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Bush Demolished Gore in Debates
NY Times ^ | 07.30.04 | Editorial

Posted on 07/30/2004 12:10:28 PM PDT by Labyrinthos

Its Official. Nearly four years after the fact, the NY Slimes has finally admitted what we have known all along -- President Bush "demolished" Al Gore in the 2000 presidential debates.

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KEYWORDS: 2000; algore; bush
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To: Sir Gawain

Well that sucks. I wonder whether someone did some after the fact editing of the editorial. Its definately in the hard copy. Should I ask the moderator to pull?


21 posted on 07/30/2004 12:46:58 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: TonyInOhio; Catphish

Increasing size of gov't isn't the solution to terrorism, nor is nation-building. Do you think Reagan's reaction to 9-11 would've been the immediate creation of more federal gov't? (I know, I know - Bush is no Reagan conservative. But still..)

Besides, 3 years later and $40 billion worth of new gov't in the form of Homeland Security and 90+% of cargo in our ports still isn't being inspected. Why Bush has felt it necessary to wait for the 9-11 Commission's recommendations to be released before taking action is puzzling in the post-9/11 era. I mean, it's been 3 years since 9-11. Shouldn't some of these things already be in place? Some damn "intelligence Czar" isn't going to put a halt to terror, esp. as long as the Mexican borders are wide-ass open.

We can rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan all we want. As long as the madrasas in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere continue to operate, terrorism seeds will continue to be planted.

Also, where's my Social Security reform? If it's not gonna happen with the GOP controlling the Legislative and Executive branches, it will NEVER happen.

Note: None of this is an endorsement of that assclown Kerry. I simply want more from the current President that I voted for.


22 posted on 07/30/2004 12:47:46 PM PDT by Blzbba (John Kerry - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: Merry

" I remember them saying that about Gore."


Gore is a masterDebater.


23 posted on 07/30/2004 12:48:20 PM PDT by Blzbba (John Kerry - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: Labyrinthos

I wouldn't worry about it.


24 posted on 07/30/2004 12:54:55 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Labyrinthos
"Well that sucks. I wonder whether someone did some after the fact editing of the editorial. Its definately in the hard copy. Should I ask the moderator to pull?"

No, dont ask the modreator to pull it. I find it very interesting that there's a difference between the print version and the net version. Another NYTimes scandal perhaps?

25 posted on 07/30/2004 12:58:48 PM PDT by Oblongata
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To: Labyrinthos
"Its Official. Nearly four years after the fact, the NY Slimes has finally admitted what we have known all along -- President Bush "demolished" Al Gore in the 2000 presidential debates."

Damned skippy he did. As some have said, Kerry is Gore without the charisma. The President is destined to make Kerry look like a certified Ass in the coming debates.
26 posted on 07/30/2004 1:01:37 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let me take yet another opportunity to tell the "moderates" to shove it ....... then twist it.)
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To: Jaysun

I am not so sure the President will have a huge edge in the debates. That is not necessarily his strong suit.

The President is at his best before a small audience. There he is able to reach each individual member of the audience. His speaking carries away the listener, who never loses interest because he always feels spoken to directly. He may speak about a random theme with an expertise that astonishes the specialists, or in speaking about everyday matters suddenly raise them to universal significance.

On such occasions the President can be more intimate and precise than a debate permits. He can go into the heart of things with irrefutable logic. Only one who has heard him in such a setting can understand his full brilliance as a speaker.


27 posted on 07/30/2004 1:09:28 PM PDT by jojodamofo
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To: RealPiedPiper
No, dont ask the modreator to pull it. I find it very interesting that there's a difference between the print version and the net version. Another NYTimes scandal perhaps?

Wow, I just looked at the on-line version using my co-workers log-on and it is not even close to what's in the printed hard copy. Someone is probably on the unemployment line this very moment for allowing anything even remotely complimentary to President Bush to appear on the editorial page.

28 posted on 07/30/2004 1:15:26 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Merry

Well, formats vary, but presidential debates don't bear the slightest resemblance to college debate.

And I'd hesitate to call what Presidential candidates do these days "debating." More like "soundbite opportunities" or whatever.


29 posted on 07/30/2004 1:16:43 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Labyrinthos

I remember the debates. There were three weren't there? As I recall, the first one was a toss-up. The second was a Bush win and in the third one, Bush won very decisively. I also remember Gore changing his image, makeup and approach in each debate...and I remember Gore reeling off an astonishing number of obviously checkable and weird lies in each debate.


30 posted on 07/30/2004 1:24:08 PM PDT by Drawsing (It is not honorable to seek one's own honor.....Proverbs.)
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To: jojodamofo
The President is at his best before a small audience. There he is able to reach each individual member of the audience.

I agree with that. My parents live just miles from Crawford so I've been fortunate enough to witness him in such a setting. Nevertheless, I still think he'll run all over Kerry.
31 posted on 07/30/2004 1:25:52 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let me take yet another opportunity to tell the "moderates" to shove it ....... then twist it.)
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To: Drawsing

I recall Bush winning the second and decisively winning the third, although you would have never known that after reading the NY Slimes at the time of the debates, which is what makes today's admission so astonishing.


32 posted on 07/30/2004 1:29:13 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
Here's the first paragraph. It says nothing about Bush demolishing Gore in the debates.
Speakers at the Democratic convention were told to stay positive, but when John Kerry delivered his acceptance speech last night, his best moments came on the attack. His depiction of a Bush administration that misled the public into war did a fine job of rousing the faithful.

33 posted on 07/30/2004 1:33:25 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: FormerACLUmember
Gore showed obvious signs during the debates of his well-polished, often hidden, flaming psychosis.

I hope Kerry duplicates Gore's 'charge' during the upcoming debates.

I 'bout died laughing at Bush's reaction when Gore did it.

34 posted on 07/30/2004 1:34:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: You Dirty Rats

I tend to agree.

Bush was much better prepared than I thought he'd be.

But Gore lost people with his eye-rolling, sighs and the "I'm talking down to you, George" tone in his voice.


35 posted on 07/30/2004 1:36:32 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Drawsing
LOCKBOX
36 posted on 07/30/2004 1:38:10 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Labyrinthos

I also didn't find anything in Lexis/Nexis for "Gore, Bush, debates, demolished."


37 posted on 07/30/2004 1:39:05 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Labyrinthos
Its Official. Nearly four years after the fact, the NY Slimes has finally admitted what we have known all along -- President Bush "demolished" Al Gore in the 2000 presidential debates.

But..but...Bush is a moron, right? How can this be?

That can only mean Gore is an idiot?

Say it ain't so!

38 posted on 07/30/2004 1:39:53 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (It's OVER. They have all left Boston. Back to Hell, Hollywood, and Moscow, where they belong.)
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To: Blzbba
Gore is a masterDebater.

And a cunning linguist.

39 posted on 07/30/2004 1:40:17 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Labyrinthos
John Kerry,

"...But I Have Stayed At A Holiday Inn Express!"

40 posted on 07/30/2004 1:44:28 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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