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ANOTHER MUSLIM SNIPER? (Michelle Malkin )
michellemalkin.com ^ | Jul 28, 2004 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 07/28/2004 10:59:09 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING

ANOTHER MUSLIM SNIPER? By Michelle Malkin · July 28, 2004 05:05 PM

"Michael Wagner" is a black Muslim convert who was pulled over by an Iowa State Trooper for not wearing a seatbelt. No doubt the professional grievance-mongers are rushing to provide their pro bono services to an innocent man wrongfully profiled by racist cops. Never mind what was in his car:

A 9mm pistol Three bulletproof vests

Hundreds of rounds of ammunition

A flight simulator and a bag of flight manuals dating to 2001

A 5-foot telescope hooked to camera equipment

Night-vision goggles and a night-vision rifle scope found in a hollowed-out computer

Books written in Arabic, including the Koran, along with hundreds of pages printed from the Internet on the Iraq war and terrorism

Just as Customs agent Diana Dean pulled over Ahmed Ressam for acting nervously and conducted a vehicle search that saved untold lives by averting the Los Angeles millenium bomb plot, Iowa State Trooper Kenneth Haas decided to search Wagner's vehicle during a routine traffic stop because Wagner repeatedly gave a false name, couldn't produce an identification card, and showed signs of nervousness.

Wagner reportedly told a federal agent about "a man in San Diego who he said wanted him to shoot at trolleys there...Wagner also told the agent "he knew of activities and people involved in al-Qaida and Taliban."

Better keep an eye on this story.


TOPICS: Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: blackmuslimconvert; blackmuslims; california; iowa; michaelwagner; mikewagner; sandiego; shooter; sniper; trolleycars; trolleys; wagner

1 posted on 07/28/2004 10:59:11 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Holy jihad, Batman!

I suspect we're soon going to see/hear a lot more about the sleepers among us. And there will be many we do not hear of...


2 posted on 07/28/2004 11:05:19 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (My digital brownshirt is at the ethnic cleansers.)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I heard this story from a cop calling in Chicago morning radio. He was definitely discouraged over "homeland security" because they didn't get the report almost 2wks later.... I searched FR and didn't get any hit. Well, well...
3 posted on 07/28/2004 11:15:47 PM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

INTREP - TROP ALERT


4 posted on 07/28/2004 11:16:20 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Chaplain, US Army, retired)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Just another isolated incident...move along.

I wonder what GW's chances are of being reelected if a terror attack is traced to a Mexico border crossing or a Matricula card?

We are so stupid.


5 posted on 07/28/2004 11:17:26 PM PDT by dinok
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Kinda off topic but.... what i find interesting is the lack of response by Black Muslims to the Sudan genocide?

Can you imagine the fury if the Janjaweed militia were predominately white?


6 posted on 07/28/2004 11:21:41 PM PDT by I-spy-guy
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To: endthematrix
"I heard this story from a cop calling in Chicago morning radio. He was definitely discouraged over "homeland security" because they didn't get the report almost 2wks later...."

BooFrigginHoo! I'd suspect HSD wanted to follow up his information before they let every other supercop know about it...and possibly blow any further investigation into the Man's links.

7 posted on 07/28/2004 11:29:11 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: zip; BOBWADE

ping


8 posted on 07/28/2004 11:34:53 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: I-spy-guy

Black Muslims to the Sudan genocide?

It would appear that they are not driven by ideology, but sheer love of victimhood and thuggery. No surprise really..they've been that way since the 60s.

Notice how long it took the Black Caucus of the Senate to make a statement...it was about 15 years overdue. I guess they had more pressing matters, like reparations and what next they can blame on whitey. They finally came up with a beauty...whitey is more responsible for global warming than they are. LOL No joke. Of course, reparations will no doubt follow.


9 posted on 07/28/2004 11:48:08 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: VaBthang4
I agree. That was the first I'd heard of the story. I see that FR had some archives (IOWA) covering it. The original AP story doesn't cover the good tid bits at all. The story is getting creepier every moment, but doesn't surprise me. Hey we are at war with the creeps! Let's kill them...or face the alternative.
10 posted on 07/29/2004 12:06:14 AM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: I-spy-guy

You might be surpised to know that there is a response. It goes something like this: Slavery practiced by Muslims is really not slavery. It's not brutal and degrading like the slavery practiced by Thomas Jeffreson and other whites.


11 posted on 07/29/2004 2:31:49 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: All

So I take it this guy is a born and breed American.


12 posted on 07/29/2004 2:36:52 AM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: Terp

Yes,he's black.


13 posted on 07/29/2004 2:39:54 AM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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To: Terp
I guess this article was clear that Wagner was black and I didn't need to add that.

The first articles I read about this left me with the impression that he was a "lily white".

14 posted on 07/29/2004 2:44:12 AM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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To: Free Trapper

I knew he was American. I only asked because another poster seemed to be getting off track and started talking about the open border issue and not the fact this is another home grown terrorist who's converted to the religion of love. Personally I think the fact that Islam has taken hold in America is more of a danger than any open border! The enemy is now within and have U.S. Passports.


15 posted on 07/29/2004 2:55:01 AM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: Terp; Free Trapper

On the way home from the post office last night we passed by the local islamic center. Mrs SLB and I both looked at each other and said the same thing: "wonder what they are planning in there?" There were probably 12 to 15 cars in the parking lot, I never saw them have any worship services during the week before, only on Saturday and sometimes on Sunday. Maybe a potluck dinner? - I doubt it.


16 posted on 07/29/2004 3:03:45 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Terp
Yes,we have plenty of our own home-grown terrorists,I'm sure.

Sometimes I wonder what percentage of Americans that have converted are in agreement with and support of the terrorists.

17 posted on 07/29/2004 3:08:59 AM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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To: Free Trapper
Radical Islam is a culture of death.

Say it loud, say it often, and say it with authority.

Say it with the knowledge that it is true and that too few people understand this simple fact.

But don't let me tell you.

Read it in their own words right here: Culture of Death article.

Here's an excerpt:

...

Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri said in an interview; "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom. There is a great difference between he who loves the hereafter and he who loves this world. The Muslim loves death and strives for martyrdom."

Hezbollah's Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah revealed in an interview after the recent prisoner swap between Israel and his group: "We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Tunisian intellectual Al-Afif Al-Akhdar says; "Why do expressions of tolerance, moderation, rationalism, compromise, and negotiation horrify us Muslims, but when we hear fervent cries for vengeance, we all dance the war dance? Why do other people love life, while we love death and violence, slaughter and suicide, and even call it heroism and martyrdom?"

The love of death is, to the Western mind, the most incomprehensible thing about our enemy.

The president made reference to the concept in a recent speech in which he said: "On a tape claiming responsibility for the atrocities in Madrid, a man is heard to say, 'We choose death, while you choose life.'... It is a mindset that rejoices in suicide, incites murder, and celebrates every death we mourn. And we who stand on the other side of the line must be equally clear and certain of our convictions."

President Bush summarized what it will take to defeat an enemy who loves death, even if it fell on mainly deaf ears. "We who stand on the other side of the line must be equally clear and certain of our convictions."

...

Well, Freepers, are YOU clear?

If so, make the case to all you know. The lives of you and your loved ones DEPEND on it.

18 posted on 07/29/2004 3:09:39 AM PDT by Stallone (Make love not war! ~ Lynndie England)
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To: Free Trapper
impression that he was a "lily white".

A "lily white" is not a white person, but a person who has no record or ties to a particular terrorist org. Timothy McVeigh, for example, would have been a "lily white" not because he was white, but because he had no known ties to AQ. Hence, it would have been easier for him to carry out the plan, and AQ would not have been suspected in the aftermath.

They are apparently trying to recruit people of all colors without connections to AQ or even to Islam to carry out their activitiies. However, they haven't had much luck, it seems - this guy was clearly a Muslim and was cast in the DC Sniper/Portland 7 mold, and it's no surprise that he (and the woman travelling with him, another Black Muslim, whose last name was Maguire) was planning something like this.

I hope they're watching the "Nation of Islam" (Black Muslims) very carefully, but I doubt that it's possible without having Jesse show up and scream about racism.

19 posted on 07/29/2004 4:37:50 AM PDT by livius
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To: dinok
I wonder what GW's chances are of being reelected if a terror attack is traced to a Mexico border crossing or a Matricula card?

We are so stupid

Huh, john muhammed and now "wagner", hmm, two native born Americans, and lets not forget johnny jihad and the college kid from washington state. We also have jose padilla, but he is Puerto Rican and an American citizen.

Not a Mexican in the group, but you ignore the facts just to inject your personal predjuidice.

20 posted on 07/29/2004 4:43:24 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Stallone

If they love Death so much, how come they get so upset when we grease a few hundred of them?


21 posted on 07/29/2004 4:49:27 AM PDT by Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
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To: Vinnie_Vidi_Vici

The ones that are upset wish they were killed too.

Do your part to make dreams come true.


22 posted on 07/29/2004 4:54:12 AM PDT by Stallone (We who stand on the other side of the line must be equally clear and certain of our convictions. ~ W)
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To: Stallone

Very well stated my friend: My screed for your review...


TERRORISM SOLUTION

Islam is NOT a religion – it is a CULT OF HATE.

Islam is an organization dominated by criminally minded thug-killer males who kill those who disagree with them or will not convert to their ideology. These men enslave and brutally abuse women and indoctrinate children with violent and hateful beliefs. They are intent on world domination by any means at their disposal, including bloody acts of terrorism and violent invasion. These demented men are under the delusion that they will receive 72 virgins as a reward for killing Jews and Christians.

Several steps are necessary to save America from the pending violence and tyranny of islam:

1) Congress to declare islam is NOT a religion, but instead a cult-of-hate functioning as an organized crime and terrorist association seeking to kill infidels (i.e.. Jews and Christians) and to impose islamic law on the world;
2) Congress to ban the practice of islam in the US, state legislatures to follow with similar state laws;
3) President to declare martial law (in response to certain-to-come terrorist attacks in US -- which was founded on Judeo/Christian principles) and suspend the constitution to enact these measures, in order to save this country;
4) Muslim schools shall be closed, because muslim schools teach children the violent tenants of islam (with no regard to reading, writing or computing) and such teaching amounts to child abuse,
5) Muslim parents, because of their beliefs, deemed unqualified to raise children (see TIME Magazine story, July 26, 2004, for further examples of muslim fathers/males who order their sons/brothers to kill sisters or mothers if they suspect their infidelity,) hence, child welfare agencies to remove children from muslim homes and place them in Jewish and Christian foster homes;
6) Adult muslims get 30 days to renounce islam and convert to a peaceful religion, or be immediately deported to a muslim country. If they renounce islam and stay, they shall enter a cult de-programming therapy program for 3-5 years. Those in this country illegally shall be deported immediately;
7) Immediately halt immigration from all islamic countries (except for persecuted Christians and Jews.) Deny immigration or entry to any muslim individual.
8) (removed by author so moderator doesn't ban me.)


23 posted on 07/29/2004 5:04:40 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Imagine

Your freeper name should be Dreamer not Imagine.


24 posted on 07/29/2004 5:30:18 AM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: crusty codger

Yes, I know my ideas may be considered way out. Some of the steps may not even square up with the constitution. Nonetheless, they are, if implimented, a solution to the issue of terrorism. Floating around the FR is a statement I find intriguing: "The constitution is not a suicide pact" which I think leads one to the next logical level of thinking. If certain parts of the constitution keep us from maintaing national security, they must be addressed. In some areas, I even think that the constitution needs to be changed -- for example, voting should be denied to those on social welfare support programs -- but, that's not directly related to national security unless one believes the democrats are a security risk (as I do.) Our founders could not have concieved of such threats to our country as we face from uncontrolled immigration and the threat from islam. We must take dramatic steps to protect our country.


25 posted on 07/29/2004 6:21:11 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Imagine
We must take dramatic steps to protect our country.

That I'm afraid is not going to happen till we get hit really, really bad!

26 posted on 07/29/2004 6:55:49 AM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

"wrongfully profiled by racist cops." >>> Jack-booted thugs


27 posted on 07/29/2004 6:57:47 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Dane
"Not a Mexican in the group, but you ignore the facts just to inject your personal predjuidice."


How about this border crosser? Facts not your preconceived judgment or opinion ...(prejudice) of someone else's supposed prejudice...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1180328/posts?page=201,2

....Ahmed reportedly later confessed to investigators that she entered the country illegally by crossing the Rio Grande River..... .....It was revealed in court Tuesday that she was on a watch list and had entered the U.S. possibly as many as 250 times.

By the way it is spelled prejudice.....

28 posted on 07/29/2004 7:29:41 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Dane

"Not a Mexican in the group, but you ignore the facts just to inject your personal predjuidice."

Uh, maybe you saw something written that I didn't, I thought his point was an unprotected border, be it south or north, is a perfect entry point for terrorists. Just saying Mexican border, doesn't mean that it would have to be a Mexican, anymore than, Canadian border, has to mean a Candian. As far as a Matricula card, how hard are they to obtain? I would imagine, not hard at all.


29 posted on 07/29/2004 7:36:04 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (Conservative-says it all.)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

WELL IF WE GOT RID OF ALL THE GUNS THIS TYPE OF THING COULDN"T HAPPEN!


30 posted on 07/29/2004 7:39:02 AM PDT by longfellow
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To: Dane

We cannot be too careful and better watch all the Mexicans before you know it the Jalepeno hot sauce on the tables of the Mexican resturaunts will be replaced by Habaneros. This would be the greatest internal terrorism ever waged.


31 posted on 07/29/2004 7:42:47 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: rolling_stone

Of the 250 admitted illegal entries how many came through Mexico? Can you believe anything she said? If she said she came in from the South I would immediately assume she actually entered from the North.


32 posted on 07/29/2004 7:45:59 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Of the 250 admitted illegal entries how many came through Mexico? Can you believe anything she said? If she said she came in from the South I would immediately assume she actually entered from the North.



Oh I guess since she was apprehended in McAllen, Texas (near the US-Mexico Border) that I could believe she crossed at least once..., that makes more logical sense to me than that she lied about where she entered the US...it really doesn't matter which border she crossed to me, north or south, both are sieves....my point being terrorists can enter this country & stay because of its poor immigration enforcement
33 posted on 07/29/2004 7:51:58 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Great job, Michelle! Keep us informed-youre the best..


34 posted on 07/29/2004 7:54:37 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Dane
"you ignore the facts just to inject your personal prejudice."

Prejudice toward what? People braking the law by crossing the border illegally?

By the way...I am a naturalized citizen who came here legally. My wife and mother of my two children is a Mexican American from Texas. I look darker than most of the 9/11 Terrorists. So what kind of prejudice are you referring to?

Illegal border entry is an insult to us legal immigrants who obay the rules of this great country. it took my family a year to go through the process and get security cleared back in 1969/70.
35 posted on 07/29/2004 9:42:13 AM PDT by dinok
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To: dinok
Uh what I was saying and backing up with facts is that there hasn't been a connection of terrorists going through Mexico, that I know of.

Most came here legally during the late 90's and also tried the Canadian border. Also you seem to have ignored the home grown johnny jihads and decided to focus all your concerns towards the southern border and considering the facts, that is uninformed, IMO.

36 posted on 07/29/2004 9:51:58 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: rolling_stone

My view is that the Northern border is much more of a threat.

Unless we can get cooperation from RAT run cities there is little the INS can do about illegals.


37 posted on 07/29/2004 10:06:43 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

My view is that the Northern border is much more of a threat.

Unless we can get cooperation from RAT run cities there is little the INS can do about illegals.



IMO the first step is for the President of the United States to make a speech saying enough is enough and that he will enforce our laws. Without that those down the line from enforcers to illegal crossers think that the US wants them here and will do little more than a token effort to secure the borders. Talk tough to Vicente Fox, don't talk of amnesty and guest worker programs until this terrorist threat is eliminated. That's where the govenment needs to start, by making the decision that enough is enough and our security is worth more than "cheap" labor.




38 posted on 07/29/2004 10:38:57 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

I want to see the Feds lean on these RATrun cities and tell them flat out "No cooperation no more federal funds." If they can do it to force states to comply with seat belt laws and speed limits they can do it wrt National Security issues.


39 posted on 07/29/2004 12:14:39 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: livius
OK

I was under the impression that "lily whites" would be white rather than "swarthy" or "black" because either of the latter would be more likely to be profiled as Muslim or Black Muslim.

I know I've been surprised over the years at the number of Black Muslims I've run into and no longer jump to the conclusion that a black person is "probably" a Christian,as I would in my younger days.

40 posted on 07/29/2004 2:17:23 PM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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To: dinok

"We are so stupid."

I disagree. It is not the people, like you and me. It is the political hierarchy...both sides of the aisle!


41 posted on 07/29/2004 2:22:32 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: Dane

"there hasn't been a connection of terrorists going through Mexico, that I know of."

There has been evidence enough that Arabs of all types have crossed the border from Mexico to the US. I don't want to wait until Dallas is attacked by them and then say...OK...now we have proof. But then maybe they will only come where you live...


42 posted on 07/29/2004 11:38:05 PM PDT by dinok
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