will be approximately $4.3 million to pay the claims of Dispute Resolution Claimants. Half of the money allocated to Dispute Resolution Claimants will be allocated to pay Short Form Claimants (the "Short Form Fund"). The other half will be allocated to pay Long Form Claimants (the "Long Form Fund").

a. Short Form Claimants
The Short Claim Form requires you to provide certain identifying information and sign a statement under penalty of perjury, which may be verified using PayPal's records, that you experienced an unauthorized or incorrect electronic transfer or an account limitation or denial of access to your account. If you make a timely, valid claim using the Short Claim Form, you will receive a payment of $50, unless the amount needed to pay all of the Short Form claims exceeds the Short Form Fund. In that case, the Short Form Fund will be divided equally among all Short Form Claimants. If the amount needed to pay all of the Short Form claims is less than the amount of the Short Form Fund, the money left over will be added to the Long Form Fund.

b. Long Form Claimants
The Long Claim Form requires you to provide certain identifying information; give the details of the account restriction(s) and/or unauthorized electronic fund transfer(s) you experienced; state the amount of your claim, and sign a statement, under penalty of perjury, which may be subject to verification by PayPal's records, that you actually suffered the claimed damages. You should also provide any documentation you have that will support your claim, as explained in more detail on the Long Form.

If you make a timely, valid claim using the Long Claim Form, an independent, court-approved claims administrator will evaluate your claim and determine the amount you should receive. In making this determination, the claims administrator will take into account the amount of damages you claim; the nature of your complaint; the quality of the supporting documentation you provide; your recoverable damages; the probability that you would be successful on your complaint; and such other factors that the claims administrator considers relevant. If the amount needed to pay all of the Long Form claims is less than the amount of the Long Form Fund, the money left over will be added to the Short Form Fund.

c. Balance after payment of Long Form and Short Form Claimants
If there are sufficient funds to pay all Short Form and Long Form Claimants in full in accordance with the written plan of allocation, any remaining funds will be divided equally among all Dispute Resolution Claimants to supplement their recoveries.

7. HOW DO I MAKE A CLAIM AND GET A PAYMENT?
To make a claim for payment, please complete one of the claim forms (Statutory Damage Claim Form, Short Claim Form, or Long Claim Form) available on the Internet at https://www.paypal.com/settlement/. To make a valid claim, you will need to (1) fill out the claim form electronically and (2) print the signature page of your claim form, sign it and return it by mail to the address provided on the claim form. You must complete the claims procedure no later than October 23, 2004. Your payment will be transferred electronically to your PayPal account. If you do not have a current, unrestricted PayPal account or you indicate on the claim form that you prefer to receive a check, payment will be made in the form of a check, sent by first class mail to the address provided on the claim form. If you are paid by check, a $1.00 charge will be deducted from your payment to cover the cost of issuing and mailing the check. The claims administrator will not issue checks for less than $1.00. Such amounts will instead be reallocated to those claimants who are entitled to receive distributions.


8. WHAT AM I GIVING UP IF I PARTICIPATE IN THE SETTLEMENT?
If you do not exclude yourself from the class and the settlement is granted final approval, the judgment entered upon approval of the settlement will dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice, and will release any and all claims, demands, rights, liabilities, and causes of action of every nature and description whatsoever, known or unknown, matured or unmatured, at law or in equity, existing under federal or state law, that were or could have been asserted in the Litigation against the Released Persons, including without limitation, claims under the Electronic Fund Transfer Act, California Business and Professions Code §§ 17200 et seq.; the California Consumers Legal Remedies Act, Cal. Civ. Code §§ 1750 et seq.; and for PayPal's alleged conversion, breach of the User Agreement or other contract, money had and received, unjust enrichment, and negligence under California law or any other state or federal law arising out of, among other things, PayPal's restriction or limitation of accounts; PayPal's dispute resolution policies, practices and procedures; PayPal's debit of accounts following the receipt of chargebacks, buyer complaints, reports of unauthorized access or in connection with its Seller Protection Policy, Buyer Complaint Process or Buyer Protection Policy; PayPal's alleged conversion of funds; and PayPal's compliance with the Electronic Fund Transfer Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1693 et seq., or any similar legislation arising under the laws of any state. You will be permanently barred from bringing any such claims that arose prior to February 1, 2004. With regard to accounts that were limited prior to February 1, 2004, however, you will not be releasing claims to recover any balance that remained in the account 180 days after the account was initially limited.

In summary, if you do not exclude yourself, you will not be able to sue, continue to sue, or be part of another lawsuit against PayPal relating to the legal issues in this case. You will be bound by all proceedings, orders, and judgments entered in connection with the settlement, whether favorable or unfavorable, and will be represented by the Representative Plaintiffs and Class Counsel for purposes of the settlement. If you do not exclude yourself from the class, and the settlement is granted final approval, your claims against PayPal and its affiliates will be released as described above. If you are a class member, you may, if you wish, appear in this lawsuit through your own attorney at your own expense. You need not do so to participate in the settlement, however.


9. WHAT IF I WANT TO EXCLUDE MYSELF (OPT-OUT) FROM THE SETTLEMENT?
If you do not want to remain a member of the class and participate in the settlement, then you must mail or deliver (email is not considered adequate), such that it is RECEIVED on or before September 7, 2004, (1) an original written, signed request for exclusion to Co-Lead Counsel at the following address:

Co Lead Counsel:
PayPal Class Action Settlement
A. J. De Bartolomeo
Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo LLP
601 California Street, Suite 1400
San Francisco, California 94108

and (2) a copy of the written signed request to PayPal's counsel at the following address:

PayPal's counsel:
PayPal Class Action Settlement
Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP
One Market
Spear Street Tower
San Francisco, California 94105

This request for exclusion must contain your name and address; be signed by you; and include the reference "In re PayPal Litigation, Case No. CV-02-1227-JF (PVT)."

If you exclude yourself from the class, you will not participate in the settlement and cannot receive any payment from the settlement. Your claims will not be released.


10. HOW WILL THE LAWYERS FOR THE CLASS BE PAID?
>From the inception of the litigation in early 2002 to the present, Class Counsel have not received any payment for their services in prosecuting the case, nor have they been reimbursed for any out-of-pocket expenses. If the Court approves the proposed settlement, Class Counsel will make a motion to the Court for an award of attorneys' fees of up to $3,332,500 and reimbursement of expenses of up to $135,000, to be paid from the $9.25 million settlement fund. Class Counsel will also seek reimbursement from the settlement fund on behalf of certain of the named plaintiffs in the litigation for reimbursement of their expenses related to their service as class representatives in the litigation, in an aggregate amount not to exceed $15,000. The motion will be heard at the settlement hearing described below in Section 11.

Class Counsel's motion for an award of attorneys' fees and reimbursement of expenses is based on various factors that include the benefits obtained for the class through litigation. These benefits include the $9.25 million cash settlement and PayPal's agreement to the injunctive relief requirements. In addition, certain changes to PayPal's business practices are attributable in part to this litigation, including PayPal's decision to undertake to return to its customers approximately $5.1 million in those accounts to which access was limited for 180 days or more; modifications to PayPal's arbitration provision in its User Agreement and its replacement with a clause that limits PayPal's ability to compel arbitration where the total amount of the award sought is $10,000 or greater; and various other changes in PayPal's business practices during the pendency of the litigation.

Class Counsel submitted their proposed request for attorneys' fees to the Magistrate Judge who had previously presided over discovery and settlement discussions. Class Counsel's request for attorneys' fees is equal to the amount recommended by the Magistrate Judge.


11. WHEN AND HOW WILL THE COURT DECIDE WHETHER TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT?
The Court will hold a hearing on September 24, 2004, at 9:00 a.m., before the Honorable Jeremy Fogel, United States District Judge, United States District Court for the Northern District of California, Courtroom 3, 5th Floor, 280 South First Street, San Jose, California 95113. The purpose of the hearing will be to determine (a) whether the proposed settlement should be approved as fair, reasonable, and adequate; (b) whether the application by Class Counsel for an award of attorneys' fees and expenses should be granted; and (c) whether the lawsuit and class members' claims should be dismissed with prejudice pursuant to the settlement. The Court reserves the right to adjourn or continue the hearing without further notice to the class.

You may attend the hearing if you wish, but are not required to do so to participate in the settlement.

If the settlement is not approved by the Court, the lawsuit will proceed. If there are further actions taken in the case that affect your rights, you will receive notice as determined by the Court.


12. CAN I COMMENT ON THE SETTLEMENT?
If you decide to remain in the class, and you wish to comment in support of or in opposition to the settlement or Class Counsel's motion for attorneys' fees and expenses, you may do so by mailing or delivering your written (non-email) comments, such that they are RECEIVED on or before September 3, 2004, as follows: (1) the original must be sent to the Court at the following address:

Clerk of the Court
United States District Court for the Northern District of California
280 South First Street
San Jose, California 95113

and (2) copies must be sent to Co Lead Counsel and PayPal's counsel at the addresses listed in Section 9, above.

Your written comments must contain your name and address; be signed by you; and include the reference In re PayPal Litigation, Case No. CV-02-1227-JF (PVT). If you wish to appear and present your comments orally at the hearing, your written comments must contain a notice that you intend to appear and be heard, a statement of the position you intend to present at the hearing, and any supporting arguments.

If you do not comply with the foregoing procedures and deadlines for submitting written comments or appearing at the hearing, you will not be entitled to be heard at the hearing; contest or appeal from approval of the settlement or any award of attorneys' fees or expenses; or contest or appeal from any other orders or judgments of the Court entered in connection with the settlement.


13. HOW CAN I GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT?
You can get more information by writing Plaintiffs' Co-Lead Counsel electronically or by first class mail at:

paypalsettlement@settlement4onlinepayments.com

Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo LLP
601 California Street, Suite 1400
San Francisco, California 94108

Wolf Popper LLP
845 Third Avenue
New York, NY 10022

This notice is a summary and does not describe all details of the settlement. For full details of the matters discussed in this notice, you may wish to review the Settlement Agreement dated June 11, 2004 and on file with the Court or visit https://www.paypal.com/settlement/. Complete copies of the Settlement Agreement and all other pleadings and papers filed in the lawsuit are also available for inspection and copying during regular business hours, at the Office of the Clerk of the Court, United States District Court for the Northern District of California, 280 South First Street, San Jose, California 95113.



PLEASE DO NOT TELEPHONE THE COURT REGARDING THIS NOTICE.

DATED: July 12, 2004



BY ORDER OF THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

[steplock]

The Total payout is $9.25 million of which the lawyer scum cash-in with over 1/3 of it at $3.3 MILLION!

And you wonder WHY American companies are moving overseas?

Thank You - john edwards and john kerry!

[governsleastgovernsbest]

I received one of these email notifications. I will not seek to join the suits. I don't want to encourage bottom-feeders like John Edwards.

[Leroy S. Mort]

If the Court approves the proposed settlement, Class Counsel will make a motion to the Court for an award of attorneys' fees of up to $3,332,500 and reimbursement of expenses of up to $135,000, to be paid from the $9.25 million settlement fund.

[ScottFromSpokane]

I wonder why I didn't get one. I joined in November 2003.

[Feiny]

I got this email today also & promptly deleted it.
I hate class action lawsuits.

[steplock]

Click on the link in the article to get the form - it must be downloaded, printed, signed and mailed back.

If you do NOT want to participate, I would really suggest that you contact PayPal and see if they have DONATE BACK! link. The money will go to the lawyers anyway.

[ScottFromSpokane]

Oh, I'm not going to take the money. Nothing PayPal did harmed me in any way. I'm just wondering why I didn't get the email.

[Centurion2000]

bump

[Maceman]

I think that no class action lawsuit should be allowed to proceed unless the actual class members "plaintiffs" stand to gain at least $5000 each in damages.

A law like that would really eliminate a lot of this nonsense. I have been told I am a class member in plenty of class action lawsuits where my remuneration ended up being something like 25 cents in coupons, while the lawyers walk away with millions in legal fees.

[cyborg]

I didn't get an item once. PayPal paid me $2.50 and I just assumed the person was a dirtbag. I got this note in my email but I hate class action suits.

[HungarianGypsy]

I also got the email. Have never had a problem with Paypal and have actually liked using it. See no reason to be part of this lawsuit.

[lowbridge]

If the Court approves the proposed settlement, Class Counsel will make a motion to the Court for an award of attorneys' fees of up to $3,332,500 and reimbursement of expenses of up to $135,000, to be paid from the $9.25 million settlement fund. Class Counsel will also seek reimbursement from the settlement fund on behalf of certain of the named plaintiffs in the litigation for reimbursement of their expenses related to their service as class representatives in the litigation, in an aggregate amount not to exceed $15,000.

So the people who file a claim get fifty bucks a piece, and the lawyers get a few million dollars. Nice.

[baltodog]

I used PayPal to pay for my Lucite siding, while we were buying baby formula after having a cup of coffee at McDonald's in my Pinto.

I'd wonder if I was entitled to anything, but I'm too busy chipping lead paint before I remove my vermiculite insulation from my attic so I can get to my asbestos-covered heating ducts.

I could probably be rich. Oh, well, gotta' go...taking the family out to Denny's tonight.

[NonValueAdded]

Yeah, I noticed that. Are lawyers not permitted to charge contingency-style loaded fees on class action suits? Time to register a protest with the court.

[CobaltBlue]

If you opt out of the settlement, hire your own lawyer, and go after them yourself, what is the problem? Nobody said you had to take the $50. But what are your damages?

[steplock]

In the last month, I have received at least 10 different mass class action lawsuits mostly dealing with pharmaceutical stocks - the speculation type for new drugs (they are gambles) but lawyers are making Hundreds of Millions of Dollars suing the research firms out of business! I haven't turned in any hoping that the companies can keep some of their money for more research!

I don't know if that helps anything or not.

You said, "that no class action lawsuit should be allowed to proceed unless the actual class members "plaintiffs" stand to gain at least $5000 each in damages."

I hope you meant that they actually suffered "damage" due to some intentional scam - and not normal market ups/downs or like in my case, failed gambles.

I just received my Halliburton lawsuit papers today - I glanced at them and saw a VERY large blackmail amount to the lawyers ----

Halliburton has NEVER done anything against me - nor have I lost money with their stocks - but according to these shyster scumbags, I DESERVE compensation - just like WELFARE!

[dhuffman@awod.com]

PayPal is anti-2A - as they have a right to be. I have a right to enjoy this defeat for them just as I eagerly anticipate Ahh, Oh helL's come-uppance.

[Montfort]

And, in cases where there might have been real liability exposure, the company gets to limit its exposure to lawsuits covered by the class action (where they did opt out).

I heard of one case where the company basically called for the tort lawyers to sue it. Think of the potential to buy off the lawyers and shaft the people who might have good cases but not realize it yet.

[steplock]

PayPal is anti-2A ???

[DB]

I've been a user of PayPal for many years always as a buyer. Over the years PayPal has done some pretty bad things to auction sellers, making them guilty until they prove their innocence if they can.

While I choose not to participate in this class action lawsuit, many have been harmed by PayPal's less than honest mode of business over the years.

[haywoodwebb]

That's really funny!

[ClaireSolt]

I don't know if this is the same thing, but my Pay Pal account was suddenly blocked around the turn iof the year.
When I looked at it there were two entries for $1600. I called First Data and the customer service rep said it was probably money laundering done in Indonesia. They were supposed to send me an affadavit, but never have, and My account is still blocked. It is annoying, but it had not occured to me to file a class action suit over it.

[ApplegateRanch]

I chose not to participate in this. No harm, no foul, so no collecting.

Pay-Pal, has been a good service provider to me, paid me good interest; and has never harmed me in any way. By not participating, it does not help Pay-Pal; it just means a minutely larger slice for each of the other 'eligible' "Statutory Damage Fund Participants".

OTOH, I DID particpate in one other class action: My "payout" was a 66% reduction in price for all the individual electric zone-heaters I had to tear out of my walls and replace.

[steplock]

You have a legal claim - use their LONG FORM for at least the full amount plus any losses incurred beyond what they locked.

In some sates, you can go for TREBLE damages!

My gripe is not in cases like yours - these lawyers are picking every company in the USA, one at a time, knowing that nobody is perfect - using the radical judicial activist for their muscle, they force the companies to open everything and begin to tera them apart publicly (even if there isn't anything there!) until the companies SETTLE - it's cheaper - the the scumbag lawyers slime over to the next company and do the same there.

[GregoryFul]

The lawsuit was for people who had been harmed by PayPal policies regarding retracted payment, or improper chargebacks.

[sonofatpatcher2]

BUMP

[ScottFromSpokane]

Yeah, but I'm still a member of the class: "All Persons who opened a PayPal account during the period from October 1, 1999 through January 31, 2004." I believe I'd be a Statutory Damage Fund Claimant" if I participated.

But it really doesn't matter. I'm just slightly curious why I didn't get the email.

[Cacique]

bttfl

[steplock]

I haven't seen "Cacique" in a long time - memories from waaayy back of "el Cacique Hatuey" in Cuba. Actually a name of a beer then, but it was named for one of the great Caribe Chiefs.

[Lunatic Fringe]

So I get $3.50 and the lawyers get $3.3 mil.

I love America.

[longtermmemmory]

coupon litigation.

On the one hand LEGITIMATE cases like this can only be grouped together. (for example, the industry playing games with screen size vs actual display)

On the other hand, nit pick suits which are by design an attorney fee suit.

(of course the looser pays system would have the 1/3 comming out of the defendant.)

BTW it may not be a third, in most states the percentages go down after 1 million.

[Lockbar]

I agree with Huffman. Pay-Pal hates guns and gun purchases. If you guys feel guilty about the $50, then donate it to the NRA.

[Bonaparte]

Steplock, what on earth does the name of a beer and some Indian chief have to do with news of national importance? Is this what Free Republic was created for, to engage in small talk on matters of no national importance? ;-)

[kovena]

I still have not been able to get through the mumble jumble legal talk, but Pay Pal has taken money from me claiming the retailer sent it as payment and not refund. I joined them back in 2001. I lost approx 200 dollars so far not to including the overdrawn amounts that should have not happened had the refund gone back to the bank. I kept a lot of Pay Pal stuff in folder..wonder if its all there. Any advice? So what do I do? And here it is Aug 29 with deadline of Sept 4 to reply. Sheesh...

[ScottFromSpokane]

I don't know what to tell you. I haven't really been following the lawsuit story, and I've had no problems with PayPal.

[AndyJackson]

Thank You - john edwards and john kerry!

For every slime-ball class-action litigator there is at least one slime-ball businessman who caused the problem. Pay Pal has engaged in a long history of deceptive and dishonest practices against small businesses. They have a long history of collecting payments from clients and then holding onto them, even months later after any possible claims by the client have passed.

We have never used Pay Pal but I know a lot of folks who have to their own business detriment.

[BJungNan]

And you wonder WHY American companies are moving overseas?

You have that exactly correct!

[BJungNan]

Oh, I'm not going to take the money. Nothing PayPal did harmed me in any way. I'm just wondering why I didn't get the email.

Can somone put in simple terms how it is that someone was actually harmed by PayPal? What would be a circumstance in which someone would feel they are owed compensation? Thanks.

[Hank Rearden]

I received one of these email notifications. I will not seek to join the suits. I don't want to encourage bottom-feeders like John Edwards.

I'm not inclined to join either, but if we don't - do the scumsucking shysters get more money? What happens to the leftovers?

Maybe there's a way we could claim the 50 bucks and give it back to PayPal?

[BooBoo1000]

I received my notice in the mail, and pitched it. I don't want to help any " Class Action Lawyer" and PayPal never hurt me, in fact I enjoyed using them..

[jimt]

www.paypalsucks.com

www.paypalwarning.com

I quit using them when they started insisting on electronic access to my checking account rather than using one of the four credit cards I had listed with them. As I don't have a debit card, and allow NO ONE, including my employer, any electronic access, that ended our business relationship.

[BJungNan]

I still have not been able to get through the mumble jumble legal talk, but Pay Pal has taken money from me claiming the retailer sent it as payment and not refund. I joined them back in 2001. I lost approx 200 dollars so far not to including the overdrawn amounts that should have not happened had the refund gone back to the bank. I kept a lot of Pay Pal stuff in folder..wonder if its all there. Any advice? So what do I do? And here it is Aug 29 with deadline of Sept 4 to reply. Sheesh...

Call PayPal directly. That is what I did. I am not sure if you situation is the same as mine was. I had a customer who received merchandise from me notify their card company to reverse the charges. That put the transaction into a dispute mode and the funds (the customer payment) were taken back out of my account. It took five months to get it resolved.

And here is the funny part.

I also contacted the customer. They had notified their bank less than a month after they filed the charge back that everything was okay and that I should be paid. And, the bank soon thereafter recharged my customer for the payment. So, the customer had paid and I had not received the funds. I found all this out when I wrote to the customer to ask them if they could contact their bank. That is when they told me they already had (good customer, just a miscommunication between us).

Did PayPal have my funds? Was the customer's bank holding the funds? I don't know. But I am sure if I had not called PayPal - and written to the customer - I would never had seen the money. PayPal said we had lost the appeal with the customer's card company.

Again, my advise, start calling and writing to all the parties involved. PayPal says they can not tell you then name of the customer's bank, but the customer will tell you. Then call the bank also if necessary. It gets to be a nice little triangle that is hard to sort through. Hope this helps.

[BJungNan]

Here is who they need to go after.

Seller on ebay with thousands of complaints

[kovena]

Darn this puter took my post and Whoosh..gone...I was saying, accumatively I lost near to 200 dollars because the refunder sent it to Pay Pal as a payment instead of refund and Pay Pal says...sorry..you can't get that back! Sheesh..I Live on 574 a month and they steal from me too?? But the rigamarole I have to go through to get anything more than 50 dollars in not too clear to me. And here it is 6 days from deadline and I get email about this. So another 30 bucks to get it there in time, after I figure what I have to do and collect all the transactions I saved in folder with Pay Pal. I really got a Great Laugh from your post though. It was so funny! Thanks...I needed that!

[kovena]

sorry for the Repeat....thought I lost my post LOL!