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Pre-Incan Brewery Unearthed in Peru's Andes (Chicha)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 7/30/04 | Reuters - Miami

Posted on 07/30/2004 2:59:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

MIAMI (Reuters) - U.S. researchers have unearthed what they say may be the oldest known brewery in the Andes, a pre-Incan plant at least 1,000 years old that could produce drinks for hundreds of people at one sitting.

The University of Florida said on Thursday that its archeologists and researchers from the Field Museum in Chicago found the brewery at Cerro Baul, a mountaintop religious center of the Wari empire that ruled what is now Peru hundreds of years before the Incas.

At least 20 ceramic, 10- to 15-gallon (38- to 57-litre) vats were found at the site some 8,000 feet up in the mountains of southern Peru.

"You get the idea that this is massive production, not just your basic household making beer to consume by itself," Susan deFrance, an assistant professor of anthropology at the University of Florida, said in a statement.

Patrick Ryan Williams, assistant curator at the Field Museum, said the site was remarkable for its size. Small-scale brewing is known to have been done in the Andes for thousands of years, he said by telephone from Peru.

The Wari civilization thrived from about A.D. 700 to 1000, conquering all of what is modern Peru before swiftly and mysteriously declining.

The brewery is thought to have produced "chicha," an alcoholic drink derived at the time mainly from a berry of the molle pepper plant. Modern chicha is made from corn.

Last year University of Florida archeologists discovered what they think are halls for "ritual intoxication" at Cerro Baul, where Wari noblemen apparently feasted and drank.

Mike Moseley, associate chairman of anthropology at the university, said the halls "become a place where politics are negotiated and economic decisions are made."

Williams said each nobleman would have consumed up to 2.6 gallons (10 litres) of chicha per ceremony.

The site appears to have been destroyed in a closing rite. The Wari burned the structures, threw their mugs into the embers and laid down a half-dozen necklaces of semiprecious stones as they left, said Moseley


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KEYWORDS: agriculture; andes; animalhusbandry; brewery; cerrobaul; chicha; dietandcuisine; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; huntergatherers; peru; preincan; unearthed; wari
..20 ceramic, 10- to 15-gallon (38- to 57-litre) vats were found at the site some 8,000 feet up in the mountains of southern Peru

ceramic "kegs" :-]

1 posted on 07/30/2004 2:59:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
The "Coors" of their day.

The Wari civilization thrived from about A.D. 700 to 1000, conquering all of what is modern Peru before swiftly and mysteriously declining.

Ya don't think maybe it was the chicha?

2 posted on 07/30/2004 3:01:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder what their jingle would be? lol


3 posted on 07/30/2004 3:02:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: NormsRevenge

Chicha is nasty. It is made by peasant women who chew up corn which they spit into a vat where it is left to ferment.


4 posted on 07/30/2004 3:05:08 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: NormsRevenge

The site appears to have been destroyed in a closing rite. The Wari burned the structures, threw their mugs into the embers and laid down a half-dozen necklaces of semiprecious stones as they left, said Moseley.

Them Pre-Incans knew how to throw a kegger. Prolly make Animal House look tame. What it must have been like! Kick back, make a sacrifice or two and drink some good old chicha. It doesn't get much better than that.


5 posted on 07/30/2004 3:05:11 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: blam

PING


6 posted on 07/30/2004 3:05:51 PM PDT by uglybiker (Those are not classified documents inadvertently shoved down my pants. I'm happy to see you!)
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To: NormsRevenge

"This Bud's Peru!"


7 posted on 07/30/2004 3:06:36 PM PDT by quark
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To: BipolarBob; NormsRevenge; ChefKeith; WestCoastGal
The site appears to have been destroyed in a closing rite. The Wari burned the structures, threw their mugs into the embers and laid down a half-dozen necklaces of semiprecious stones as they left, said Moseley.

We always did that at the end of the keggers at my college. I'm sure the tradition carries on to this day.

8 posted on 07/30/2004 3:08:59 PM PDT by glock rocks (where's my tagline?)
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To: quark

"The King of Incan Beers"


9 posted on 07/30/2004 3:09:38 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: FreedomSurge

are you saying it would be fine to drink the fermented spit of a wealthy woman?


10 posted on 07/30/2004 3:09:54 PM PDT by phxaz
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To: quark

good one!


11 posted on 07/30/2004 3:10:26 PM PDT by phxaz
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To: NormsRevenge
"said the halls "become a place where politics are negotiated and economic decisions are made." "

And we sit here and say bad things about Teddy Kennedy. Look at the great traditions he is carrying on!
12 posted on 07/30/2004 3:12:29 PM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer
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To: NormsRevenge

13 posted on 07/30/2004 3:13:32 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http:\\www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: NormsRevenge
Last year University of Florida archeologists
discovered what they think are halls for
"ritual intoxication" at Cerro Baul, where Wari
noblemen apparently feasted and drank.

How far is the Kennedy Compound from U of F?
Who is funding this research?

14 posted on 07/30/2004 3:13:39 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dang, those guys really WERE civilized. Maybe that's what Cortez was actually looking for!!


15 posted on 07/30/2004 3:17:16 PM PDT by Spok
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To: NormsRevenge; blam
"hiccup"
16 posted on 07/30/2004 3:18:31 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (In memory of T/Sgt. Secundino "Dean" Baldonado, Jarales, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: quark

lol.. Oh Yeah!


17 posted on 07/30/2004 3:19:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: NormsRevenge
Williams said each nobleman would have consumed up to 2.6 gallons (10 litres) of chicha per ceremony.

They must have had kidneys like a plow horse.

18 posted on 07/30/2004 3:19:29 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: phxaz

maybe this is what TahRayZaa drinks.. it mind explain some of her facial expressions. ;-)


19 posted on 07/30/2004 3:20:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: FreedomSurge
That is true.
While driving from Cochabamba to the Champari Bene,
I saw small flags flying from cane poles.
I asked my driver if that showed they had fish bait.
HE said "no, it is chicha.
They also cover the crocks with cheese cloth, this
keeps out most of the flies and other vermin.
20 posted on 07/30/2004 3:21:28 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Liberals are like catfish ( all mouth and no brains )(bottom feeders))
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might .. :-\

Im drinking a Foster's myself ;-)


21 posted on 07/30/2004 3:21:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: NormsRevenge

What! No "Hold ma beer!" alert?


22 posted on 07/30/2004 3:21:48 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: BipolarBob
the wari swiftly and mysteriously declined


perhaps the debate was:


TASTES GREAT !! vrs LESS KILLING !!


and in fact it tasted great.

23 posted on 07/30/2004 3:21:48 PM PDT by phxaz
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To: phxaz
are you saying it would be fine to drink the fermented spit of a wealthy woman?

Only if you're running for President.

24 posted on 07/30/2004 3:23:50 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: NormsRevenge
Mmmmm! Incan spittle beer! Tastes great--less filling!
25 posted on 07/30/2004 3:24:22 PM PDT by chapin2500
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To: NormsRevenge
The brewery is thought to have produced "chicha," an alcoholic drink derived at the time mainly from a berry of the molle pepper plant. Modern chicha is made from corn.

That would burn in more ways (and places) than one.
26 posted on 07/30/2004 3:25:14 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: NormsRevenge

Bet it wasn't lite beer either.


27 posted on 07/30/2004 3:27:17 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: NormsRevenge; glock rocks; ChefKeith
"Williams said each nobleman would have consumed up to 2.6 gallons (10 litres) of chicha per ceremony."

Geez we're getting wimpy these days, I don't think anyone can drink that much. ??

And, to top it off Tony Stewart the sometimes tough guy just said after qualifying he wanted Krispy Kreme doughnuts to sponsor him!!

28 posted on 07/30/2004 3:31:39 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (aka Coco~~~~~~>Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: chapin2500

lol...

Incan spittle beer! Better the 2nd Time!


29 posted on 07/30/2004 3:33:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: WestCoastGal

lol... I saw him on the tube but missed that.

2.6 gallons in one sitting .. those dude were embalmed before the ceremony was over.. bombed ain't even close to it


30 posted on 07/30/2004 3:36:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "The terrorists will be defeated, there can be no other option" - Colin Powell)
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To: FreedomSurge

"Chicha is nasty. It is made by peasant women who chew up corn which they spit into a vat where it is left to ferment."

If that was the light lager version, a dark stout must have required some choice hockers to make. :-)


31 posted on 07/30/2004 3:40:48 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Former fetus.)
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To: MarkeyD

32 posted on 07/30/2004 3:45:48 PM PDT by glock rocks (... where's my beer?)
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To: NormsRevenge

That is about a case of beer, right? I wonder what the alcohol content was? HMMMM...chicha: the beer that made Cuzco famous.


33 posted on 07/30/2004 3:52:10 PM PDT by doodad
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To: NormsRevenge
archeologists discovered what they think are halls for "ritual intoxication"

Any excuse for a party goes back a long, long way.


34 posted on 07/30/2004 3:53:42 PM PDT by kt56
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To: WestCoastGal
PARTY ON DUDE'S!
35 posted on 07/30/2004 3:54:17 PM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: Spok
Cortez tangled with the Aztecs. Francisco Pizarro conquered the Incas. I guess it was pulqe for Cortez and cerveza for Pizarro!
36 posted on 07/30/2004 4:02:44 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: phxaz

Actually, the women of a certain part of Bolivia, were known to make the best chica. Could never find out why though.


37 posted on 07/30/2004 5:00:18 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
some versions of it may involve spit... the one here in Chile is made from grapes in big vats, no spit involved ;)

however, as you say, spit or no spit, it is still quite nasty. very easy to get drunk on and the hangover is wicked, the worse i've ever experienced...

38 posted on 07/30/2004 5:09:43 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: quark
This Bud's Peru!"

ROFLMAO Sweet!

39 posted on 07/30/2004 5:22:01 PM PDT by vikzilla
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